hey, at least we arent the bobcats - the other teams thread

Benjamin Linus · Post #501 » by **Benjamin Linus** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:16 pm

Yeah, regardless of how it may be view judicially or by the league, from a human standpoint / realistic perspective it was a piece of **** move by MWP. Players just don't do that. Even if someone like Durant would done the exact same thing (which he wouldn't have) it would have still been incredibly messed up.

captaincrunk · Post #502 » by **captaincrunk** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:19 pm

Benjamin Linus wrote:Yeah, regardless of how it may be view judicially or by the league, from a human standpoint / realistic perspective it was a piece of **** move by MWP. Players just don't do that. Even if someone like Durant would done the exact same thing (which he wouldn't have) it would have still been incredibly messed up.

That's what I'm talking about. It's ignorance like this that has me so peeved.

Stop the name calling Crunk

Benjamin Linus · Post #503 » by **Benjamin Linus** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:24 pm

I'm assuming you misread my post. Even if you take MWP's past out of the equation, his action today was completely unacceptable and I even went on to point out that if Durant would have done the same thing, I would have felt the exact same way.

SWedd523 · Post #504 » by **SWedd523** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:25 pm

SWedd523 wrote:he pulled a standing people's elbow on Harden.

Sachmo wrote:gotta be impressed with how quickly these are made.

The Peoples Elbow!

Where's my royalty check?

captaincrunk · Post #505 » by **captaincrunk** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:34 pm

Benjamin Linus wrote:I'm assuming you misread my post. Even if you take MWP's past out of the equation, his action today was completely unacceptable and I even went on to point out that if Durant would have done the same thing, I would have felt the exact same way.

I'm assuming you misread my post. I'm saying that you're judging MWP as a piece of ****. That's what I'm talking about. It's ignorance like this that has me so peeved.

Benjamin Linus · Post #506 » by **Benjamin Linus** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:40 pm

Right. You still totally missed my point. Regardless, this is too silly to get into.

Post #507 » by **fatlever** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:46 pm

crunk are you arguing that people are overblowing this incident because its artest?

captaincrunk · Post #508 » by **captaincrunk** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:05 am

Benjamin Linus wrote:Right. You still totally missed my point. Regardless, this is too silly to get into.

No, I didn't miss your point. I think your point is crap! Yes, you're not supposed to hit people in the face. We get that. You're no Kant, you're not blowing any minds here. This isn't about Artest's past. If Durant had been the one to do it and you said the same twattle I'd give you the same response with some different names.

TheKingofSting · Post #509 » by **TheKingofSting** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:09 am

captaincrunk wrote:Well read the post I made in response to SWeed's anecdote about being frustrated in basketball. Compare that to the accusations that Metta World Peace is a "thug". That's completely baseless and unfair to a guy who has worked pretty hard to get on the right track.

Any "hard work" he put in to better his imagine is gone now with one split second of stupidity.

Post #510 » by **fatlever** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:16 am

so what is your point crunk? i still have no clue what you are arguing about.

captaincrunk · Post #511 » by **captaincrunk** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:17 am

Kemba2Hendo wrote:
captaincrunk wrote:Well read the post I made in response to SWeed's anecdote about being frustrated in basketball. Compare that to the accusations that Metta World Peace is a "thug". That's completely baseless and unfair to a guy who has worked pretty hard to get on the right track.

Any "hard work" he put in to better his imagine is gone now with one split second of stupidity.

Which is, as I stated, "completely baseless and unfair".

Post #512 » by **fatlever** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:22 am

may be unfair, but thats life. sometimes it only takes one stupid mistake.

its not much worse than what bynum did to wallace and barea and nobody is talking about that now. its artest, so it will take longer for the media to move on. and leading into the playoffs it will get more attention than normal.

TheKingofSting · Post #513 » by **TheKingofSting** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:25 am

captaincrunk wrote:
Kemba2Hendo wrote:
captaincrunk wrote:Well read the post I made in response to SWeed's anecdote about being frustrated in basketball. Compare that to the accusations that Metta World Peace is a "thug". That's completely baseless and unfair to a guy who has worked pretty hard to get on the right track.

Any "hard work" he put in to better his imagine is gone now with one split second of stupidity.

Which is, as I stated, "completely baseless and unfair".

Not any more unfair than Harden standing their minding his own business and getting his head knocked off by a UFC move.

captaincrunk · Post #514 » by **captaincrunk** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:18 am

fatlever wrote:may be unfair, but thats life. sometimes it only takes one stupid mistake.

Uhh, you get to decide how you judge him. Don't put this on the "other", on some "fate" or "life" you're not in control of.

fatlever wrote:its not much worse than what bynum did to wallace and barea

It's much less worse than what Bynum did to barea, which was clearly a frustration foul intended to cause pain.

LamarMatic7 · Post #515 » by **LamarMatic7** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:18 pm

This **** dude... He finally had got into great shape and was playing like the Ron Artest of old, but he has to **** everything up with an unnecessary elbow. It looks bad as hell and I even wouldn't be surprised if he was disqualified from the rest of the season. I hope he doesn't ruin one of Kobe's last chances at a ring. When will this nucleus ever have a better chance than during an "everything can happen" lockout season!?

On the bright side though, too bad that Stephen Jackson and a cup of beer weren't involved somehow. This could have been fun.

Kembastockton · Post #516 » by **Kembastockton** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:45 pm

captaincrunk wrote:
fatlever wrote:may be unfair, but thats life. sometimes it only takes one stupid mistake.

Uhh, you get to decide how you judge him. Don't put this on the "other", on some "fate" or "life" you're not in control of.
fatlever wrote:its not much worse than what bynum did to wallace and barea

It's much less worse than what Bynum did to barea, which was clearly a frustration foul intended to cause pain.

Captaincrunk, there seems to be a couple things that you are overlooking.
1. The so-called celebration was Metta jumping up and down beating his chest. He was not swinging his elbows from side to side.
2. James was not behind Metta. They collided almost face to face before the elbow was thrown, so even if he did not see James he had to feel the collision.
3. Metta drew his elbow back, swung, and followed through. He was obviously trying to hit whoever collided with him.
4. His elbow hit James's skull. That tends to sting a little bit. Yet he played clueless like he had know idea what had happened. Really?

captaincrunk · Post #517 » by **captaincrunk** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:16 pm

DJQuick wrote:
captaincrunk wrote:
fatlever wrote:may be unfair, but thats life. sometimes it only takes one stupid mistake.

Uhh, you get to decide how you judge him. Don't put this on the "other", on some "fate" or "life" you're not in control of.
fatlever wrote:its not much worse than what bynum did to wallace and barea

It's much less worse than what Bynum did to barea, which was clearly a frustration foul intended to cause pain.

Captaincrunk, there seems to be a couple things that you are overlooking.
1. The so-called celebration was Metta jumping up and down beating his chest. He was not swinging his elbows from side to side.

Uhh, obviously not overlooking since that's what we've been talking about this whole time. And how it turns out that he could have done it anyway.

DJQuick wrote:2. James was not behind Metta. They collided almost face to face before the elbow was thrown, so even if he did not see James he had to feel the collision.

Just... no...

DJQuick wrote:3. Metta drew his elbow back, swung, and followed through. He was obviously trying to hit whoever collided with him.
4. His elbow hit James's skull. That tends to sting a little bit. Yet he played clueless like he had know idea what had happened. Really?

Look, you're just repeating the same old ****. Don't bother saying the same things everyone else has said and been debunked on because it's a waste of everyone's time. Much like this entire conversation.

penquin11 · Post #518 » by **penquin11** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:02 pm

Given how brutal the elbow was, and the fact that Ron Artest is not a scumbag.... I find it hard to believe that he did it on purpose- hes smarter than that. That stated, the tape makes it pretty hard to deny that it was anything but on purpose...

SWedd523 · Post #519 » by **SWedd523** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:50 pm

debunked on? No.

_tijo_ · Post #520 » by **_tijo_** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:02 pm

The thing with Artest is that I think he really honestly thought that if he did it in the context of "celebrating" that people would actually think it was an accident. It's like he doesn't know cameras exist and replay exists. We can see you Ron. We can see what you're doing and just because you pound your chest doesn't make your actions not pre-meditated and malicious with intent to hurt someone else. We're not stupid, and you really can't fool millions of people watching a replay.

It's like he's 5 years old in his thought process. It's uncanny...