Discussing Other Teams' Moves

Post #1101 » by **miller31time** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:49 pm

Severn Hoos wrote:I see the note about the Blazers and find myself really hoping that we can pull off a McGee for Batum trade. Then I remember that Batum was on the board when we drafted McGee. Then I let out a little sigh...

Post #1102 » by **Ruzious** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:54 pm

Severn Hoos wrote:Oh, and I get that trading for Batum means nothing unless they re-sign him, and that means ponying up a lot of dough. Not an ideal scenario, but having the RFA leverage would be a plus.

Exactly - RFA leverage is huge with a player like Batum.

tontoz · Post #1103 » by **tontoz** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:01 pm

Ruzious wrote:
MikeTheKid wrote:Woj reported on WFAN-660 that every player on POR is on the trading block (including LMA) after that 42 point blowout last nite. There blowing up the team and Nate more than likely won't be back next year.

Including Aldridge? Wow.

It's not good to have an epically bad game the day before the trading deadline. You're liable to do something you're going to end up regreting. I hope EG is talking to Portly right now. Get Aldridge and Batum.

WOW x 2

FAH1223 · Post #1104 » by **FAH1223** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:06 pm

Aldridge is not even in his prime yet, he's only 26 years old and they want to trade him? WOW.

McGee for Batum PLEASE!

Post #1105 » by **nate33** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:07 pm

Ruzious wrote:
MikeTheKid wrote:Woj reported on WFAN-660 that every player on POR is on the trading block (including LMA) after that 42 point blowout last nite. There blowing up the team and Nate more than likely won't be back next year.

Including Aldridge? Wow.

It's not good to have an epically bad game the day before the trading deadline. You're liable to do something you're going to end up regreting. I hope EG is talking to Portly right now. Get Aldridge and Batum.

If we landed the #1 overall pick, would you trade it plus McGee and filler for Aldridge and Batum?

Post #1106 » by **Rafael122** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:09 pm

nate33 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
MikeTheKid wrote:Woj reported on WFAN-660 that every player on POR is on the trading block (including LMA) after that 42 point blowout last nite. There blowing up the team and Nate more than likely won't be back next year.

Including Aldridge? Wow.

It's not good to have an epically bad game the day before the trading deadline. You're liable to do something you're going to end up regreting. I hope EG is talking to Portly right now. Get Aldridge and Batum.

If we landed the #1 overall pick, would you trade it plus McGee and filler for Aldridge and Batum?

No. Because we lose out on Davis. I'd rather have Davis and Batum.

And we could always offer Batum a contract, just frontload the deal.

FAH1223 · Post #1107 » by **FAH1223** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:09 pm

nate33 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
MikeTheKid wrote:Woj reported on WFAN-660 that every player on POR is on the trading block (including LMA) after that 42 point blowout last nite. There blowing up the team and Nate more than likely won't be back next year.

Including Aldridge? Wow.

It's not good to have an epically bad game the day before the trading deadline. You're liable to do something you're going to end up regreting. I hope EG is talking to Portly right now. Get Aldridge and Batum.

If we landed the #1 overall pick, would you trade it plus McGee and filler for Aldridge and Batum?

Portland has to give us their pick and its a deal. If not, no way.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #1108 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:12 pm

nate33 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
MikeTheKid wrote:Woj reported on WFAN-660 that every player on POR is on the trading block (including LMA) after that 42 point blowout last nite. There blowing up the team and Nate more than likely won't be back next year.

Including Aldridge? Wow.

It's not good to have an epically bad game the day before the trading deadline. You're liable to do something you're going to end up regreting. I hope EG is talking to Portly right now. Get Aldridge and Batum.

If we landed the #1 overall pick, would you trade it plus McGee and filler for Aldridge and Batum?

No, I wouldn't trade the rights to Anthony Davis straight up for Aldridge and Batum. He's better already than either of them IMO. I would trade pick, however, because it is unlikely Washington wil land the top pick.

tontoz · Post #1109 » by **tontoz** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:20 pm

Just checking out Aldridge's numbers. He is 4th among 4s in PER but his rebounding is very weak. He plays 36 minutes a game but averages only 8 rebounds. That is bad even by Wizards standards.

Nivek · Post #1110 » by **Nivek** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:30 pm

Aldridge is a good player. One of his strengths is the ability to score efficiently. He's decent on the offensive glass. It looks like his defensive rebounding dipped a little when Portland acquired Gerald Wallace.

MikeTheKid · Post #1111 » by **MikeTheKid** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:33 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
nate33 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:Including Aldridge? Wow.

It's not good to have an epically bad game the day before the trading deadline. You're liable to do something you're going to end up regreting. I hope EG is talking to Portly right now. Get Aldridge and Batum.

If we landed the #1 overall pick, would you trade it plus McGee and filler for Aldridge and Batum?

No, I wouldn't trade the rights to Anthony Davis straight up for Aldridge and Batum. He's better already than either of them IMO. I would trade pick, however, because it is unlikely Washington wil land the top pick.

THIS

Unless we come out with Rafiki holding Baby Simba or something at the Draft Lottery to get the sympathy vote and rig the #1 pick

Post #1112 » by **miller31time** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:36 pm

I wouldn't trade the #1 overall pick for Aldridge and Batum (considering we can pursue Batum in free agency).

Davis is just too good to pass up.

But as CCJ said, I'd trade the pick (now) for that package in a heartbeat. Even proposed a trade in the trade thread upon finding out Portland was having a firesale.

Post #1113 » by **Ruzious** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:41 pm

I'd trade McGee and the 1st pick only if we had top 1 protection on the pick. I'd also be willing to throw in any other 2 players on the roster not named Wall. Then, if we get lucky - we'd have Aldridge, Batum AND Davis - to go with Wall next season.

MikeTheKid · Post #1114 » by **MikeTheKid** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:44 pm

Howard signed the waiver, the Nets forum is commiting suicide!

tontoz · Post #1115 » by **tontoz** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:44 pm

Nivek wrote:Aldridge is a good player. One of his strengths is the ability to score efficiently. He's decent on the offensive glass. It looks like his defensive rebounding dipped a little when Portland acquired Gerald Wallace.

It looks to me like his rebounding has always been weak. Last year he played 39.6 minutes and averaged 8.7 rebounds. The year before that played 37 minutes and averaged 8.1. That is pretty bad for a guy who splits time between the 4 and 5.

He is a skilled scorer but i didn't realize his rebounding was a problem. His rebound rate is actually equal to Al Harrington and a little behind Blatche.

Post #1116 » by **Ruzious** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:51 pm

MikeTheKid wrote:Howard signed the waiver, the Nets forum is commiting suicide!

Sounds like the Nets have shifted focus to resolve to build around Deron Williams. And they're likely getting the coincidentally afforementioned Gerald Wallace for a bag of magic beans.

Post #1117 » by **LyricalRico** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:53 pm

MikeTheKid wrote:Howard signed the waiver, the Nets forum is commiting suicide!

The team is also responding by trying to deal for Gerald Wallace (who has now been dealt at consecutive deadlines). Assuming they re-up Lopez, they still need a PF. I'd send them Blatche+2nd for Morrow+Petro.

MikeTheKid · Post #1118 » by **MikeTheKid** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:53 pm

Ruzious wrote:Sounds like the Nets have shifted focus to resolve to build around Deron Williams. And they're likely getting the coincidentally afforementioned Gerald Wallace for a bag of magic beans.

Deron's not staying, unless maybe they get LMA

closg00 · Post #1119 » by **closg00** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:06 pm

Wallace to the Nets, the Nets are not f**king around when it comes to being agreesive rebuilders.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #1120 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:12 pm

tontoz wrote:
Nivek wrote:Aldridge is a good player. One of his strengths is the ability to score efficiently. He's decent on the offensive glass. It looks like his defensive rebounding dipped a little when Portland acquired Gerald Wallace.

It looks to me like his rebounding has always been weak. Last year he played 39.6 minutes and averaged 8.7 rebounds. The year before that played 37 minutes and averaged 8.1. That is pretty bad for a guy who splits time between the 4 and 5.

He is a skilled scorer but i didn't realize his rebounding was a problem. His rebound rate is actually equal to Al Harrington and a little behind Blatche.

I actually was aware of this. I don't want to make another post in the I Was Wrong About thread, but I remember making posts about Blatche rebounding at a higher rate (and IIRC blocking more per minute) than Aldridge at a similar stage in their careers.