Game Thread Wiz vs DET 7:30 4/5 Welcome Home Mr Singleton

[miller31time]

Then take away the points. He still had double-digit assists, good rebounding numbers and (as you alluded to) low turnovers.

The reason he got those assists, for the main part, was because Detroit closed up the lanes those trucks were driving through. When the lanes were shut down, he made the appropriate, smart and sensible decision to draw the attention of the defense and kick it out to an open shooter. Mason feasted off Wall's passing.

And Wall did this with a team that really didn't shoot too well. Mack missed 2 wide open jumpers off of beautiful Wall dishes. Seraphin blew a wide-open ally-op off of a perfect Wall pass. He also got a hard-earned 3pt play taken away from him because of a terrible call from the refs.

i already noted wall's excellent passing multiple times in this thread so far. and specifically already noted that botched alley by seraphin that was a beautiful pass.

i also said wall played a very good game. just saying, it was against b-knight and the pistons. don't wanna get too overly excited about this performance but it was very good.

I was just addressing that particular post, not your overall input. The particular post, in my opinion, oversimplified Wall's game today. Yes, they allowed him easy access to the basket but it's not like every opposing point guard has a field day on them. It takes the ability to (under control) drive through and make the shot. Then, when they shut down the lane, he made the appropriate plays to find teammates. It was a very good game from John. That's all I'm saying. Would he have had almost 30/10 against the Bulls or Celtics? Probably not but we aren't talking in theory here.

I'm not trying to nit-pick, ST21. Just want to think on the positive side for a change (I'm hopelessly negative in general).

[miller31time]

Not to nip pick but that was not a nearly a perfect pass to KS on the oop. Actually Wall missed passed one to him last game also but KS fit that issue by grabbing it left handed and steering it in.

But wall had some nice oop passes from the FT line today. One to Ves was very nice.

Maybe I'm mis-remembering but so far, I'm not the only one who noted that it was a pin-point pass and a blown finish by Kevin.

I have no idea about the last game. I was working while it was on.

[Knighthonor]

I miss our team being good. Haywood, Butler, Stevenson, (All Rings) and Zero. I miss the days of hope.

Why were they traded away in the first place?

[hands11]

I miss our team being good. Haywood, Butler, Stevenson, (All Rings) and Zero. I miss the days of hope.

Why were they traded away in the first place?

I believe it was to get under the cap largely created by Gils contract.

Also the team was going to get sold so they wanted to clear out the old and start over.

But I always thought they could have rebuilt while keeping Haywood and Butler. But at the time, signing Haywood would put them even more over the cap making each dollar cost more then a dollar on a loosing product.

So it was a combination of things.

[Higga]

So wait, when Wall is bad, it's because he's terrible, but when he plays well and gets a double double, it's because the defense sucks. WOW!!!

Yep that's the logic of a budget fan...

[Ed Wood]

Also Stevenson was execrable for a significant portion of his time in DC and the fact that anyone could be even mildly nostalgic for the guy profoundly challenges my understanding of pleasure, pain and the human condition.

[miller31time]

Also Stevenson was execrable for a significant portion of his time in DC and the fact that anyone could be even mildly nostalgic for the guy profoundly challenges my understanding of pleasure, pain and the human condition.

Every day being a Wizards fan doesn't do the same?

[Ed Wood]

Every day being a Wizards fan doesn't do the same?

I leave Sisyphus at the foot of the mountain! One always finds one's burden again. But Sisyphus teaches the higher fidelity that negates the gods and raises rocks. He too concludes that all is well. This universe henceforth without a master seems to him neither sterile nor futile. Each atom of that stone, each mineral flake of that night filled mountain, in itself forms a world. The struggle itself toward the heights is enough to fill a man's heart. One must imagine Sisyphus happy.

[miller31time]

Every day being a Wizards fan doesn't do the same?

I leave Sisyphus at the foot of the mountain! One always finds one's burden again. But Sisyphus teaches the higher fidelity that negates the gods and raises rocks. He too concludes that all is well. This universe henceforth without a master seems to him neither sterile nor futile. Each atom of that stone, each mineral flake of that night filled mountain, in itself forms a world. The struggle itself toward the heights is enough to fill a man's heart. One must imagine Sisyphus happy.

One would imagine Sisyphus finding this particular mountain a bit much.

[Ed Wood]

I'm simply indicating that watching DeShawn was a plague, even by Wizard standards and that missing the guy is just stranger than I'm used to, I'm not on trial here. Get off my back dad, Godot.

[jivelikenice]

I hope Wall shut you wall bashers up tonight

like i said earlier, he had a good game but in my opinion it was largely in part to the pistons terrible defense. they were letting wall drive to the lane at will. you could have driven a truck through those lanes. but kudos to wall for seeing it and taking advantage of it. his jumper was still terrible but at least he kept his to's relatively low and made excellent passes. overall very good game but let's see if he can get back on a hot streak or if it was just a fluke thing because he was being guarded by b-knight and the pistons.

LOL...If he gets heat in bad games he should get credit for good games. Guy can't win on this board. I bet if Kyrie had 28 & 10 versus the Pistons the Amazingly Suck John Wall thread would get bumped.

[jivelikenice]

So wait, when Wall is bad, it's because he's terrible, but when he plays well and gets a double double, it's because the defense sucks. WOW!!!

No consistency here..LOL

Where's JJ? Come on dude, I show when he has a bad game....

Btw, does this game not somewhat serve as evidence of the point many have been making about Crawford's negative impact on Wall? It is NOT coincidence that Wall had his best game in 2 weeks on a night where Jordan got in foul trouble early and did not get into HIS type of game. You surround Wall with players like Mason & Martin who pose the threat of an outside shot and the floor opens up. It also allowed Wall to get involved early which is key to keeping him mentally in the game.

And Wall was called selfish and people called out his ego numerous times last night. How come it doesn't come up with Crawford? His hero ball airball 3 w/ us down 5 & a minute to go was inexcusable but there's no ego there...

In the future the shooters we surround Wall with have to be dual threats for the team to take the next step. I'm not huge on Beal but he would be a good fit. I still prefer Davis, Robinson, and MKG to him though but it has to be addressed in the draft or in FA.

[DallasShalDune]

Here is where I lie with Wall: he can be a franchise PG of the Rondo persuasion. If we surround him with a competent starting line up, his PPG will lower and his FG% will go up. He will stop the hero ball. His APG will go up.

I'd agree he will never be as good as Chris Paul or Steve Nash, but he is not that sort of player. He is more like Rondo, but still with a higher ceiling. He can be a franchise player.

Tonight was encouraging.

[Illuminaire]

I agree, with the following caveat: if Wall develops a middling jumpshot and three point range, that changes everything.

That is, alas, an if.

[DallasShalDune]

I agree, with the following caveat: if Wall develops a middling jumpshot and three point range, that changes everything.

That is, alas, an if.

A big if, but man would it be sweet.

And not outside the realm of possibility.

[jivelikenice]

I agree, with the following caveat: if Wall develops a middling jumpshot and three point range, that changes everything.

That is, alas, an if.

I don't think a 3 is necessary. A consistent mid-range shot is vital and if he can consistently shoot like he did in February it would go a long way. A 3 is dangerous. Once guys get some level of confidence in that shot they shoot more than they should. EVen if John got better w/ that shot I wouldn't want him taking more than 1-2 max per game.

[dobrojim]

the DVR missed this game so I didn't watch which kinda sounds
just as well since the refs were driving our tank from the sounds
of it.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Same here. I just forgot to set the DVR, jim

Maybe I shouldn't watch tonight either, since Wall played well. I actually expected a good game from Wall. He might benefit from added motivation from haters.

On the shelves in the 4/2 Sports Illustrated, Chris Mannix ripped Wall's game. A damning comment was from some opposing scout who claimed Wall used to have a great work ethic at Kentucky but doesn't any more.

I don't know about that.