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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#1061 » by Rafael122 » Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:39 pm

LyricalRico wrote:Also, by adding Kwame's expiring, MIL can now decline the option on Livingston and have max cap room in the summer. I'm not sure what their exact path forward is, but they've got options.


Problem is no one will want to play in Milwaukee.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#1062 » by Ruzious » Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:50 pm

dangermouse wrote:Maybe the interest shifts to the Bucks? Anything of interest they have that they would give up for him?

I think Milwaukee would definitely have a strong interest now. I just looked at Udoh's stats - I can't imagine relying on him to be their starting center. He's a ridiculously bad rebounder and a very inefficient offensive player. And even though he's got long arms and a 7'3 wingspan, his standing reach is bad (the long-neck syndrome?). He's basically a bad PF trying to play center.

Milwaukee now does have an extra guard named Ellis... He has 11 mil on his contract next season and I believe a player option for 11 mil the year after that. And he can run as fast as Wall.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#1063 » by LyricalRico » Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:08 pm

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LyricalRico wrote:Also, by adding Kwame's expiring, MIL can now decline the option on Livingston and have max cap room in the summer. I'm not sure what their exact path forward is, but they've got options.


Problem is no one will want to play in Milwaukee.


Hopefully McGee will. :-P

I just hope the Wiz don't match a MIL offer and turn him into "Etan part deux", only this time it's stupidity instead of injuries that holds him back.

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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#1064 » by Dat2U » Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:17 pm

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Well they haven't had a decent center since January when Bogut went down.

I think its a fair move. It gets rid of Jackson who is terrible right now and a real drain on the roster. Bogut was done for the season so they are already used to him not being on the court. Udoh can defend if nothing else. Not sure how the Jennings / Ellis thing will work but I think it's obvious you can't count on Bogut to stay healthy. And the descent in his play over the past few seasons was very noticeable. Golden State has a lot money tied up in injured and/or unproductive bigs (Bogut & Biedrins).


Hollinger had a very interesting breakdown of the deal. He liked it well enough for the Bucks. Dat, I'm a little surprised you like this just because you've always been the enemy of mediocrity. This move just seems to take the Bucks one step closer to being the Eddie Jordan Wizards.

Maybe that's their thinking a little bit. "Hey, we're 22nd in defense already. might as well try to light up the scoreboard and out run teams. "

I dunno. Seems like they're going nowhere, especially since they're likely to land outside the lotto.


The Bucks are already mired in mediocrity and are focused on maintaining that. That's not going to change. But it's not like they can work miracles. I'm of the opinion that getting anything of value for Bogut at this stage is good. Bogut isn't helping no one dressed in a suit behind the bench.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#1065 » by nate33 » Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:37 pm

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nate33 wrote:With luck, we can resign Mcgee to a much more reasonable deal, say, $7-8M a year.


Resigning McGee to ANY size contract would be unlucky for the Wizards IMO.

While there's no question that McGee is a bonehead who will never live up to his physical potential, I still think he is a useful player. You don't post a PER of nearly 20 without doing a few things right. The guy is 3rd in the league in block percentage and 12th in rebound percentage. If nothing else, McGee can sometimes dominate games against scrub centers.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#1066 » by closg00 » Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:42 pm

Wow, D Antonio resigns.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#1067 » by sashae » Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:42 pm

Welp, rumors out already that D'Antoni is in line for the Washington job...
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#1068 » by Ruzious » Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:54 pm

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nate33 wrote:With luck, we can resign Mcgee to a much more reasonable deal, say, $7-8M a year.


Resigning McGee to ANY size contract would be unlucky for the Wizards IMO.

While there's no question that McGee is a bonehead who will never live up to his physical potential, I still think he is a useful player. You don't post a PER of nearly 20 without doing a few things right. The guy is 3rd in the league in block percentage and 12th in rebound percentage. If nothing else, McGee can sometimes dominate games against scrub centers.

And as boneheaded as he still is, he's shown reason we continue to have hope in him. I don't think we've given him the credit he deserves for his improvement over the years in his defensive rebounding. His rookie year, he averaged 6.1 per pace adjusted 40 mins. 2nd year - 6.4. 3rd year - 7.5. This year - a respectable 8.5. Even with his off daze, he's become a good rebounder. He's listened to the coaches enough that he puts much more effort into that part of the game.

Kinda sad to hear that about Mike D. While Lin was doing so well, he was finally looking really good. When the veterans came back, it all fell apart so quickly.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#1069 » by willbcocks » Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:03 pm

But the team gets killed on the boards when he's in the game as a result of his gambling and being out of position on defense. He is a big net negative on the boards, despite his own rebounding stats.
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Post#1070 » by tontoz » Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:10 pm

:lol: @ Woodson getting the job. His offense in Atlanta was a running joke for the guys on TNT, iso-iso-iso. I am sure Melo will love it.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#1071 » by nate33 » Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:34 pm

sashae wrote:Welp, rumors out already that D'Antoni is in line for the Washington job...

I don't believe it for a second.

D'Antoni was a complete disaster in NY. I don't see anybody lining up to hire him without first considering other options. He simply isn't the hot commodity he was back in the Phoenix days.

And I certainly don't see Ted hiring him. The last thing this team needs is an all-offense, no-defense coach.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#1072 » by Ruzious » Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:45 pm

Speaking of NYK and Milw, it's amazing that they're tied for the last spot in the playoffs - with 18-24 records. Milwaukee management really wants that last playoff spot.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#1073 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:24 pm

sashae wrote:Welp, rumors out already that D'Antoni is in line for the Washington job...


We see how veteran Coach Saunders and now Wittman are doing.

This team needs a new guy who's never won a thing but who will not have anything but an objective, progressive approach.

Joerger has won every place he got to a head coach and now is a great time to bring him to the Wizards.

If they bring in D'Antoni I will be sick.
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Post#1074 » by tontoz » Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:23 am

I think James Dolan and Dan Snyder must have been separated at birth. Those guys are complete fukups as owners. I think McGee could make better personnel decisions than they have.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#1075 » by fishercob » Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:52 am

Mike D'antoni isn't a fit here, mostly because of his price tag. The Knicks blew up because of how poorly put together that roster is, plain and simple.

The Melo trade and subsequent extension (under the old CBA) destroyed them and they never recovered. Anyone with half a brain and an internet connection could have predicted that Melo and Amare didn't fit well together because they both used a ton of possessions, didn't pass much and struggled defensively.

If they had waited they could have held on to Gallinari, Chandler, Mosgov, Felton and three draft picks and been in a position to go after whomever they wanted in free agency -- Paul, Howard, Deron, Melo, etc.

D'antoni was dealt a losing hand. He got this team to play the 10th best defense in the league. He can definitely succeed somewhere with the right roster.
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Post#1076 » by tontoz » Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:53 am

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Post#1077 » by closg00 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:29 am

Kawhi Leonard with the highest +/- of the team last night hitting 4 -5 shots (2 3-pointers) The Spurs are happy.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#1078 » by Ruzious » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:05 am

So, what's the latest on Dwight Howard? Is he opting in or opting out?

And how many times is the answer going to change today?
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#1079 » by verbal8 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:15 am

Ruzious wrote:So, what's the latest on Dwight Howard? Is he opting in or opting out?

And how many times is the answer going to change today?

Apparently he is opting in. But given how many times it has changed, I wouldn't be confident until it is signed and delivered.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#1080 » by verbal8 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:52 am

It looks like it might be a boring trade deadline.

The "blockbuster" of Blake/Beasley and Crawford makes sense, but likely won't have a huge impact.

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