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Re: Free Agents Thread 

Post#1481 » by Ruzious » Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:59 pm

verbal8 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:82games.com has been a bad source for what positions players play. I know with the Wiz - they've consistently screwed that up.


Is there a good source?

Looking at box scores for his most recent games, it looks like he is playing with Beasley a good amount. If you had to assign them positions I would say Beasley is more a 3 and Randolph more a 4.

I think you're probably right - as Beasley shoots some 3's, and Randolph blocks more shots and rebounds better. My gut feeling is - Randolph is too skinny to hold up at the 4 and 5 full-time, and if he worked real hard, he might be able to play the 3 and be really good.

And Beasley's one of those guys that can put up numbers and do a lot of things - but just doesn't do them efficiently enough to help his team. Hopefully, Derrick Williams doesn't become Beasley - and he shouldn't, because he's more talented.
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Re: Free Agents Thread 

Post#1482 » by hands11 » Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:18 am

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... th_Celtics

:D :D

I know it is a long shot to get him but I just like to dream about it. I am a fan of what Mason did for this them this year and would easily invite him back, but if you can get Ray Ray to guild your young guards forward for 2 years, I'm in for that big time.

Ray, Crawford, Beal, Almond.

Maybe Ray can teach Crawford how to shoot the 3 ball and tutor Beal who is said to have Ray Ray potential. Beal is a young man so no reason to force feed him the NBA experience. You can bring him along.

Ahhh. Nice :D
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Post#1483 » by Ed Wood » Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:05 am

Ladies and gentlemen I'm here today to talk to you about a very special opportunity. Here today I am selling to you a very special player hot off of a fine season in the Chinese Basketball Association. With such CBA success stories as Cartier Martin, James Singleton, Wilson Chandler, Lester Hudson, Gerald Green and Jamal Crawford fresh in your minds I'm sure you're quite ready to accept that if a player was just stupid good in that league he probably has a place in the NBA.

Take Martin, 26.3 points, 4.7 rebounds, 1.6 assists in 34 minutes a game on 49.6 percent from two, 37 percent from 3 and 81.7 percent at the line. Why, that's quite a fine line there, and he looks like a viable NBA player.

Or Singleton, 17.8 points, 11.9 rebounds and 1 block per game in 31.4 minutes on 57.6 percent from the field and 76.6 percent from the line. Quite a lot to like there, and he's looking NBA caliber as well

How about a well established player, maybe Kenyon Martin. 13.9 points, 9.7 rebounds and 1.8 assist in 29.9 minutes on 52.1 from two and 61.3 from the line. That's not even especially overwhelming.

And finally the sought after Chandler, how did he fare? 26.6 points, 11.6 rebounds, 2.3 assists in 34.6 minutes per game on 51.4 percent from the field, 29.1 percent from three and 76.3 percent from the line.

What I mean to convey to you is that if a player is really phenomenally, overwhelmingly, disgustingly good in the CBA that player is probably an NBA player. Therefore, consider the following:

(in 35.3 minutes per game) 32.0 points, 5.1 rebounds, 3.7 assists on 61.6 percent from two, 61.9 percent from three and 87.6 percent from the line, in 40 games.

That would be Marcus Williams. No no no, not that one, the good one. Williams was a second round pick of the Spurs in the 2007 draft, 33rd overall and I looooved him coming out of college. He played collegiality at Arizona and remains, at 25 years old, 6'7" tall. He was previously excellent in parts of two seasons in the D League. I like to dick around with obscure international free agents who might be NBA players if given the chance but Williams is my Moby Dick, my Beatrice, my Lolita, my Morris Almond. Marcus Williams is an NBA player, I would prefer that he be such here.
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Re: Free Agents Thread 

Post#1484 » by hands11 » Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:35 am

Ed Wood wrote:Ladies and gentlemen I'm here today to talk to you about a very special opportunity. Here today I am selling to you a very special player hot off of a fine season in the Chinese Basketball Association. With such CBA success stories as Cartier Martin, James Singleton, Wilson Chandler, Lester Hudson, Gerald Green and Jamal Crawford fresh in your minds I'm sure you're quite ready to accept that if a player was just stupid good in that league he probably has a place in the NBA.

Take Martin, 26.3 points, 4.7 rebounds, 1.6 assists in 34 minutes a game on 49.6 percent from two, 37 percent from 3 and 81.7 percent at the line. Why, that's quite a fine line there, and he looks like a viable NBA player.

Or Singleton, 17.8 points, 11.9 rebounds and 1 block per game in 31.4 minutes on 57.6 percent from the field and 76.6 percent from the line. Quite a lot to like there, and he's looking NBA caliber as well

How about a well established player, maybe Kenyon Martin. 13.9 points, 9.7 rebounds and 1.8 assist in 29.9 minutes on 52.1 from two and 61.3 from the line. That's not even especially overwhelming.

And finally the sought after Chandler, how did he fare? 26.6 points, 11.6 rebounds, 2.3 assists in 34.6 minutes per game on 51.4 percent from the field, 29.1 percent from three and 76.3 percent from the line.

What I mean to convey to you is that if a player is really phenomenally, overwhelmingly, disgustingly good in the CBA that player is probably an NBA player. Therefore, consider the following:

(in 35.3 minutes per game) 32.0 points, 5.1 rebounds, 3.7 assists on 61.6 percent from two, 61.9 percent from three and 87.6 percent from the line, in 40 games.

That would be Marcus Williams. No no no, not that one, the good one. Williams was a second round pick of the Spurs in the 2007 draft, 33rd overall and I looooved him coming out of college. He played collegiality at Arizona and remains, at 25 years old, 6'7" tall. He was previously excellent in parts of two seasons in the D League. I like to dick around with obscure international free agents who might be NBA players if given the chance but Williams is my Moby Dick, my Beatrice, my Lolita, my Morris Almond. Marcus Williams is an NBA player, I would prefer that he be such here.


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Re: Free Agents Thread 

Post#1485 » by theboomking » Sun Apr 22, 2012 5:04 pm

Assuming we miss out on the 1st overall pick in this draft, we are likely going to be choosing between Beal and Gilchrist. If we draft Gilchrist, we will need shooters at PF and SG. If we play our cards right with Blatche and Lewis, can we afford Anderson this year and Harden next year? Would the following lineup even be worth the monetary investment?

Nene/Seraphin
Anderson
Gilchrist
Harden
Wall

I see that as a good, but not elite team. Short of winning the lotto, which is unlikely, i have a difficult time seeing the path to becoming a championship caliber team. If we wind up with Beal, we're left with

Nene/Seraphin
Booker/Vesely
Singleton/?
Beal
Wall

That team is still playing 3.5-4 on 5 basketball without a high quality starter at PF and SF.
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Re: Free Agents Thread 

Post#1486 » by nate33 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 5:54 pm

theboomking wrote:Assuming we miss out on the 1st overall pick in this draft, we are likely going to be choosing between Beal and Gilchrist. If we draft Gilchrist, we will need shooters at PF and SG. If we play our cards right with Blatche and Lewis, can we afford Anderson this year and Harden next year? Would the following lineup even be worth the monetary investment?

Nene/Seraphin
Anderson
Gilchrist
Harden
Wall

I assume you mean Ryan Anderson of Orlando? The answer to your question is "No". We cannot afford Ryan Anderson this summer and Harden next summer. In order to afford Harden next summer, whatever free agent we sign this summer can't cost more than about $5M in 2013/14. Ryan Anderson will cost more than that.

Also, I'm no longer quite as enthusiastic about Ryan Anderson. Watching the decline in his production with Howard out has been a real eye opener. Anderson posted a TS% of 61% from the start of the season through March. In April, without Howard, his TS% his 50.2%. The guy goes from elite to awful depending on whether Howard is alongside him.

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