Nick Young traded to Clippers/McGee to Denver/Nene to DC

[Ruzious]

Clarification: That second-round draft from LAC (NOH) is actually in 2015, not this year. So, pump the brakes if you were giddy

And I just heard on the radio that it's a CONDITIONAL 2015 2nd rounder. For some reason, it irritates the hell out of me that Ernie has such attention to needless detail to the point that he found it necessary to get an utterly meaningless pick, and he still can't see the forest from the trees.

Speaking of which, it just hit me that I don't have to watch Javale and Nick underachieve anymore. It's a great feeling. I'm sure they're nice guys, and I wish them well, but it was so frustrating to watch them play stupidly.

[Dat2U]

Ruz, like I said before. Ernie's playing checkers while other GMs are playing chess.

I guess that conditional 2nd rounder 3 years from now is a win for Ernie because at least he can say he got something for Nick. Good for him. SMH.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Im very curious and intrigued to see how Wall and Nene play the PnR.. both defensively and offensively.

mySynergySports‏
JaVale McGee is 6th in the NBA in pick and roll efficiency, scoring 1.28 PPP as the roll man. Edges Nene in post 0.71 to 0.67

Watch Lawson to McGee rival Paul to DeAndre Jordan in terms of lob city.

Lawson's not Wall but I know George Karl is going to figure out real fast what he's got and what the Wizards gave up.

[truwizfan4evr]

Clarification: That second-round draft from LAC (NOH) is actually in 2015, not this year. So, pump the brakes if you were giddy

And I just heard on the radio that it's a CONDITIONAL 2015 2nd rounder. For some reason, it irritates the hell out of me that Ernie has such attention to needless detail to the point that he found it necessary to get an utterly meaningless pick, and he still can't see the forest from the trees.

Speaking of which, it just hit me that I don't have to watch Javale and Nick underachieve anymore. It's a great feeling. I'm sure they're nice guys, and I wish them well, but it was so frustrating to watch them play stupidly.

Are you f#cking kidding me? A pick for 2015. What good is that for us.

[MikeTheKid]

Lets be honest here, Nick Young got traded for an Afro Pick and movie tickets to Wrath of the Titans

[80sballboy]

I don't care about the Nick deal. We were going to lose him anyway. I thought I read somewhere that it might be Charlotte's 2nd.

But either way, I was shocked that they were able to find a decent matchup for McGee but now I know why. They knew they made a mistake with Nene and his inability to play through minor injuries (not the cancer). I don't love it or hate it. I think when EG finally saw he could dump both guys, he made the deal but I'm sure with trepidation. This had to be more of a Ted move since EG drafted these guys.

I feel like we're going in circles with this franchise. Assuming we get a new GM, I look at this summer as being the most important of the franchise in recent memory.
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[Silvie Lysandra]

I'm sure there were people who bellyached when Stromile Swift, Tyrus Thomas and Charlie V were traded/allowed to walk. They're young and they put up good numbers, they're obviously gonna develop, right! Cept they didn't.

Unintelligent, unmotivated and spoiled players don't win in this league, no matter how many double doubles they put up. They're fool's gold no matter how good their statlines at 23 are. McGee is a scrub and Young is an even bigger scrub. Nene is overpaid, but at least he can play.

[Ruzious]

Lets be honest here, Nick Young got traded for an Afro Pick and movie tickets to Wrath of the Titans

He got traded for a popcorn and a piece of gum stuck under the seat at the local rundown movie theater.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Clarification: That second-round draft from LAC (NOH) is actually in 2015, not this year. So, pump the brakes if you were giddy

And I just heard on the radio that it's a CONDITIONAL 2015 2nd rounder. For some reason, it irritates the hell out of me that Ernie has such attention to needless detail to the point that he found it necessary to get an utterly meaningless pick, and he still can't see the forest from the trees.

Speaking of which, it just hit me that I don't have to watch Javale and Nick underachieve anymore. It's a great feeling. I'm sure they're nice guys, and I wish them well, but it was so frustrating to watch them play stupidly.

I watched Wall play stupidly for a #1 overall and I watched Flip ride Blatche. As Javale got traded, the last couple games I watched Wittman ride Jordan Crawford and get angry with McGee.

What I suspect happens next is both Young and McGee suddenly mature. Chris Paul, Blake Griffin, and solid veterans like Butler (who already knows Nick well), and Foye (ditto). The stars couldn't have aligned better. No, divine intervention sent Nick to a better place. Young is a jacker but he's going to succeed there because the first thing they're going to discover is how good he is defensively. Second, he's going to get the ball from a smart PG who is way better than John Wall. Third, he's going to make highlight reels along with Griffin.

In McGee's case, that's just as much a can't miss, too. Gallinari can ball. Faried can ball. Afflalo is not a jacker. Lawson runs the court with his head up and he hits outside shots.

I am sticking my neck out, but I can't see Young or McGee doing anything but succeeding where they are. It was time to part with Nick, but Javale was given away as far as I'm concerned.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Watch Mcgee blow up now. Like all wizard big men traded away young.

Never going to happen.

It will happen within 2 weeks.

--McGee will not command anywhere near $13M is my prediction.
--McGee will "blow up" by being put in a situation where he cannot fail or be the fall guy. In Denver, his defense won't be a problem because Kenneth Faried plays so much better defense and Danillo Gallinari is so efficient on offense--Denver will rarely worry about his miscues.
--McGee will be a useful player on a good team is my prediction.
--His dunks will be featured and Denver will win a lot of games. They will never look back with regret over trading Nene.
--Nene will be an unhappy camper.

That's how this will go down.

[Dat2U]

I'm sure there were people who bellyached when Stromile Swift, Tyrus Thomas and Charlie V were traded/allowed to walk. They're young and they put up good numbers, they're obviously gonna develop, right! Cept they didn't.

Unintelligent, unmotivated and spoiled players don't win in this league, no matter how many double doubles they put up. They're fool's gold no matter how good their statlines at 23 are. McGee is a scrub and Young is an even bigger scrub. Nene is overpaid, but at least he can play.

You go ahead and show me where any of those guys were productive as McGee. And while you can question McGee's intelligence & whether he's spoiled I wouldn't jump to conclude he's unmotivated. I haven't seen signs that he doesn't really care. Maybe he doesn't 'get it', but I think the motivation is there.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

This deal perfectly sets up D'Antoni as coach & Harrison Barnes as draft pick, Ernie offseason I see in my Wizard's crystal ball.

[gesa2]

People should stop going on about Nene's bad contract. Of course he has a bad contract - If he didn't then Denver wouldn't have traded him. The Wiz aren't going to get any quality player in a trade or as a free agent on a great team friendly contract. You want Batum or Ryan Anderson? You're going to have to overpay like crazy or their teams will simply match. Maybe they would match even if we made a crazy offer. So we have to overpay any way you look at it.

There is a big difference between choosing to overpay Batum (23 years old, 17.91 PER) or Anderson (23 years old, 22.42 PER) to overpaying Nene (29 years old, 16.85 PER).

To put salt on the wound, neither Batum nor Anderson will get as much as $13 million a season.

Which, if true, means that we can STILL SIGN THEM THIS SUMMER (or at least try to, they're restricted).

Nene's signed for 4 years. Big men often don't peak until their early 30's, but even if he's past his peak, he's likely to earn his salary for the next 2 years, during which time he'll offer stability and possibly increase our chance of signing a half decent free agent by making us less of a laughing stock. He'll be an expiring contract who probably can still play a little in his last year. So maybe we overpay him for his third year here, in return for 3 years of a decent return on investment.

This isn't a great deal, but it's not bad, and it's a good start. No premier free agent was coming here until we improved our reputation, and the only way we do that is by overpaying a solid vet or 2. We'll hopefully still preserve the tank well enough with our absolute lack of talent at the 3 and 4 spots, so we stand a good chance of drafting a cornerstone player. Nene as our third best player ain't bad, and we still have cap space to spend.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Ruz, like I said before. Ernie's playing checkers while other GMs are playing chess.

I guess that conditional 2nd rounder 3 years from now is a win for Ernie because at least he can say he got something for Nick. Good for him. SMH.

You had me with Ernie's playing checkers, Dat.

I envision him on a rotary phone with a chalkboard in his offense, talking to GMs who are on IPhone4S or Androids. They've got staff who have crunched numbers in their databases and a zillion spreadsheets, while Ernie has a butcher paper with some markers and maybe even crayons. Who lets him make these moves?

[gesa2]

One way or another, there are gonna be some new entries in the "I was dead wrong" thread!!!

[closg00]

McGee will be an allstar in 2-3 years, right around year-4 of Nene's deal.

[dangermouse]

Wow...

So i woke up today, didnt see or hear anything about a trade. Looked at the starting lineup for tonight and saw no McGee. I was ecstatic! WE TRADED HIM! I quickly looked down the roster. WITH NICK YOUNG, YES! And then saw Blatche's name still there. It even looked fat as plain text. Doh, hes still there...

So i came on here to get the trade details, and got a little bit excited that we were getting Nene. But then reality set in, im not too sure about the trade, really...

The only good points i can see is that we moved two dumbasses and won't be a joke any more. The BBIQ of the team just jumped like 30 points in one move. Hes a good vet who plays D, and can score well around the basket. I think we'll be much improved, but i hope he sits to "rest an injury" for a few more games. I dont wanna start winning.

[Rafael122]

McGee an all star in what? You know how many centers he has to pass just to get there?

[Rafael122]

I think Wall also played a huge factor in this and Aldridge even alluded to it on NBATV. McGee and Young are as immature as they come, and that lack of maturity would want to make a guy like Wall look around and say "I can go to a better place." It was better for them to surround him with some talent NOW rather than wait until "we're ready to contend" and he's only going to be here one more year and then bolt. Look at what happened in Toronto with Bosh, Cleveland with Lebron, and to a certain extent Orlando with Dwight. We need to surround him with some talent now before he starts to think of where he wants to go next.

So while some of you may hate the move, keep that in mind. We're not getting a major free agent in here unless we overpay, so trading may be the only avenue we have to get talent, that and the draft.

[mhd]

Everyone knows I was against extending Javale. He'd never be worth it. Simply put, he doesn't execute fundamental basketball plays like setting screens and defending man-2-man.

I'm ambivalent about the trade. Nene makes a ton (IMO, way more than's he's worth). Is he tradeable? He's got to perform to make him that.