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Re: Amar'e going back to college 

Post#81 » by Thugger HBC » Wed May 16, 2012 12:32 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:You're going far over the edge with this one.


No Thugger, I'm just very skeptical of his ability to have a full schedule that is responsibly aligned with the obligations he is paid $55,000 a day 365 days a year to fulfill. I do not believe he is serious enough. It is not about fitness alone, but really learning how to play differently on two levels. On the first level, he needs to develop moves that do not require the same athleticism he depended on earlier in his career. On the second level, he needs to learn actual game strategy and how to play defense. He is a very ignorant player for someone of his supposed value. I don't believe this ignorance can be be dispelled so easily while he manages various activities and business interests. I think he needs a very intensive immersion in basketball re-education, something I see most here think is as easy as pie and he can manage just fine which I do not. You're overestimating his ability to change. Sorry, not going overboard. I will remain deeply skeptical of his ability to handle any additional course loads until he proves otherwise.

I have those doubts of him being better whether he goes to school or not.

He isn't one of those players who improves his game to become a better player.

He only improve in areas that can extend his shelf life on the court.

But these course are not gonna prevent him from doing any of it.

His desire will.
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Re: Amar'e going back to college 

Post#82 » by ibraheim718 » Wed May 16, 2012 12:39 am

It's water under the bridge with me and I slammed him all season. Last season is over... we're not trading him for we could never get equal value. Guy had a tough year.. he deserves to enjoy his time off.. he clocked out already... let him do what he wants. And if he doesn't do the right things to help his game he's going to be the one to bear the brunt of it.. not anyone on here.
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Re: Amar'e going back to college 

Post#83 » by elliotquine » Wed May 16, 2012 12:41 am

What is Amare majoring in? Philosophy?

"If I play 40 minutes and do not have a rebound, will MSG makes a sound?" The questions of life...
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Re: Amar'e going back to college 

Post#84 » by Clyde_Style » Wed May 16, 2012 12:51 am

If a rebound goes unclaimed, did the ball's reboundableness ever truly exist or is it merely a deficiency of the agent who did not actualize it?
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Re: Amar'e going back to college 

Post#85 » by elliotquine » Wed May 16, 2012 12:53 am

Clyde_Style wrote:If a rebound goes unclaimed, did the ball's reboundableness ever truly exist or is it merely a deficiency of the agent who did not actualize it?


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Re: Amar'e going back to college 

Post#86 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Wed May 16, 2012 12:57 am

elliotquine wrote:What is Amare majoring in? Philosophy?

"If I play 40 minutes and do not have a rebound, will MSG makes a sound?" The questions of life...


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Clyde_Style wrote:If a rebound goes unclaimed, did the ball's reboundableness ever truly exist or is it merely a deficiency of the agent who did not actualize it?


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Post#87 » by kane2021 » Wed May 16, 2012 12:58 am

I think the issue for some is he spent last season doing things like this. And proudly put it out there for all to see. One day his back hurts. The next its ok. He ran his mouth about this camp. But put it off until the lock out ended. So no one showed up.

He comes into the season out of shape and uninspired. This is before tragedy and injury. We made excuses for him. Sympathized with him. He continued to play like a person who would only jump when he felt like it.

Then he almost cut his hand off. He apologizes on twitter. Then 2 days later blows it off publicly like "**** happens"

Amare has been sheltered by many because of his willingness to come here. But he aint been the same player. And its by a sizable margin. And it seems to be more mental than physical. He came back and had his best game of the season maybe with one hand. So we cant say his body is not responding.

So that leads one to question. Was he motivated to play hard because he hurt his image? And is that what this off season stuff is about? His image? Sometimes I fear that he is his own biggest fan. I dont see him as a major star personally.

I think we have given him the benefit of the doubt. I still think hes a good guy. In my eyes now he has to earn some of the respect back that he lost.

We are not going to win a playoff series with amare playing the role of a passive jump shooter who turns his back on the ball defensively. And only puts his hands up to rebound to protect his face.

I think most fans are more interested in seeing him snap out of this funk. Well if this is how he is going to do it then fine. But listen. This guys got to prove something now. We gave him 100 mil. Guaranteed. We got a half a season out of him. And even then we was not really winning.

I would love nothing more than for stat to come out and make me feel foolish for thinking this way. Cant argue with angry fans no more about stat. Dudes got to come with it. Or we looking at years of misery again.
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Re: Amar'e going back to college 

Post#88 » by kane2021 » Wed May 16, 2012 1:01 am

Clyde_Style wrote:If a rebound goes unclaimed, did the ball's reboundableness ever truly exist or is it merely a deficiency of the agent who did not actualize it?

Wow. This is gold right here. :lol:
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Re: Amar'e going back to college 

Post#89 » by Clyde_Style » Wed May 16, 2012 2:14 am

kane2021 wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:If a rebound goes unclaimed, did the ball's reboundableness ever truly exist or is it merely a deficiency of the agent who did not actualize it?

Wow. This is gold right here. :lol:


Ah, well, it all harkens back to the classic question:

If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_a_tree_ ... n_a_forest
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Re: Amar'e going back to college 

Post#90 » by Zubby » Wed May 16, 2012 2:44 am

Lmao at this thread.... pathetic

Full of learning defense and rebound jokes, lame.

and at least 50 mentions of "$55,000, 365 days a year"


WTF yall mad about damn, bball isn't that serious, Amare can't stay in a gym boxing out til he cough up blood, wtf yall want from him.
You don't put up his career numbers without puttin in work unless you're Tracy McGrady or Vince Carter
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Re: Amar'e going back to college 

Post#91 » by Clyde_Style » Wed May 16, 2012 2:49 am

Z3snap wrote:Lmao at this thread.... pathetic

Full of learning defense and rebound jokes, lame.

and at least 50 mentions of "$55,000, 365 days a year"


WTF yall mad about damn, bball isn't that serious, Amare can't stay in a gym boxing out til he cough up blood, wtf yall want from him.
You don't put up his career numbers without puttin in work unless you're Tracy McGrady or Vince Carter


Well, it is always better to jump into the middle of a thread to mock the posters while lacking anything to contribute yourself.
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Re: Amar'e going back to college 

Post#92 » by Zubby » Wed May 16, 2012 2:56 am

I contributed my opinion like you and everybody else who posted here. No better, no worse.
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Re: Amar'e going back to college 

Post#93 » by Clyde_Style » Wed May 16, 2012 3:00 am

Z3snap wrote:I contributed my opinion like you and everybody else who posted here. No better, no worse.


I see. So your contribution is to say others are pathetic and lame posters. Got it.
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Re: Amar'e going back to college 

Post#94 » by TKKnicks1 » Wed May 16, 2012 3:05 am

I am not sure how old this article is but here was an example of Amare's off season --


3 NBA Players Share Their Offseason Schedule
By Alan Stein, CCS, CSCS, StrongerTeam.com


Amar'e Stoudemire of the New York Knicks, Andre Iguodala of the Philadelphia 76ers, and Deron Williams of the New Jersey Nets are NBA All-Stars and three of the top players in the league. Each is committed to working extremely hard in the offseason.

Alan Stein of StrongerTeam.com posed the question to all three of them: What does a typical day in your offseason consist of?

Here was their responses:


Amar'e Stoudemire:

I wake up at 8 a.m.
I eat breakfast, usually Granola and fruit.
I warm up, stretch, foam roll, do corrective exercises, core work, and lift heavy.
I go right to the court.
I start with inside work: jump hooks, baby hooks, short jumpers, and Mikan drill.
Then I move to perimeter stuff: ball handling series, face-up moves, game shooting.
I finish around noon (3-plus hours of intense work).
I don't play 5 on 5 in the off-season, but rather focus on my individual development.
I follow this schedule 5-6 days per week.


Full article: http://www.ihoops.com/training-room/str ... hedule.htm

We all know Amare has a great work ethic but it has yet to translate into what I personally think is the definition of a true PF. Even after 9 seasons and all his hard work, I see a player out there who at times lacks the fundamentals. He just does not fit in with this team. I truly hope he can because at the end of the day I am a Knicks fan and I have no personal agenda against any player.

And as far as the topic of the original post goes, I am happy for him. Education, no matter how little or great it is, always gives a good foundation and roots a person. He will come back a more mature individual if anything next year.
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Re: Amar'e going back to college 

Post#95 » by DRoberstonNYY » Wed May 16, 2012 3:07 am

think its pretty obvious. amare can't do more than 1 thing at once. it makes his brain hurt.

see: him trying to rebound and hedge a screen on the same possession

less time at GQ shoots amare, more watching tape. less blaming coaches from 10 yrs ago that you don't play defense, more accountability.

every time he opens his mouth, i lose more respect for him
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Re: Amar'e going back to college 

Post#96 » by Zubby » Wed May 16, 2012 3:14 am

lolz if you take it that way sure I guess.
The thread turned into a bunch of jokes on how he should take defense class. etc. one time ok haha funny... every other post, just beatin a dead horse.

Then you come along and keep reiterating the point about how much money a day he makes, means he should do nothing but work on bball... like he can't have a life.

Slavery ended a while ago bro.


Doing something like going to school isn't a major thing... its summer quarter, 10 weeks probably 2-3 classes a week.

Yea major time suck
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Re: Amar'e going back to college 

Post#97 » by johnnywishbone » Wed May 16, 2012 3:59 am

I just hope this is the jump the shark moment for all the amare hate around here.

The criticism is so unwarranted it just goes to show how petty people can get when they want everything to fit their narrative. What if he spends time on charity work? R u guys going to criticize him for that too?
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Re: Amar'e going back to college 

Post#98 » by ComboGuardCity » Wed May 16, 2012 4:10 am

"Amare journeys to Africa to feed millions of starving children"

RealGM Knicks fan: I hope he sends us a defensive PF and stays there.
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Re: Amar'e going back to college 

Post#99 » by Clyde_Style » Wed May 16, 2012 4:15 am

ComboGuardCity wrote:"Amare journeys to Africa to feed millions of starving children"

RealGM Knicks fan: I hope he sends us a defensive PF and stays there.


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Amar'e going back to college 

Post#100 » by Knicks_Fan2 » Wed May 16, 2012 4:26 am

ComboGuardCity wrote:"Amare journeys to Africa to feed millions of starving children"

RealGM Knicks fan: I hope he sends us a defensive PF and stays there.


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