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Re: Thibodeau upset with Chicago, next season with Heat ? 

Post#41 » by pirate_pr » Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:31 pm

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Heat3 wrote:No thanks. We have a damn good coach already. Guy got out coached by Spo last year in the playoffs and now some of you want him to replace Spo? :lol:

Book mark this crap so we can revisit after we knock out the Bulls AGAIN.

You can bet pirate_pr will NOT be here if we knock out the Bulls.






..........except we end up losing in the Finals.

F*kin sadist!

I will be here win or lose for sure i want our team to win and KICK THE BULLS @** like we all do. I am just saying they got a better coach than we do is all. They do not have the FIREPOWER in starting 5 on offense like we do. In playoffs/championships starting 5 plays the most so we have the edge as long as we REBOUND, keep high energy & focus. They got a better bench then we do for sure more depth. IF WE LOSE AGAIN WILL YOU KEEP PROTECTING SPO KISSING HIS A** ? lol NOTHING IN LIFE IS GIVEN FOR GRANTED WE HAVE TO GO AND WIN WE SHOULD LEARN FROM LAST YEAR.
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Re: Thibodeau upset with Chicago, next season with Heat ? 

Post#42 » by ReturnofMVP3 » Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:42 pm

Honestly Spo isn't some super awesome coach and I get pissed off about some of his weird habits, from benching Beasley at the 5min mark for Haslem to doing it to Bosh. The guy does things his way.

However, I am grateful every day that we don't have a D'antoni, Smart, Flip Saunders type coach who would **** us up by making us one dimensional.

Keep in mind we have the great Pat Riley watching over us and I wouldn't doubt for a second that if things really got bad that he wouldn't take over or find someone just as good (Sloan). In that regard we don't need Thibs who is inferior to Riley anyways!
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Re: Thibodeau upset with Chicago, next season with Heat ? 

Post#43 » by pirate_pr » Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:46 pm

ReturnofMVP3 wrote:Honestly Spo isn't some super awesome coach and I get pissed off about some of his weird habits, from benching Beasley at the 5min mark for Haslem to doing it to Bosh. The guy does things his way.

However, I am grateful every day that we don't have a D'antoni, Smart, Flip Saunders type coach who would **** us up by making us one dimensional.

Keep in mind we have the great Pat Riley watching over us and I wouldn't doubt for a second that if things really got bad that he wouldn't take over or find someone just as good (Sloan). In that regard we don't need Thibs who is inferior to Riley anyways!

i AGREE WITH YOU 100% But in the Playoffs/Finals during a in game situation Riley cant do crap its on Spo unless Spo wearing a bluetooth headset talking to Riley during game lol :) for that Riley just comes down to coach and everyone will feel little more secure.
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Re: Thibodeau upset with Chicago, next season with Heat ? 

Post#44 » by RhapidKid » Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:51 pm

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Heat3 wrote:No thanks. We have a damn good coach already. Guy got out coached by Spo last year in the playoffs and now some of you want him to replace Spo? :lol:

Book mark this crap so we can revisit after we knock out the Bulls AGAIN.

You can bet pirate_pr will NOT be here if we knock out the Bulls.






..........except we end up losing in the Finals.

F*kin sadist!

I will be here win or lose for sure i want our team to win like we all do.

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Re: Thibodeau upset with Chicago, next season with Heat ? 

Post#45 » by ReturnofMVP3 » Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:53 pm

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ReturnofMVP3 wrote:Honestly Spo isn't some super awesome coach and I get pissed off about some of his weird habits, from benching Beasley at the 5min mark for Haslem to doing it to Bosh. The guy does things his way.

However, I am grateful every day that we don't have a D'antoni, Smart, Flip Saunders type coach who would **** us up by making us one dimensional.

Keep in mind we have the great Pat Riley watching over us and I wouldn't doubt for a second that if things really got bad that he wouldn't take over or find someone just as good (Sloan). In that regard we don't need Thibs who is inferior to Riley anyways!

i AGREE WITH YOU 100% But in the Playoffs/Finals during a in game situation Riley cant do crap its on Spo unless Spo wearing a bluetooth headset talking to Riley during game lol :) for that Riley just comes down to coach and everyone will feel little more secure.


Totally but chances are if something goes unfortunately wrong AGAIN in the playoffs/finals then Riley won't hesitate to do something. Even if Spo gets put down from the head coach I could see Riley keeping him as an assistant or something to that regard out of kindness. Also I do not doubt Riley would give some sort of motivational speach in the locker room during half time, pregame ect if we were doing bad in the playoffs/finals. I'm pretty sure he tried to fire us up last year too!
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Post#46 » by pirate_pr » Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:56 pm

you will see Rhapidkid i will be here rain or shine! I hope its shine and we all celebrate together and forget all the things we have said to each other and enjoy the victory. If we lose you know i am going to go off on who ever deserves it lol :) I will also give props to Spo if he does a good coaching job or who ever else does good.
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Re: Thibodeau upset with Chicago, next season with Heat ? 

Post#47 » by DWadeno3 » Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:01 pm

pirate_pr wrote:I do have some sources yes but i am not a mind reader and i cannot dictate peoples decisions. Lets see if some information does come my way i hope so ill let you know :)


I was actually being sarcastic about your sources. ;)

Regarding your statement of Thibodeau being a better coach than Carlisle, I can only strongly disagree. Carlisle is a coaching mastermind. He's great at preparing his team for its opponent while his biggest strength is his ability to adjust on the fly. All these comeback victories the Mavs had were not just a coincidence of shots falling. He developed quick plays which exploited the other team's strategy and confused the opposing team's coach. While Carlisle exploited our defense beautifully and found a good defensive strategy despite not having a team full of great defenders, Thibodeau ran against a brick wall, trying to force his team into the same stuff over and over again.

Thibodeau is a good coach, but Carlisle is among the three best in the league.
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Re: Thibodeau upset with Chicago, next season with Heat ? 

Post#48 » by pirate_pr » Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:03 pm

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ReturnofMVP3 wrote:Honestly Spo isn't some super awesome coach and I get pissed off about some of his weird habits, from benching Beasley at the 5min mark for Haslem to doing it to Bosh. The guy does things his way.

However, I am grateful every day that we don't have a D'antoni, Smart, Flip Saunders type coach who would **** us up by making us one dimensional.

Keep in mind we have the great Pat Riley watching over us and I wouldn't doubt for a second that if things really got bad that he wouldn't take over or find someone just as good (Sloan). In that regard we don't need Thibs who is inferior to Riley anyways!

i AGREE WITH YOU 100% But in the Playoffs/Finals during a in game situation Riley cant do crap its on Spo unless Spo wearing a bluetooth headset talking to Riley during game lol :) for that Riley just comes down to coach and everyone will feel little more secure.


Totally but chances are if something goes unfortunately wrong AGAIN in the playoffs/finals then Riley won't hesitate to do something. Even if Spo gets put down from the head coach I could see Riley keeping him as an assistant or something to that regard out of kindness. Also I do not doubt Riley would give some sort of motivational speach in the locker room during half time, pregame ect if we were doing bad in the playoffs/finals. I'm pretty sure he tried to fire us up last year too!

Lets hope for the best we have team to win it this year same as we did last year, its about going out and doing the right things to win. You said the right word something going wrong AGAIN IN PLAYOFFS/FINALS lol why risk having a AGAIN ? :)
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Re: Thibodeau upset with Chicago, next season with Heat ? 

Post#49 » by RhapidKid » Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:06 pm

pirate_pr wrote:you will see Rhapidkid i will be here rain or shine! I hope its shine and we all celebrate together and forget all the things we have said to each other and enjoy the victory. If we lose you know i am going to go off on who ever deserves it lol :) I will also give props to Spo if he does a good coaching job or who ever else does good.

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Re: Thibodeau upset with Chicago, next season with Heat ? 

Post#50 » by pirate_pr » Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:15 pm

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pirate_pr wrote:I do have some sources yes but i am not a mind reader and i cannot dictate peoples decisions. Lets see if some information does come my way i hope so ill let you know :)


I was actually being sarcastic about your sources. ;)

Regarding your statement of Thibodeau being a better coach than Carlisle, I can only strongly disagree. Carlisle is a coaching mastermind. He's great at preparing his team for its opponent while his biggest strength is his ability to adjust on the fly. All these comeback victories the Mavs had were not just a coincidence of shots falling. He developed quick plays which exploited the other team's strategy and confused the opposing team's coach. While Carlisle exploited our defense beautifully and found a good defensive strategy despite not having a team full of great defenders, Thibodeau ran against a brick wall, trying to force his team into the same stuff over and over again.

Thibodeau is a good coach, but Carlisle is among the three best in the league.

Good Coaches make bad or average teams better Carlisle has never really done that if you want we can start another thread on that. Carlisle is a good coach don' get me wrong but Thibs is more defensive minded and offensive too HE IS BETTER :) facts for the progression of team from last season to this season prove it. Dallas should have not won last year it was a miracle everyone knows that. They had veterans, the depth and Tyson Chandler on D in the middle lets see what they can do this year. Carlisle did a great job for sure but i would take Thibs. Boston won championship few years ago not really because of Doc Rivers was mostly because of Thibs. Doc Rivers is good coach too for sure but Thibs made that defense what it still is today. Boston are older & slower and still have the 3rd best defense in league today. Last year Carlisle had the supporting cast to get it done THE TALENT & DEPTH. We still should have won last year with the TALENT WE HAD & STILL HAVE even Carlisle said he made adjustments when Spo did not and thats how they beat us :) Dallas out REBOUNDED US since they were bigger and LeBron did not play to championship capacity in 4th quarters ZONE DEFENSE chocked us ZONE DEFENSE is easiet defense to beat and they beat us with that go figure lol nothing mastermind about that. Dirk played his game great Barea dusted Bibby and other guys too was a team effort. jason Terry their guys we hitting the shots off bench it was meant for them to win simple and plain.
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Re: Thibodeau upset with Chicago, next season with Heat ? 

Post#51 » by DWadeno3 » Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:45 pm

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pirate_pr wrote:I do have some sources yes but i am not a mind reader and i cannot dictate peoples decisions. Lets see if some information does come my way i hope so ill let you know :)


I was actually being sarcastic about your sources. ;)

Regarding your statement of Thibodeau being a better coach than Carlisle, I can only strongly disagree. Carlisle is a coaching mastermind. He's great at preparing his team for its opponent while his biggest strength is his ability to adjust on the fly. All these comeback victories the Mavs had were not just a coincidence of shots falling. He developed quick plays which exploited the other team's strategy and confused the opposing team's coach. While Carlisle exploited our defense beautifully and found a good defensive strategy despite not having a team full of great defenders, Thibodeau ran against a brick wall, trying to force his team into the same stuff over and over again.

Thibodeau is a good coach, but Carlisle is among the three best in the league.

Good Coaches make bad or average teams better Carlisle has never really done that if you want we can start another thread on that. Carlisle is a good coach don' get me wrong but Thibs is more defensive minded and offensive too HE IS BETTER :) facts for the progression of team from last season to this season prove it. Dallas should have not won last year it was a miracle everyone knows that. They had veterans, the depth and Tyson Chandler on D in the middle lets see what they can do this year. Carlisle did a great job for sure but i would take Thibs. Boston won championship few years ago not really because of Doc Rivers was mostly because of Thibs. Doc Rivers is good coach too for sure but Thibs made that defense what it still is today. Boston are older & slower and still have the 3rd best defense in league today. Last year Carlisle had the supporting cast to get it done THE TALENT & DEPTH. We still should have won last year with the TALENT WE HAD & STILL HAVE even Carlisle said he made adjustments when Spo did not and thats how they beat us :)


Umm no, Dallas had so many great open looks against us, it was mind-numbing. Game 2 was an outstanding coaching performance by Carlise, who had a couple of relatively simple but efficient plays that killed us down the stretch, while he was smart enough to run a zone, knowing he didn't have enough good 1-on-1 defenders to check us, while also using Tyson Chandler's ability to protect the basket in a zone, which ultimately forced us into taking bad outside shots. Thibodeau, on the other hand, continued to run into a brick wall against us and lived off of his team's advantage on the offensive glass.

Also, how has Carlisle not made his teams better? By having 50+ win seasons in 6 of 10 years in the league? By having the 6th best defense in the league despite losing his defensive anchor and not having too many great defensive players on his squad this year? Please, don't be stupid.
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Re: Thibodeau upset with Chicago, next season with Heat ? 

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Re: Thibodeau upset with Chicago, next season with Heat ? 

Post#53 » by pirate_pr » Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:59 pm

Lets see what Dallas does this season then we can talk. Chicago's biggest advantage is that they kill you on glass they played to their strength. If Boozer would have been the 20 /10 guy for Chicago last season who knows what might of happened but Boozer is inconsistent. Like our advantage is speed & defense for fast break transition buckets. In a series us against the Bulls it will come down to who will play better Bosh or Boozer in general the PF position. CHAMPIONSHIP BBALL IS WON IN THE PAINT. If we can beat them like we did last year Bosh/Haslem have to REBOUND & play at that level again. Turiaf has to focus on that too all our centers on winning the paint. If we do not do that we could be in trouble. A healthy Rip Hamilton can be a factor too unless we throw Battier at him more on D so Wade dont have to chase him always. Carlisle with his past teams Detroit & Indiana were never big time contenders. Thibs got the Bulls last year into the ECF his first year there and this year they are better. Thibs was part of championship coaching staff with Boston few years ago and main reason Boston won it if you ask me for their DEFENSE. Thibs was coach of year first year coaching too. Carlisle last year got lucky we did not do what we had to do strategy wise and play to our capacity.
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Re: Thibodeau upset with Chicago, next season with Heat ? 

Post#54 » by Grifin32 » Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:08 pm

April fools?
"But Olajuwon still believes James, 27, is just scratching the surface."
Enough said
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Re: Thibodeau upset with Chicago, next season with Heat ? 

Post#55 » by pirate_pr » Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:11 pm

Grifin32 wrote:April fools?

lol good one thats tomorrow lol :)

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