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Re: ATL vs BOS 

Post#21 » by ATL Boy » Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:50 am

Superiorblogman wrote:You don't know a thing about basketball. 4 seconds left on the clock, if he puts the ball down on the floor and they converge on Joe, then he is in the lane needed a 3. Why would he do that? That makes no sense

Why would he do that? Becuase he chokes (see the first game we had vs Chicago this season), and Joe wasn't that far away Teague had enough time to glance his way, and if he wasn't open then take the shot, it only takes .3 of a second to glance, and if Joe was open or in single coverage then make a pass which takes 1 second and that leaves Joe with around 2.5 to 3 seconds to shoot, and Joe wasn't in the lane btw he was outside the arc
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Re: ATL vs BOS 

Post#22 » by Ice Trae » Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:54 am

Teagues is has been anti-clutch so far in his career....
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Re: ATL vs BOS 

Post#23 » by MaceCase » Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:56 am

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Re: ATL vs BOS 

Post#24 » by myrak433 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:58 am

man I have been saying we need a pg. not that I don't like Teague, he is just not ready to be a starting pg on a playoff team. we should have moved teague and marvin and a first for Nash and Lopez. better yet would have been try to get nash and kaman or al jefferson. we could have used teague, marvin, horford, and a first to get a pg and a center.
that is all this team needs better play from pg and center, then jj and smoove would play better because teams could not double them all the time. and there would be less iso joe and/or iso joe would work better because when we iso, joe would be singled coverd.
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Re: ATL vs BOS 

Post#25 » by betta1 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:18 am

I had pretty good seats near the Hawks basket in the 2nd half. What KG was doing to Smoove on D could be considered rape in some parts of the world. He was straight up mugging him right in front of the whistle-swallowing officials. Can't blame him for not going inside as much as a lot of us would have liked.
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Post#26 » by Superiorblogman » Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:37 am

myrak433 wrote:man I have been saying we need a pg. not that I don't like Teague, he is just not ready to be a starting pg on a playoff team. we should have moved teague and marvin and a first for Nash and Lopez. better yet would have been try to get nash and kaman or al jefferson. we could have used teague, marvin, horford, and a first to get a pg and a center.
that is all this team needs better play from pg and center, then jj and smoove would play better because teams could not double them all the time. and there would be less iso joe and/or iso joe would work better because when we iso, joe would be singled coverd.


We need a lot like a starting C and move Al to PF and trade Josh Smith who went 5-20 and missed a 3 a couple offensive plays before but was bailed out by Zaza hustling for rebounds inside while stitched up then Joe making a 3. I would not be against trading Teague, Marvin, and Josh how about that? II feel the same way I do about Teague in the clutch as I do Josh taking jump shot after jump shot and keep missing then always having something to say to Teague and Zaza. Just isn't going to cut it.
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Re: ATL vs BOS 

Post#27 » by evildallas » Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:37 am

It wasn't the final shot they wanted but it was a good shot to tie. They hit the open man for a 3 pointer. With that little time left and a tough defensive team you can't always run the play you want. Teague airballed it which was sad.

For me the game turned when Zaza got hurt and Larry Drew failed to respond to Jason Collins playing the Hawks out of momentum and the Celtics into. He missed 4 free throws, had at least 2 turnovers and missed a defensive assignment. I shouted at Drew a lot during that stretch begging for Ivan Johnson at first and then anyone off the bench. It was until his second stop the bleeding timeout that Collins came out of the lineup. I know the lineup is stretched thin but Larry Drew helped this one get away with slow response to what anyone could see was happening on the floor.
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Re: ATL vs BOS 

Post#28 » by Superiorblogman » Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:41 am

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Superiorblogman wrote:You don't know a thing about basketball. 4 seconds left on the clock, if he puts the ball down on the floor and they converge on Joe, then he is in the lane needed a 3. Why would he do that? That makes no sense

Why would he do that? Becuase he chokes (see the first game we had vs Chicago this season), and Joe wasn't that far away Teague had enough time to glance his way, and if he wasn't open then take the shot, it only takes .3 of a second to glance, and if Joe was open or in single coverage then make a pass which takes 1 second and that leaves Joe with around 2.5 to 3 seconds to shoot, and Joe wasn't in the lane btw he was outside the arc


Makes no sense little kid. 4 seconds to go on the clock that is not enough time to be passing up open shots hoping things go right in order for you to get another open shot. I do agree that Teague does not make me feel good in the clutch but if he is going to be out there he needs to take that shot. Right shot bad results.
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Post#29 » by RLakh23 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:52 am

Atl is just blah... Seriously no moves before the deadline?
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Re: ATL vs BOS 

Post#30 » by MaceCase » Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:39 am

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parson wrote:Fun fact: Josh had 10 points on 5 for 20 shooting, 11 rebounds and 8 assists. If he'd shot less and passed more, he could have had a triple-double AND we'd probably have won the game. Isn't it interesting that he stopped going inside right after the trade deadline?

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I agree, about Josh. I don't like the guy. I try to cut him slack but he just keep doing stuff. I am not mad that he missing shots and continues jacking them. I am mad about him being so animated towards teammates such as Zaza and Jeff when they do something not so good. This team makes me sick from Jeff being weak minded to Josh being a self-centered punk that plays the blame game, takes bad shots, and even his assists are selfish instead of him giving the ball up he wants to make the play. What about a hockey assist or two Josh? Whatever I am not getting worked up about this misfit crew.

I had a small issue with that in this game. On the possession to end the 3rd quarter with Boston getting ready to inbound the ball he was yelling at everyone and pointing out where they needed to be on the set only to then let his own cover, Ray frickin Allen btw, to just waltz casually towards the passer and put up an uncontested 3. I see what Stack meant by how he can bruise guys with his words because he's often telling guys what to do on any given moment yet feels offended when his game gets critiqued. Quite a cast of characters on this team.
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Re: ATL vs BOS 

Post#31 » by Superiorblogman » Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:22 am

The writing has been on the wall about this team. When Jamal got his 6th man of the year award noone reportedly showed up for the presentation. Just a bunch of self-centered dudes that's why they always breakdown and go there own selfish ways once things breakdown.
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Post#32 » by HMFFL » Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:09 pm

Superiorblogman wrote:The writing has been on the wall about this team. When Jamal got his 6th man of the year award noone reportedly showed up for the presentation. Just a bunch of self-centered dudes that's why they always breakdown and go there own selfish ways once things breakdown.


I can't disagree.

It's been known that the team has had chemistry issues for years and it shows at times on the court.
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Re: ATL vs BOS 

Post#33 » by ATL Boy » Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:15 pm

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Superiorblogman wrote:You don't know a thing about basketball. 4 seconds left on the clock, if he puts the ball down on the floor and they converge on Joe, then he is in the lane needed a 3. Why would he do that? That makes no sense

Why would he do that? Becuase he chokes (see the first game we had vs Chicago this season), and Joe wasn't that far away Teague had enough time to glance his way, and if he wasn't open then take the shot, it only takes .3 of a second to glance, and if Joe was open or in single coverage then make a pass which takes 1 second and that leaves Joe with around 2.5 to 3 seconds to shoot, and Joe wasn't in the lane btw he was outside the arc


Makes no sense little kid. 4 seconds to go on the clock that is not enough time to be passing up open shots hoping things go right in order for you to get another open shot. I do agree that Teague does not make me feel good in the clutch but if he is going to be out there he needs to take that shot. Right shot bad results.

I'm not disagreeing but Joe was the one who had the hot hand at the time, and with 4 seconds Teague had time to at least glance Joe's way or at the very least set his feat, there wasn't a defender near him and it seemed like he rushed the shot
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Re: ATL vs BOS 

Post#34 » by Rip2137 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:22 pm

ESPN has made some of you horrible basketball fans. At some point hitting big shots in the final minutes of the game stop being clutch and only if you hit the last shot matters.

Teague has hit plenty of big shots for us this year. Call the kid a choker because he missed a 3 or some freethrows earlier this year is ridiculous.

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