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Official Trade Thread XVIII: 1/20/12 - 5/14/12

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Re: Official Trade Thread XVIII 

Post#1441 » by miller31time » Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:39 pm

Rafael122 wrote:We will see. I can't remember the last team with the worse record who ended up winning the lottery. I think it was Cleveland in '03, can't remember. Lottery is only there to determine the first 3 picks, picks 4-14 are the order by record. Correct me if I'm wrong?


I don't think this is correct -- the Bulls got the #1 overall pick in 2008 with the 9th-worst record in the league.

The last team to win the lottery with the NBA's worst record was Orlando in 2004. In 2003, Cleveland won it but they were tied for the NBA's worst record.

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Re: Official Trade Thread XVIII 

Post#1442 » by jivelikenice » Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:44 pm

Just saw somewhere that Mcgee let management know he'll be looking for $14 MM annually on a new deal. Trade him NOW
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Re: Official Trade Thread XVIII 

Post#1443 » by miller31time » Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:49 pm

jivelikenice wrote:Just saw somewhere that Mcgee let management know he'll be looking for $14 MM annually on a new deal. Trade him NOW


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Re: Official Trade Thread XVIII 

Post#1444 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:51 pm

I like a lot of players who could drop to round 2 more than Barnes.

Tony Mitchell, Will Barton, Jae Crowder, Scott Machado. A couple older players might be more ready to contribute. Kevin Jones, Mike Scott, Drew Gordon.

I would pass on an Ernie lotto pick in favor of Carmelo Anthony plus two solid round two picks, and one good FA signing.

The Wizards could bid on a defensive type like Alonzo Gee and pretty much guarantee themselves making it to the playoffs next season.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XVIII 

Post#1445 » by LyricalRico » Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:52 pm

jivelikenice wrote:Just saw somewhere that Mcgee let management know he'll be looking for $14 MM annually on a new deal. Trade him NOW


Maybe we can get in on the current 3-way rumor.

Wiz trade: McGee
Wiz receive: higher of the LAL and DAL picks

Lakers trade: first
Lakers recieve: Beasley

Wolves trade: Beasley
Wolves receive: Crawford

Blazers trade: Crawford
Blazers receive: McGee

Or maybe expand it to get Batum?
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Re: Official Trade Thread XVIII 

Post#1446 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:55 pm

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nuposse04 wrote:I would rather have cap room for making a run at good two way players plus a chance to land a premier post presence in the draft rather than splurging it on temporary success in Melo. Pass.


Cap room is meaningless if players don't want to sign here. Odds are that we'd have to throw more money than anyone just to get a mediocre player that's not even in the same stratosphere as Anthony.

That is why I would prefer Carmelo Anthony to anyone in this draft besides Anthony Davis.

Barnes isn't 20 yet and I don't think he's all that good. Drummond is 18. The Wizards are already a low-IQ group. They will continue to stink until they get talented veteran leaders.

It won't happen today or tomorrow, but the Wizards should consider trading the pick in the offseason for someone like Anthony.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XVIII 

Post#1447 » by miller31time » Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:00 pm

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nuposse04 wrote:I would rather have cap room for making a run at good two way players plus a chance to land a premier post presence in the draft rather than splurging it on temporary success in Melo. Pass.


Cap room is meaningless if players don't want to sign here. Odds are that we'd have to throw more money than anyone just to get a mediocre player that's not even in the same stratosphere as Anthony.


That is why I would prefer Carmelo Anthony to anyone in this draft besides Anthony Davis.

Barnes isn't 20 yet and I don't think he's all that good. Drummond is 18. The Wizards are already a low-IQ group. They will continue to stink until they get talented veteran leaders.

It won't happen today or tomorrow, but the Wizards should consider trading the pick in the offseason for someone like Anthony.


Absolutely. And it's not like Anthony is some old man -- he's only 27!
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Post#1448 » by Ruzious » Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:03 pm

I'm fine with the idea of getting Melo, but I just don't think we should have to give up anything significant to get him - and we should probably get NY to take Blatche. You can't ignore his contract.
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Post#1449 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:06 pm

LyricalRico wrote:
jivelikenice wrote:Just saw somewhere that Mcgee let management know he'll be looking for $14 MM annually on a new deal. Trade him NOW


Maybe we can get in on the current 3-way rumor.

Wiz trade: McGee
Wiz receive: higher of the LAL and DAL picks

Lakers trade: first
Lakers recieve: Beasley

Wolves trade: Beasley
Wolves receive: Crawford

Blazers trade: Crawford
Blazers receive: McGee

Or maybe expand it to get Batum?



I'd like to target the teams that have 2 high picks to give up one for McGee. Jazz and Hornets have 2nd picks currently projected 13 and 14 respectively. Could yield a Zeller, T.Jones, Ross, J.Lamb, Beal.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XVIII 

Post#1450 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:12 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
miller31time wrote:
nuposse04 wrote:I would rather have cap room for making a run at good two way players plus a chance to land a premier post presence in the draft rather than splurging it on temporary success in Melo. Pass.


Cap room is meaningless if players don't want to sign here. Odds are that we'd have to throw more money than anyone just to get a mediocre player that's not even in the same stratosphere as Anthony.

That is why I would prefer Carmelo Anthony to anyone in this draft besides Anthony Davis.

Barnes isn't 20 yet and I don't think he's all that good. Drummond is 18. The Wizards are already a low-IQ group. They will continue to stink until they get talented veteran leaders.

It won't happen today or tomorrow, but the Wizards should consider trading the pick in the offseason for someone like Anthony.



Would you do this + the pick ??

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Post#1451 » by Benjammin » Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:18 pm

^^^

Ha, ha!! No.
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Post#1452 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:21 pm

Absolutely, Super!

Problem with this scenario is there are only so many roster spots. If the Knicks do that trade, they would absorb at least three roster spots (Blatche, Vesely, Singleton) and a fourth if they keep the pick. The Knicks would have to immediately waive Turiaf, Young, and McGee--or players on their team as well.

Also, the Wizards would be like those teams in rural Iowa, that only have 7 or 8 boys (or girls) on the entire team. :)

I don't see it being realistic but heck yes, I would do that deal.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XVIII 

Post#1453 » by truwizfan4evr » Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:18 pm

I'ill pass on the melo idea.
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Post#1454 » by The Consiglieri » Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:22 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
miller31time wrote:
nuposse04 wrote:I would rather have cap room for making a run at good two way players plus a chance to land a premier post presence in the draft rather than splurging it on temporary success in Melo. Pass.


Cap room is meaningless if players don't want to sign here. Odds are that we'd have to throw more money than anyone just to get a mediocre player that's not even in the same stratosphere as Anthony.

That is why I would prefer Carmelo Anthony to anyone in this draft besides Anthony Davis.

Barnes isn't 20 yet and I don't think he's all that good. Drummond is 18. The Wizards are already a low-IQ group. They will continue to stink until they get talented veteran leaders.

It won't happen today or tomorrow, but the Wizards should consider trading the pick in the offseason for someone like Anthony.


Anthony is fools gold. He does not make teams better, period. I wouldn't trade any asset the team has for him that's worth anything. Heck I wouldn't trade for him period because of his onerous contract. A few wise mediots and commentators and metrics guys argued this point vociferously a year+ ago when he kept trying to force his way to NY, screaming at NY and it's fans that #1 Melo would not improve the team substantially and was not an elite difference maker and #2, if they yielded to Denver's demands, they'd be stripped of all the assets that could actually make them something to begin with. In the end the fool owner and his toadies overruled the intelligent GM and sold everything to get a glorified ball stopping chucker who yes, is an amazing scorer, but other than that is a total non-entity. That isn't to say he has no value. Clearly, he does. But he is not a difference maker, he isnt even close to a top 10 player in the league, and to treat him, and pay him like one when he can easily have close to a net negative effect on your team is clinically insane. Im glad he arrived to wreck the Knicks just as they were clearing off the worst of their contracts. Now they're screwed for another half-decade with two new mind numbingly stupid contracts for non-difference making players in Stoudemire and Melo. Excellent. There actually is a team stupider than ours. That always makes me feel better. We most definitely DO NOT WANT HIM, and he won't be coming here anyway. He'll be staying in NY, much to their fans dismay, now that they can clearly see the mistake they made in pursuing him.

As for McGee, I would trade him now too, while I have consistently argued that he will get at least 10 mill on the open market (the people that don't think so are delusional in my view), it is not in our interests to pay him that much. We'd be much wiser to sell him now.

I'd also stop with the insanity of attaching Blatche to any of these deals. People hate Blatche far more than they like picking up ANY of our players (save perhaps Wall). Amnesty him in the summer, and trade the assets you can NOW for picks and/or young players. Quit being stupid FO, I know it's hard, but you can do it!
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Re: Official Trade Thread XVIII 

Post#1455 » by The Consiglieri » Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:25 pm

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:
LyricalRico wrote:
jivelikenice wrote:Just saw somewhere that Mcgee let management know he'll be looking for $14 MM annually on a new deal. Trade him NOW


Maybe we can get in on the current 3-way rumor.

Wiz trade: McGee
Wiz receive: higher of the LAL and DAL picks

Lakers trade: first
Lakers recieve: Beasley

Wolves trade: Beasley
Wolves receive: Crawford

Blazers trade: Crawford
Blazers receive: McGee

Or maybe expand it to get Batum?



I'd like to target the teams that have 2 high picks to give up one for McGee. Jazz and Hornets have 2nd picks currently projected 13 and 14 respectively. Could yield a Zeller, T.Jones, Ross, J.Lamb, Beal.


Me too, I think a lot of the double picks are in weird protected scenarios though which makes it super confusing.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XVIII 

Post#1456 » by truwizfan4evr » Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:46 pm

I would rather have a deal involving for Nicolas Batum. A team player and up and coming star. I would take Nicolas before melo as far as team chemistry. Melo can score a lot of points. But Nicolas Batum does other things on the floor beside scoring basket. And last thing we need is another guy who jacks up shots on this team. If we got Melo for cheap that's fine with me. Melo also has a very large contract.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XVIII 

Post#1457 » by Tyrone Messby » Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:28 pm

Wall and Melo ? Sign me up. Ted is too cheap though. Won't happen. AND WHY IS EG STILL RUNNING THIS TEAM? Batum would be titties, but there is no way we're getting him. Having said that, I hope some moves are made tomorrow.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XVIII 

Post#1458 » by 34PaulPierce34 » Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:45 pm

jermaine oneal,jj johnson,dooling,avery bradley, clippers pick for blatch, mcgee and nick young

deal?
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Post#1459 » by The Consiglieri » Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:14 pm

From Michael Lee:

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http://hoopshype.com/rumors/tag/washington_wizards

Michael Lee: Source on possibility Andray Blatche will be traded by Thursday: “Dray won’t be moved due to a lack of interest.” #wizards Twitter
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Re: Official Trade Thread XVIII 

Post#1460 » by The Consiglieri » Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:15 pm

34PaulPierce34 wrote:jermaine oneal,jj johnson,dooling,avery bradley, clippers pick for blatch, mcgee and nick young

deal?


No.

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