Official Speculation Thread (Pt XV, Mods Close)

magicman123 · Post #41 » by **magicman123** » Thu Mar 8, 2012 4:44 am

arkknight1988 wrote:i think klay thompson should start at sg next year for the warriors. him and curry can really grow together

yep they need to trade ellis, start the team around curry, lee, and thompson

magicman123 · Post #42 » by **magicman123** » Thu Mar 8, 2012 4:45 am

blue and white wrote:What do you guys think of lou williams? sixers have stop playing him for some reason and i think his style of game would be perfect for us as our back up pg. hes fast shoots the 3 and most importantly not duhon. I need help finding a good trade but i think he could easily be had and would make a world of difference for our second unit. maybe something like this and a second round pick going to philly http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=88r2zvk

i hope thats a joke

NW · Post #43 » by NW » Thu Mar 8, 2012 4:48 am

arkknight1988 wrote:i think klay thompson should start at sg next year for the warriors. him and curry can really grow together

It's definitely possible - if you get something good for Ellis. Like I said, I don't think anyone in the organization is against trading Ellis, but not for a role player package of talent that you could get similar in free agency and small trades. Giving up a core starting player, get one in a position of need back.

blue and white · Post #44 » by **blue and white** » Thu Mar 8, 2012 4:50 am

magicman123 wrote:
blue and white wrote:What do you guys think of lou williams? sixers have stop playing him for some reason and i think his style of game would be perfect for us as our back up pg. hes fast shoots the 3 and most importantly not duhon. I need help finding a good trade but i think he could easily be had and would make a world of difference for our second unit. maybe something like this and a second round pick going to philly http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=88r2zvk

i hope thats a joke

no

magicman123 · Post #45 » by **magicman123** » Thu Mar 8, 2012 4:50 am

NW wrote:
arkknight1988 wrote:i think klay thompson should start at sg next year for the warriors. him and curry can really grow together

It's definitely possible - if you get something good for Ellis. Like I said, I don't think anyone in the organization is against trading Ellis, but not for a role player package of talent that you could get similar in free agency and small trades. Giving up a core starting player, get one in a position of need back.

anderson and lee front court, curry and thompson back court

curry
jrich
thompson
anderson
lee

maybe you want jrich and play thompson at the 3?

The Real Dalic · Post #46 » by **The Real Dalic** » Thu Mar 8, 2012 4:52 am

NW wrote:
arkknight1988 wrote:i think klay thompson should start at sg next year for the warriors. him and curry can really grow together

It's definitely possible - if you get something good for Ellis. Like I said, I don't think anyone in the organization is against trading Ellis, but not for a role player package of talent that you could get similar in free agency and small trades. Giving up a core starting player, get one in a position of need back.

I know your owner is not willing to rebuild yet, but, the problem I have with this is there's no point to bring in a star player in the position the Warriors are in.

NW · Post #47 » by NW » Thu Mar 8, 2012 4:56 am

magicman123 wrote:
NW wrote:
arkknight1988 wrote:i think klay thompson should start at sg next year for the warriors. him and curry can really grow together

It's definitely possible - if you get something good for Ellis. Like I said, I don't think anyone in the organization is against trading Ellis, but not for a role player package of talent that you could get similar in free agency and small trades. Giving up a core starting player, get one in a position of need back.

anderson and lee front court, curry and thompson back court

curry
jrich
thompson
anderson
lee

maybe you want jrich and play thompson at the 3?

That frontcourt is a defensive quagmire

magicman123 · Post #48 » by **magicman123** » Thu Mar 8, 2012 4:59 am

NW wrote:
That frontcourt is a defensive quagmire

you dont play defense anyways so, you got two of the best rebounders in the league, the best big man shooter in the league, they're both white, can score in bunches, 2 white guys, that could be a playoff team

NW · Post #49 » by NW » Thu Mar 8, 2012 5:00 am

The Real Dalic wrote:
NW wrote:
arkknight1988 wrote:i think klay thompson should start at sg next year for the warriors. him and curry can really grow together

It's definitely possible - if you get something good for Ellis. Like I said, I don't think anyone in the organization is against trading Ellis, but not for a role player package of talent that you could get similar in free agency and small trades. Giving up a core starting player, get one in a position of need back.

I know your owner is not willing to rebuild yet, but, the problem I have with this is there's no point to bring in a star player in the position the Warriors are in.

West is not as strong as it once was. You got OKC and Memphis and the Clips (barring Sterling screwing it up) but there's room for the Warriors to make some noise in the West with this core and improvement at the 5 and 3. I think that's the reason for the hesitation to trade Ellis.

NW · Post #50 » by NW » Thu Mar 8, 2012 5:01 am

magicman123 wrote:
NW wrote:
That frontcourt is a defensive quagmire

you dont play defense anyways so, you got two of the best rebounders in the league, the best big man shooter in the league, they're both white, can score in bunches, 2 white guys, that could be a playoff team

lol. Defense is better this year actually. As much as you can improve without a defensive anchor at center.

arkknight1988 · Post #51 » by **arkknight1988** » Thu Mar 8, 2012 5:02 am

gasol is going off on the warriors

magicman123 · Post #52 » by **magicman123** » Thu Mar 8, 2012 5:05 am

NW wrote:lol. Defense is better this year actually. As much as you can improve without a defensive anchor at center.

foreal though, as a warriors fan what kind of value do you think ellis has? or what would you consider a respectable trade? doesnt have to be with the magic

arkknight1988 · Post #53 » by **arkknight1988** » Thu Mar 8, 2012 5:07 am

magicman123 wrote:
NW wrote:lol. Defense is better this year actually. As much as you can improve without a defensive anchor at center.

foreal though, as a warriors fan what kind of value do you think ellis has? or what would you consider a respectable trade? doesnt have to be with the magic

he has an unrealistic value of ellis. (deng iggy gay bogut)

NW · Post #54 » by NW » Thu Mar 8, 2012 5:15 am

arkknight1988 wrote:
magicman123 wrote:
NW wrote:lol. Defense is better this year actually. As much as you can improve without a defensive anchor at center.

foreal though, as a warriors fan what kind of value do you think ellis has? or what would you consider a respectable trade? doesnt have to be with the magic

he has an unrealistic value of ellis. (deng iggy gay bogut)

Not my view. Management's. Those are the guys who have been in discussions for Ellis. Was close on Igudola in the summer.

Definitely see that we're not getting those guys, but why settle for less? Not making the team better in the long-term imo.

Put in Magic fans shoes. If I tell you that you're not going to get what you expect to for Howard, should you just settle for less than that? Or hold on to him?

arkknight1988 wrote:gasol is going off on the warriors

Hence the need for an upgrade at the 5

magicman123 · Post #55 » by **magicman123** » Thu Mar 8, 2012 5:17 am

would you take any package from orlando (except dwight)

RickB-Orlando · Post #56 » by **RickB-Orlando** » Thu Mar 8, 2012 5:17 am

thelead wrote:I've accepted that we're going to do nothing, let Dwight walk, and then overpay the next non allstar. I should start a new hashtag #OTISWINNING

While those things may be true, it won't be Otis making those decisions. He has no power anymore.

NW · Post #57 » by NW » Thu Mar 8, 2012 5:22 am

magicman123 wrote:would you take any package from orlando (except dwight)

Doubt it. You're best pieces pretty much match what GS already has. Anderson is similar to Lee. The Warriors are loaded at the SG spot so guys like JRich and Reddick aren't needed.

Best thing of value you guys got are draft picks - and that's contingent on Howard leaving which defeats the purpose of making a trade.

arkknight1988 · Post #58 » by **arkknight1988** » Thu Mar 8, 2012 5:24 am

david lee looks so bad. doesn't help that hes playing center

EasternMagic · Post #59 » by **EasternMagic** » Thu Mar 8, 2012 5:43 am

I keep trying to make a mega blow up the world trade on espn trade checker involving us, GS, ATl, and NOH.. I think it's too awesome for the machine to process.

EasternMagic · Post #60 » by **EasternMagic** » Thu Mar 8, 2012 5:45 am

NW wrote:
magicman123 wrote:would you take any package from orlando (except dwight)

Doubt it. You're best pieces pretty much match what GS already has. Anderson is similar to Lee. The Warriors are loaded at the SG spot so guys like JRich and Reddick aren't needed.

Best thing of value you guys got are draft picks - and that's contingent on Howard leaving which defeats the purpose of making a trade.

duuuude... why don't you guys just hand over Monta for Daniel Orton and Turkoglu.. you will LOVE them!!!!!!!