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Re: Game Thread Wiz vs LAL 7PM 3/7 

Post#181 » by dobrojim » Thu Mar 8, 2012 5:13 am

TGW wrote:
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Book was a great but he's still ideally a backup PF IMO.


Just curious...why do you feel that Book is backup? Is it his lack of height?


This is probably a bad time to draw conclusions but Book has been
playing pretty well lately. I still feel we should draft BPA but if you
had 2-3 guys who you had as a near wash in terms of who you like
best, I'd tend to prioritize the SF and SG positions over PF.
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Post#182 » by dobrojim » Thu Mar 8, 2012 5:15 am

one other thing - folks were all over Mack for his +/- after the GS game.
I haven't looked at the boxscore but I bet he was pretty solid in that
statistic this game. He's a solid pick in the 2nd round and an adequate
backup.
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Re: Game Thread Wiz vs LAL 7PM 3/7 

Post#183 » by dobrojim » Thu Mar 8, 2012 5:17 am

fishercob wrote:Vesely's best game in a couple weeks! ;-)


get out with the negative vibes wouldja

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Re: Game Thread Wiz vs LAL 7PM 3/7 

Post#184 » by Dat2U » Thu Mar 8, 2012 6:24 am

TGW wrote:
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Book was a great but he's still ideally a backup PF IMO.


Just curious...why do you feel that Book is backup? Is it his lack of height?


Book is just a solid player. He can be mistake prone defensively. Slow rotations on D at times. Or he even get over matched by bigger players. His effort has been pretty consistent but the results aren't necessarily consistent. His success tends to be based on matchups and he'll really struggle at times. Realistically we need elite or near level elite production from either the PF or C to truly compete. Usually the easiest way to achieve that is with a highly productive PF. Booker is performing well as many starting PFs in the league on certain nights but he certainly would be considered on the low end of that group overall. We'll simply need more from the position in the future to truly contend.
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Post#185 » by queridiculo » Thu Mar 8, 2012 7:03 am

nuposse04 wrote:We need a SF in the worst possible way, although with mason and Young in at the same time, they did pretty adequate. Take a chance on marvin williams maybe? Just something for the future. Give seraphin some minutes, dude looked really good against a quality front line. At the very least he's got to be a more cerebral center than mcgee. If Randy is the coach for this team, he'll have them bring this type of fire against every team. Showing up against the best teams in the league is nice...but contenders show up against the Bucks, nets, Jazz and other teams as well. We're not there....yet.


I would still love to see the Wizards make a play for Marvin Williams for precisely that reason.

It's too bad that the Wizards don't really have much in the way of assets to offer. We'd likely need a 3rd team to either give the Hawks salary cap relief or some more depth at the PG and C position. Perhaps even a mid to low 1st rounder.
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Post#186 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Thu Mar 8, 2012 2:26 pm

On another note, Chris Miller makes me want to vomit every time they show his face. I know I can't be the only one who can't stand his no-talent, arrogant self. Dude makes me angry every single interview he does!
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Post#187 » by hands11 » Thu Mar 8, 2012 3:04 pm

Amazing win.

Specially consider Wall only scored 4 pts and

Nick and Crawford were 1-15 from 3 and

the refs were insane with the fouls 24 to 16 for LA and LA shot 37 FTs vs 19 for the Wiz
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Post#188 » by dandridge 10 » Thu Mar 8, 2012 4:02 pm

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dandridge 10 wrote: I think Nick Young's comment on the post game show exemplified why him and some other on this team have to go. When Glenn Consor asked him to explain why the Wizards laid an egg against the Golden State Warriors but played hard against the Lakers, Nick's reply was something like, "well the Lakers are a good team and the building was full, so you want to go out there and put in a great effort." I can envision McGee giving the same type of answer.

I think you are reading too much into this. What exactly is he supposed to say? Bear in mind that he's not the most articulate fellow in the world.

Basically, he was saying that the Wizards really wanted to give a strong effort for all the fans who came to watch. There's nothing wrong with that.


I dont know, how about a response like, "I can't explain why we didn't come out with energy against the Warriors...we need to learn how to come out and play hard against every team like we did against the Lakers." That is essentially the answer that both Mason and Booker gave to the same question.

I don't think I am reading too much into his answer. Young has a history of playing well against teams like the Lakers and disappearing against other teams. I think Young is a lot like McGee. I think its more important to him to have hype and highlights than to actually get wins. I'd rather have more guys like Booker, Mack, Seraphin, ect, that may not have as much god given talent or physical attributes as as Young and McGEE, but approach the game with more of a competitive, workman-like attitude.
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Re: Game Thread Wiz vs LAL 7PM 3/7 

Post#189 » by nate33 » Thu Mar 8, 2012 4:29 pm

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dandridge 10 wrote: I think Nick Young's comment on the post game show exemplified why him and some other on this team have to go. When Glenn Consor asked him to explain why the Wizards laid an egg against the Golden State Warriors but played hard against the Lakers, Nick's reply was something like, "well the Lakers are a good team and the building was full, so you want to go out there and put in a great effort." I can envision McGee giving the same type of answer.

I think you are reading too much into this. What exactly is he supposed to say? Bear in mind that he's not the most articulate fellow in the world.

Basically, he was saying that the Wizards really wanted to give a strong effort for all the fans who came to watch. There's nothing wrong with that.


I dont know, how about a response like, "I can't explain why we didn't come out with energy against the Warriors...we need to learn how to come out and play hard against every team like we did against the Lakers." That is essentially the answer that both Mason and Booker gave to the same question.

I don't think I am reading too much into his answer. Young has a history of playing well against teams like the Lakers and disappearing against other teams. I think Young is a lot like McGee. I think its more important to him to have hype and highlights than to actually get wins. I'd rather have more guys like Booker, Mack, Seraphin, ect, that may not have as much god given talent or physical attributes as as Young and McGEE, but approach the game with more of a competitive, workman-like attitude.

I agree that Young could have handled his response better than he did. I just don't think he should be indicted for the way he responded.

His response may not have been as thoughtful and introspective as what you would expect to hear from Booker, Mason or Evans, but let's face it, Young isn't the type of guy who gives thoughtful introspective quotes in the first place.
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Post#190 » by The Consiglieri » Thu Mar 8, 2012 4:36 pm

I think you're both right. I think there's no denying that what Nick was getting at is reasonable. That teams get up for taking a poke at a big dog (think previous super bowl winner), and especially enjoy it when it's a marquee team like the lakers, and when you have an energized building, it energizes you. How else to explain how teams play so so so much better at home in most sports than on the road.

That being said, you dont say it, and you don't say it like he said it. It makes you sound like an idiot, and a slacker who can't get motivated unless the arena is, and the team is of interest. And like you said, NY seems to play hard only when he feels like it. It's grown more than tiresome.
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Re: Game Thread Wiz vs LAL 7PM 3/7 

Post#191 » by closg00 » Thu Mar 8, 2012 4:44 pm

Perhaps Potato Head is a bad coach after-all. The Lakers are worried.

Brown's effect on the Lakers' defense has been undeniable, but sources say the team's ongoing struggles on the road -- with L.A. dropping to 6-14 away from Staples Center following a loss in Detroit and blowing a 21-point lead to the undisciplined Wizards -- have some veterans longing for a return to the trusty Triangle offense preferred by Brown's predecessor, Phil Jackson.

ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard recently reported that Kobe Bryant and Derek Fisher called a players-only meeting after a win against Portland on Feb. 21 to address concerns about Brown's style, as well as persistent trade rumors involving Pau Gasol

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Post#192 » by miller31time » Thu Mar 8, 2012 6:26 pm

Brown is what he is -- an excellent defensive coach who seems to get along with his players well. Thinking he was going to come in, implement a different offensive scheme and have it be just as effective is ridiculous, IMO.

That's why, when he was hired, I was all but sure they'd keep the triangle offense and just have Kobe and Fisher spearhead the teaching to the new Lakers, while Brown focused on defense.

But I guess that was unrealistic -- they call people that do that assistant coaches.
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Post#193 » by Rafael122 » Thu Mar 8, 2012 7:48 pm

Kobe is also at fault though. If Wall had Bynum and Gasol as his bigs, we'd have 35 wins by now. Kobe doesn't feed them the ball at all. At all! 30 points on 31 shots? While Bynum and Gasol get a combined 22 shots?
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Post#194 » by FAH1223 » Thu Mar 8, 2012 9:03 pm

Rafael122 wrote:Kobe is also at fault though. If Wall had Bynum and Gasol as his bigs, we'd have 35 wins by now. Kobe doesn't feed them the ball at all. At all! 30 points on 31 shots? While Bynum and Gasol get a combined 22 shots?


Kobe is averaging 24 shots a game :o

They need a PG badly, a PG that will take the ball out of Kobe's hands and put his shot volume down to the teens
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Re: Game Thread Wiz vs LAL 7PM 3/7 

Post#195 » by hands11 » Fri Mar 9, 2012 12:08 am

The Consiglieri wrote:I think you're both right. I think there's no denying that what Nick was getting at is reasonable. That teams get up for taking a poke at a big dog (think previous super bowl winner), and especially enjoy it when it's a marquee team like the lakers, and when you have an energized building, it energizes you. How else to explain how teams play so so so much better at home in most sports than on the road.

That being said, you dont say it, and you don't say it like he said it. It makes you sound like an idiot, and a slacker who can't get motivated unless the arena is, and the team is of interest. And like you said, NY seems to play hard only when he feels like it. It's grown more than tiresome.


You mean endless booing doesn't do that. :D

Yeah, that answer by Nick was pretty bad. I just hope Randy keeps him focus on how he played last night because that was "good Nick" Well mostly.

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