(Building Around Wall) no pun, but what need to be done?

[dangermouse]

^its not bad... but its not raising my eyebrow much either.

it might not look mediocre but we would be stuck in mediocrity. Old Nuggets East.

[Illuminaire]

I remain unconvinced that Carmelo is worth anywhere near max money.

[TheKingOfVa360]

I remain unconvinced that Carmelo is worth anywhere near max money.

Then you don't know basketball. Melo's been to the playoffs every year as the best player, had like 5 straight 50 win seasons with the Nuggets. An elite scorer and best inside-outside player in basketball who was in a slump. Whens the last time the Wizards had a 50 win season? Probably like 1978.

[tontoz]

I remain unconvinced that Carmelo is worth anywhere near max money.

Then you don't know basketball. Melo's been to the playoffs every year as the best player, had like 5 straight 50 win seasons with the Nuggets. An elite scorer and best inside-outside player in basketball who was in a slump. Whens the last time the Wizards had a 50 win season? Probably like 1978.

No he isn't and never has been. His jumper is mediocre and he gets his shot blocked a lot inside because he can't jump. He has the same vertical as Shelden Williams.

[nate33]

Carmelo Anthony - per 36 numbers:
points 22.0
rebounds 6.5
assists 4.1
steals 1.1
turnovers 2.8
FG% .403
FT% .804
3P% .293
TS% .501

Player X - per 36 numbers:
points 19.3
rebounds 3.3
assists 3.9
steals 1.3
turnovers 2.9
FG% .403
FT% .785
3P% .284
TS% .490

Numbers are remarkably similar except for rebounds.

Player X is Jordan Crawford

[Ruzious]

Dat, that's a prescription for mediocrity. While Nene may be overpaid, Melo is a decidedly unspecial player making superstar money. I don't want him.

I think he's a pretty good player. The problem is - he's not just going to be paid like a superstar; he's going to be paid like a megaultraubersuperstar. (Call that Webster guy and tell him we got a new word.) He's scheduled to get 20.4 next season, 22.4 the season after next, and then 24.3. With Nene already getting his 13, a team like Washington can't justify giving up a pick for the priviledge of grossly over-paying a good player.

[Ed Wood]

Look Nate: counting stats, I'm not sure I can put it any more clearly than that. Let me try that again, Counting Stats see, is this getting through to you? I don't see what you're missing here, this stuff is important. So to summarize:

Number One Option
Team Wins
Arbitrary Label
COUNTING STATS

[tontoz]

Carmelo Anthony - per 36 numbers:
points 22.0
rebounds 6.5
assists 4.1
steals 1.1
turnovers 2.8
FG% .403
FT% .804
3P% .293
TS% .501

Player X - per 36 numbers:
points 19.3
rebounds 3.3
assists 3.9
steals 1.3
turnovers 2.9
FG% .403
FT% .785
3P% .284
TS% .490

Numbers are remarkably similar except for rebounds.

Player X is Jordan Crawford

LOL don't let Chuck see that comparison. I am guessing he would take it the wrong way.

[miller31time]

If NY wanted to get out of the Melo deal, I'd have to consider it... but there's no way I'm throwing in a pick in the 2012 draft (especially if it's top 3) AND giving them Shart's contract.

I'd honestly consider giving them a pick if we fall outside the top 3 and they take Blatche's contract. Maybe something like this...

Amnesty Lewis (thus creating cap room).

Wizards trade:
PF Andray Blatche @ $6.5 mil
PF Jan Vesely @ $3.0 mil
SF Chris Singleton @ $1.5 mil
rights to 4th/5th pick (saving approx $3.5 mil in cap space)

Knicks trade:
SF Carmelo Anthony @ $18.5 mil

We'd immediately take on about $7-8 million dollars of salary but some of that would be offset by not paying for a high lottery pick. But I think we'd still have enough cap room to add one or two solid free agents to an attractive core of Wall, Anthony & Nene.

It's a risky ALL IN type move but if we miss in the lottery, it might be a better alternative to Ernie and the scouting department falling in love with a player they've had their eyes on for years. A trade like this would bring the Nene trade into better focus from a directional standpoint.

Agreed that acquiring Anthony now would be a great move. His value is at an all-time low and we would be getting a bargain of epic proportions.

Where we differ is that, past Anthony Davis, I would be more than willing to trade our pick + Shart for Melo. I like Gilchrist, Robinson and Beal but feel that Anthony's impact on the team would be incredibly positive and instantly transform this squad into a playoff team (and then some, with room to grow).

[JonathanJoseph]

Look Nate: counting stats, I'm not sure I can put it any more clearly than that. Let me try that again, Counting Stats see, is this getting through to you? I don't see what you're missing here, this stuff is important. So to summarize:

Number One Option
Team Wins
Arbitrary Label
COUNTING STATS

This.

[fishercob]

Look Nate: counting stats, I'm not sure I can put it any more clearly than that. Let me try that again, Counting Stats see, is this getting through to you? I don't see what you're missing here, this stuff is important. So to summarize:

Number One Option
Team Wins
Arbitrary Label
COUNTING STATS

This.

Dude, he's mocking you.

[JonathanJoseph]

Look Nate: counting stats, I'm not sure I can put it any more clearly than that. Let me try that again, Counting Stats see, is this getting through to you? I don't see what you're missing here, this stuff is important. So to summarize:

Number One Option
Team Wins
Arbitrary Label
COUNTING STATS

This.

Dude, he's mocking you.

If so, interesting how that works.