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who is your power forward...

Lopez
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Humphries
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Both (keep them as a duo)
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Neither
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Re: Pick your power forward 

Post#21 » by vincecarter4pres » Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:11 pm

Oden2 wrote:If you guys land on the number 1 pick what would be your thoughts on dealing the pick for Lamarcus Aldridge? He'd be beastly next to Deron it seems. I come in peace just thought I'd inquire/ get some feedback.

I like the idea quite a bit to an extent.

We've discussed this here and on the trade board.

He's one of only 4 players I would deal that pick for if push came to shove and I think there would be a lot of interest from Portland, although I think they would want to go through free agency themselves first because you are a very realistic destination for Deron if he did indeed walk.

In fact I think his options go:

Brooklyn
Dallas
Portland

In that order and no other, unless we worked a S&T to LAL in the doomsday scenario.

I also think he's one of only 4 semi-realistically/reasonably available players that our FO would also trade that pick for.
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Re: Pick your power forward 

Post#22 » by PDXKnight » Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:19 pm

^ Seems like a potential win-win depending on what happens to the Blazers pick. Plus in free agency If the Blazers could land somebody like Dragic (or another big name in free agency) I wouldn't be nearly as interested considering it'd mean we're doing a quick rebuild rather than a longer term one. That said, this deal would offer the blazers a shot at getting much younger with a great player if we're looking to sell the farm, and the Nets would land a PF in Aldridge who would make a great second option next to Williams.
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Post#23 » by AVERYbigmistake » Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:00 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:
AVERYbigmistake wrote:I liked Thompson when he first came into the league he displayed a very unique ability to handle the ball on the break like a guard which made me think he could develop into a devastating off the dribble player (for a power forward)... For whatever reason his game just never progressed though...

Thompson would be a good player off the bench but I dan't see him being a starter on a good / playoff team.

My thoughts exactly.

I remember the days of yore when many were calling him the steal of the draft.

Oh how the mighty have fallen.


It's amazing how Kings fans claim the steal of the draft EVERY YEAR (Hassan Whiteside anyone? :lol:) yet the Kings never seem to get any better...
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Re: Pick your power forward 

Post#24 » by N Ireland Nets » Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:09 am

Oden2 wrote:^ Seems like a potential win-win depending on what happens to the Blazers pick. Plus in free agency If the Blazers could land somebody like Dragic (or another big name in free agency) I wouldn't be nearly as interested considering it'd mean we're doing a quick rebuild rather than a longer term one. That said, this deal would offer the blazers a shot at getting much younger with a great player if we're looking to sell the farm, and the Nets would land a PF in Aldridge who would make a great second option next to Williams.


Out of interest what would you suspect the offer would be. I ask because would it be basically giving Portland the 1st overall for Aldridge and counting the trade as the 1st we owe you for the Wallace trade. So in theory removing the protection on this years pick for Aldridge?

I honestly wouldnt trade Davis because I believe he has star written all over him and he will turn into a top franchise player. It would be hard to trade the 1st overall pick. I wonder who the last team to actually know they were picking 1st overall and traded the pick was?

I love aldridge and think he is getting better and better but i just dont know if i could stomach trading a young stud like Davis.

Interesting idea though
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Post#25 » by LOUiS-D » Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:59 am

If Williams walks, we don't make a top 3 jump AND the rockets miss the playoffs

- let hump walk
- sign and trade lopez (for lewis + picks)
- sign and trade wallace (for jose calderon + picks)
- sign Lou Amundson and Ryan Hollins to 2M deals
- resign Sheldon Williams to a 2M deal

and open up Barclay's Arena with

C Johan Petro (3.5M) / Ryan Hollins (2M)
PF Lou Amundson (2M) / Sheldon Williams (2M)
SF Gerald Green (~3M) / Rashard Lewis (23.7M)
SG Marshon Brooks (1.2M) / Anthony Morrow (4M)
PG Jose Calderon (10.5) / Jordan Farmar (4.2M)

(total ~56M and sufficiently over minimum payroll)

...

and tank away the pain

To answer OP's question more directly: Lou Amundson
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Post#26 » by N Ireland Nets » Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:24 am

LOUiS-D wrote:If Williams walks, we don't make a top 3 jump AND the rockets miss the playoffs

- let hump walk
- sign and trade lopez (for lewis + picks)
- sign and trade wallace (for jose calderon + picks)
- sign Lou Amundson and Ryan Hollins to 2M deals
- resign Sheldon Williams to a 2M deal

and open up Barclay's Arena with

C Johan Petro (3.5M) / Ryan Hollins (2M)
PF Lou Amundson (2M) / Sheldon Williams (2M)
SF Gerald Green (~3M) / Rashard Lewis (23.7M)
SG Marshon Brooks (1.2M) / Anthony Morrow (4M)
PG Jose Calderon (10.5) / Jordan Farmar (4.2M)

(total ~56M and sufficiently over minimum payroll)

...

and tank away the pain

To answer OP's question more directly: Lou Amundson


We'd offer Eric Gordon the max & resign Lopez if Williams walked.
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Post#27 » by vincecarter4pres » Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:15 pm

Yeah I don't think some people get it, we're not going into Brooklyn with some abomination of a roster by choice, that will only be if we strike out in free agency and Deron and maybe Wallace walk.

If Deron walks we still have around $22 million in cap we have to spend by the trade deadline.

And we'll throw big money at a bunch of guys like Gordon, Batum, Garnett, etc., and worse case is something like O.J. Mayo getting 4 years and $40 million, D.J. Augustin or Dragic to big money, resigning Brook to max and Hump to a big deal and still being a **** team.

And honestly, that above roster, even trying to tank, you might as well contract the team with a roster like that. That is atrocious. I am a complete die hard and I literally would abandon this team if they put that roster on the floor. I'm not even exaggerating, that team wins maybe 6 games in an 82 game season and it's not like the NFL, so you're still not guaranteed the #1 pick.

No team would EVER put a lineup like that on the floor.
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Post#28 » by Shameer1016 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:21 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:Yeah I don't think some people get it, we're not going into Brooklyn with some abomination of a roster by choice, that will only be if we strike out in free agency and Deron and maybe Wallace walk.

If Deron walks we still have around $22 million in cap we have to spend by the trade deadline.

And we'll throw big money at a bunch of guys like Gordon, Batum, Garnett, etc., and worse case is something like O.J. Mayo getting 4 years and $40 million, D.J. Augustin or Dragic to big money, resigning Brook to max and Hump to a big deal and still being a **** team.

And honestly, that above roster, even trying to tank, you might as well contract the team with a roster like that. That is atrocious. I am a complete die hard and I literally would abandon this team if they put that roster on the floor. I'm not even exaggerating, that team wins maybe 6 games in an 82 game season and it's not like the NFL, so you're still not guaranteed the #1 pick.

No team would EVER put a lineup like that on the floor.


They came into the season tanking AGAIN!!!. When I questioned why they didn't go after any good players, majority told me to look at the "bigger picture" and the future, so the Nets basically made there beds, and now they have to lay in it. They better pray for that #1 pick.
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Post#29 » by ecuhus1981 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:49 pm

IF we get the #1 pick, rest assured Davis is going straight to Orlando, along with Wallace, Brook, Morrow, Farmar, the HOU 1st and whatever other assets we can muster for Duhwight, Hedon't, Duhon and Q.
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Post#30 » by N Ireland Nets » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:48 pm

ecuhus1981 wrote:IF we get the #1 pick, rest assured Davis is going straight to Orlando, along with Wallace, Brook, Morrow, Farmar, the HOU 1st and whatever other assets we can muster for Duhwight, Hedon't, Duhon and Q.


I may be in the minority & sound crazy but if we drafted Davis I would struggle to give him up in any trade.

You could very well be giving up the next superstar big man in the NBA.

I'd offer them Lopez, Wallace & Brooks with what ever rookie we draft with the Houston pick if were lucky enough to get their pick.

Like I said I just wouldn't give up Davis as some others seem to be ready to do.

I know he's a rookie & both are utter pipe dreams but could you imagine a Howard/Davis front court?
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Post#31 » by NyCeEvO » Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:19 pm

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ecuhus1981 wrote:IF we get the #1 pick, rest assured Davis is going straight to Orlando, along with Wallace, Brook, Morrow, Farmar, the HOU 1st and whatever other assets we can muster for Duhwight, Hedon't, Duhon and Q.


I may be in the minority & sound crazy but if we drafted Davis I would struggle to give him up in any trade.

You could very well be giving up the next superstar big man in the NBA.

I'd offer them Lopez, Wallace & Brooks with what ever rookie we draft with the Houston pick if were lucky enough to get their pick.

Like I said I just wouldn't give up Davis as some others seem to be ready to do.

I know he's a rookie & both are utter pipe dreams but could you imagine a Howard/Davis front court?

Yes, I could but given our situation, we will probably need to sacrifice long term dreams for short term realities.

The fact of the matter is that while the kid is an absolute hound on defense, it would take a minimum of 2-3 years for him to develop any semblance of a respectable post game.

This is exactly what Davis will be next year, except (dare I say) with even less of a post game.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvbPL2NpBmM[/youtube]

The Nets aren't going to want to wait until D-Will is 1/2 done with his new contract for the guy to become a stud.

Even though he could be like the next KG, he'd probably need to get traded so that we have super talent asap.

I know your reluctance to trade him but if 6 years, he'll be just entering his prime at 25, while D-Will would be 33 looking at 34. Davis is kinda the next generation and the Nets would trade for LMA who is an all-star now for a guy who has the chance to be an even bigger star several years down the road when the title window for D-Will will start to close.
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Post#32 » by AVERYbigmistake » Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:11 am

Anthony Davis remind me of Jonathan Bender...
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Post#33 » by SpeedyG » Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:25 am

AVERYbigmistake wrote:Anthony Davis remind me of Jonathan Bender...


I don't know. Bender wasn't much of a defender, but his offensive game was smooth for his size. If not for his injuries, Bender could have been a star.
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Post#34 » by SpeedyG » Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:31 am

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ecuhus1981 wrote:IF we get the #1 pick, rest assured Davis is going straight to Orlando, along with Wallace, Brook, Morrow, Farmar, the HOU 1st and whatever other assets we can muster for Duhwight, Hedon't, Duhon and Q.


I may be in the minority & sound crazy but if we drafted Davis I would struggle to give him up in any trade.

You could very well be giving up the next superstar big man in the NBA.

I'd offer them Lopez, Wallace & Brooks with what ever rookie we draft with the Houston pick if were lucky enough to get their pick.

Like I said I just wouldn't give up Davis as some others seem to be ready to do.

I know he's a rookie & both are utter pipe dreams but could you imagine a Howard/Davis front court?

Yes, I could but given our situation, we will probably need to sacrifice long term dreams for short term realities.

The fact of the matter is that while the kid is an absolute hound on defense, it would take a minimum of 2-3 years for him to develop any semblance of a respectable post game.

This is exactly what Davis will be next year, except (dare I say) with even less of a post game.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvbPL2NpBmM[/youtube]

The Nets aren't going to want to wait until D-Will is 1/2 done with his new contract for the guy to become a stud.

Even though he could be like the next KG, he'd probably need to get traded so that we have super talent asap.

I know your reluctance to trade him but if 6 years, he'll be just entering his prime at 25, while D-Will would be 33 looking at 34. Davis is kinda the next generation and the Nets would trade for LMA who is an all-star now for a guy who has the chance to be an even bigger star several years down the road when the title window for D-Will will start to close.


KG's offensive game was advanced for his age. Until I see more of what Davis can do offensively, as far as I'm concerned...he's a Marcus Camby type of player.
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Post#35 » by NyCeEvO » Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:58 pm

^^I was basically trying to show that even though we know KG used to be a beast, it still took him a while to become a dominant offensive threat and he was already good at offense. PEB has a ways to go before he even reaches KG rookie level and that means we'd have to wait even longer before he becomes a true superstar, if he ever does.

I'm not on the "Keep PEB no matter what" bandwagon. In order to keep D-WIll and attract other stars very soon, it would be better to trade him for a talented veteran now than to wait for him to become a beast.

He's not like Shaq in that he's going to come in and be such a beast that everyone is going to want to play with him. It's going to take time before other players would be excited about playing with him.

We need players that are going to have a greater immediate impact now even if they're not going to be as good as PEB can become.
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Post#36 » by vincecarter4pres » Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:12 pm

Davis in his freshman year is a better player then Camby at any point at UMass.

Davis absolutely blows Camby out of the water as a prospect.
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Post#37 » by AntwanBoldin » Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:31 pm

His offensive repertoire will be more fully appreciated after workouts
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Post#38 » by N Ireland Nets » Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:36 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:Davis in his freshman year is a better player then Camby at any point at UMass.

Davis absolutely blows Camby out of the water as a prospect.


I have to laugh at people saying Davis will turn into Camby in the NBA, what a croc of shite. Davis is legit and he could, could be a star
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Post#39 » by ecuhus1981 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:49 am

Anthony Davis > LaMarcus Aldridge

Someone mentioned that Davis could be a poor-man's David Robinson. I think the Admiral is a more proper comparison. He was very efficient offensively, but never had a HUGE repertoire. Long career as a DOMINANT defensive presence, because it was more due to timing and length than "athleticism".

If we get the #1 pick, I wouldn't even care if Wallace walked. I haven't run the numbers, but I might even prefer it, if he wasn't interested in re-signing at a bargain (Shawn Marion type of contract TOPS).

BTW < LMA would be a poor fit next to Lopez IMO, because of his lackluster rebounding and has more of an offensive mindset. I'd hate to pay through the nose (face-of-the-franchise markup) for a semi-star, who doesn't fit really well next to our other big.
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