Official Speculation Thread (Pt XVI, Mods Close)

BelgianMagic · Post #581 » by **BelgianMagic** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:43 pm

Hilltop wrote:Yeah, huge in paving the way for our demise. You just know the Magic are getting the fullest boners just thinking of starting him with Ellis. Yeah I'm sure we are going to laugh our way to the title with a pipsqueak and ball-dominant PG and SG combo.

+1

trebone · Post #582 » by **trebone** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:43 pm

^ Harper was a second round pick I dont have faith in him unless he drastically improves in the offseason, it will take him at least another full season to even sniff what ryan has been doing even with Dwight still here

Reverse_Angle · Post #583 » by **Reverse_Angle** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:44 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:
KingRobb02 wrote:Any Anderson trade means a heavy dose of Big Baby for the next few years...

Anderson's departure was written on the wall once we drafted Harper. I'm not saying Harper can fill Ryan's shoes (yet?), but Otis, and the rest of the FO, saw something in Harper that made them trade for him and making Ryan more expendable.

I think they kept trading him as an option when they declined the qualifying offer earlier in the season.

D12VCMagic · Post #584 » by **D12VCMagic** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:45 pm

InFlames wrote:Otis's dream of GSW + Dwight might become a reality.

No, we'd still need Stephen Jackson and Baron Davis for his dream to come true.

BelgianMagic · Post #585 » by **BelgianMagic** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:45 pm

Ken Berger ‏ @KBergCBS
The Blazers and Clips are discussing a deal that would send Jamal Crawford to L.A. for Eric Bledsoe and Ryan Gomes, sources say.

EasternMagic · Post #586 » by **EasternMagic** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:45 pm

magicfan84 wrote:^ Harper was a second round pick I dont have faith in him unless he drastically improves in the offseason, it will take him at least another full season to even sniff what ryan has been doing even with Dwight still here

Oh no doubt, I mean look how long it's taken Ryan to get to the level he's at now.. and he was a first rounder.

trebone · Post #587 » by **trebone** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:46 pm

Thats a good deal for LA only if they can resign crawford to a decent deal not just the rental

Nyce_1 · Post #588 » by **Nyce_1** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:46 pm

KingRobb02 wrote:
Nyce_1 wrote:
KingRobb02 wrote:Any Anderson trade means a heavy dose of Big Baby for the next few years...

Anderson's departure was written on the wall once we drafted Harper. I'm not saying Harper can fill Ryan's shoes (yet?), but Otis, and the rest of the FO, saw something in Harper that made them trade for him and making Ryan more expendable.

Yeah, it was the same thing they saw in Orton... UPSIDE!!!

Good point.

Idunkonyou2 · Post #589 » by **Idunkonyou2** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:47 pm

The hate for Anderson and Redick by some people in this thread is hilarious to say the least. All they do every night is give the Magic everything they have, while also putting up some damn good numbers along the way.

ADRajX · Post #590 » by **ADRajX** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:47 pm

BelgianMagic wrote:
Ken Berger ‏ @KBergCBS
The Blazers and Clips are discussing a deal that would send Jamal Crawford to L.A. for Eric Bledsoe and Ryan Gomes, sources say.

Christ, how many more weapons in the back-court do the Clippers need... they have CP3, Mo Will, Billups (injured), Caron, and now Jamal?

trebone · Post #591 » by **trebone** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:48 pm

Yea I have zero faith in Otis making the draft picks here, he just cant evaluate talent and he drafted Orton without even sitting down to interview the kid, there was a reason he slipped to us in the first place

gp123 · Post #592 » by **gp123** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:48 pm

Man, ive been ok with trading JJ... But it's gonna suck to see him go. That guy has turned into a he'll of a ball player

Post #593 » by **Hilltop** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:49 pm

eyriq wrote:I'm still strapped in. Screw it, I'm prepared for Universal's The Hulk, and I ain't letting no downers get me off the ride! Ariza and CLee are coming to Orlando! And Ellis!

^ WTF is that :lol:

Deadcellz · Post #594 » by **Deadcellz** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:50 pm

Not liking this, wish they would hurry up and do summit, trade who they are gonna trade, ive got jersey's to buy, they need to think about the fans here not themselves :banghead:

kman1023 · Post #595 » by **kman1023** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:50 pm

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh

Typical Speculation thread. Been following these since December. Earlier this morning it was Dwight gone for sure, to Monta potentially coming to the Magic (again.) Good news then bad news, good news then bad news, just keep repeating. Eventually something is going to happen and at this point it's a complete toss up.

Waiting for oncoming wave of bad news
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trebone · Post #596 » by **trebone** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:50 pm

gp123 wrote:Man, ive been ok with trading JJ... But it's gonna suck to see him go. That guy has turned into a he'll of a ball player

Yea I definitely would much rather them take JRich instead of JJ

ADRajX · Post #597 » by **ADRajX** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:51 pm

Idunkonyou2 wrote:The hate for Anderson and Redick by some people in this thread is hilarious to say the least. All they do every night is give the Magic everything they have, while also putting up some damn good numbers along the way.

I don't think anyone is hating on Redick or Ryan just because several of us want to see us attain Monta Ellis.

I like Redick and Ryan, they are my favorite players on the team by far. But I have to put aside my favoritism, and look at it objectively... Redick and Ryan gives it their all, and they put up good numbers... but they are replaceable pieces. Monta Ellis is a legit star (and that's my honest opinion, I know others think he isn't, but that's debatable as well), and Dwight has gone on the record saying "Monta" is one of the few guys he wants on this team in order to help him out. Dwight hasn't played with an explosive player in the back-court for his whole career (and Steve Francis doesn't count, because Dwight wasn't developed yet).

Edit* Ever since the Lakers/Magic Finals, we all saw that we needed a play-maker or a back-court scorer who can create for himself and for others when our offense becomes stagnant or late in games when the defense clamps down on our spot up shooters (our guys that can't create for themselves) and Dwight in the low-block single covered. Monta is a valuable addition to help make our offense more dynamic.

magicfanejc42 · Post #598 » by **magicfanejc42** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:51 pm

magicfan84 wrote:
gp123 wrote:Man, ive been ok with trading JJ... But it's gonna suck to see him go. That guy has turned into a he'll of a ball player

Yea I definitely would much rather them take JRich instead of JJ

Blue_and_Whte · Post #599 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:51 pm

and this thread has come to a screeching halt...

MagicBasketba11 · Post #600 » by **MagicBasketba11** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:52 pm

DJRajX wrote:
Idunkonyou2 wrote:The hate for Anderson and Redick by some people in this thread is hilarious to say the least. All they do every night is give the Magic everything they have, while also putting up some damn good numbers along the way.

I don't think anyone is hating on Redick or Ryan just because several of us want to see us attain Monta Ellis.

I like Redick and Ryan, they are my favorite players on the team by far. But I have to put aside my favoritism, and look at it objectively... Redick and Ryan gives it their all, and they put up good numbers... but they are replaceable pieces. Monta Ellis is a legit star (and that's my honest opinion, I know others think he isn't, but that's debatable as well), and Dwight has gone on the record saying "Monta" is one of the few guys he wants on this team in order to help him out. Dwight hasn't played with an explosive player in the back-court for his whole career (and Steve Francis doesn't count, because Dwight wasn't developed yet).

Well said.