"I'm still on the Derrick Williams bandwagon" thread

[Klomp]

ding ding ding we have a winner. i like how he gives us depth but if we could land a name like tyreke evans or kemba walker, #offercantrefuse

Why would we want to trade for another PG?

[theGreatRC]

Especially Kemba Walker..

[southern wolf]

He has a future just not on this team. Also im not sure he can play SF full time even with a whole offseason working on becoming a SF

I'm in this camp. I think he'll always be at his best at PF.

[NewWolvesOrder]

I will side with the OP here. I would give DW another chance. He made a huge leap between 1st and 2nd years in college so I want to see what he can do this time. And if he drops his weight to 230 lbs or lower I can easily picture him as SF. I think it will improve him athleticism a great deal. I think that DW can reach the level of a guy like Granger and it's a realistic take.
I don't think playing for Adelman and behind Love was conductive to a good rookie campaign. Remember that young Gerald Wallace was a nobody for Adelman and established himself as a good player immediately after joining Charlotte. I also don't see another team giving up a lot for Williams, we can get an ok vet for him probably but it won't be enough to put us on the same level of talent as teams like OKC.

[mandurugo]

I still think he has a good chance of being a very good PF, but very little chance of becoming a SF. This means either he or Love should be traded, I'd be fine with either depending on what the wolves could get in return. Not much point in keeping them both though.

[PG24]

Since the #2 pick wasn't the answer let's pin our hopes on this years equivalent of Lazar Hayward.

Ok got it.

lol.

Derrick Williams was never the answer for Minnesota.

A year from now fans will be bitching how the Wolves should have taken Crowder when they had the chance.

He's gonna turn out to be stud in the NBA - moreso as the role playing type albeit, but a stud one nonetheless. I'll just leave it at that.

[Krapinsky]

Since the #2 pick wasn't the answer let's pin our hopes on this years equivalent of Lazar Hayward.

Ok got it.

lol.

Derrick Williams was never the answer for Minnesota.

A year from now fans will be bitching how the Wolves should have taken Crowder when they had the chance.

He's gonna turn out to be stud in the NBA - moreso as the role playing type albeit, but a stud one nonetheless. I'll just leave it at that.

Hey, I actually like him, I just don't think you can take any player at 18 in any draft and know he's going to be a long term solution.

[Klomp]

I just don't think you can take any player at 18 in any draft and know he's going to be a long term solution.

Which is why we should trade 18 for a veteran.

[Basti]

It's the most diplomatic answer one can give but I really want to keep him for at least another year unless we get an offer we simply can't refuse to take.

Give him a training camp and see what he can do once he's been a bit more familiar with the system Adelman usually runs. He looked lost on the court far too often which is a bad sign. Giving up the last two weeks was bad, too. However, I'd still give him a full training camp and at least until early/mid December before I'd actively try to trade him.

[Worm Guts]

I just don't think you can take any player at 18 in any draft and know he's going to be a long term solution.

Which is why we should trade 18 for a veteran.

I don't think you can assume anyone will be willing to trade a quality player for the 18th pick. And by quality, I mean solid rotation player.

[Worm Guts]

It's the most diplomatic answer one can give but I really want to keep him for at least another year unless we get an offer we simply can't refuse to take.

Give him a training camp and see what he can do once he's been a bit more familiar with the system Adelman usually runs. He looked lost on the court far too often which is a bad sign. Giving up the last two weeks was bad, too. However, I'd still give him a full training camp and at least until early/mid December before I'd actively try to trade him.

I would say Williams should be on the table in any trade talks, but I wouldn't trade him just to trade him.

[Basti]

Yeah, the don't trade him for the sake of trading part was what I was trying to say.

[Esohny]

I just don't think you can take any player at 18 in any draft and know he's going to be a long term solution.

Which is why we should trade 18 for a veteran.

I don't think you can assume anyone will be willing to trade a quality player for the 18th pick. And by quality, I mean solid rotation player.

Come on. I'm sure that there's some team willing to part with a disappointing former lottery pick with a history of back injuries.

[Swimmer]

Which is why we should trade 18 for a veteran.

I don't think you can assume anyone will be willing to trade a quality player for the 18th pick. And by quality, I mean solid rotation player.

Come on. I'm sure that there's some team willing to part with a disappointing former lottery pick with a history of back injuries.

But then wouldn't we need to also trade a serviceable role player who can be essentially waived for cap space??

[Devilzsidewalk]

dwill to philly, iggy to miami, pek to miami....wade to here

[KG_And1]

Not going to give up on the Wolves' highest draft pick ever.

He showed enough that he can certainly play SF. His youth and inexperience, mixed with an experienced, veteran coach in Adelman did not bode well for Williams' first season.

He will be alright.

[pumunga]

Why would we want to trade for another PG?

well , to me, its pretty evident that adelman likes a combo guard that can handle a ball, so basically just trying to think of those, got a little ahead of myself throwin a name like kemba out there tho

[Peezo]

We gave Beasley two years and I'm not mad at that, I'd like to see D Will get the same. Obviously we all would prefer that he were a legit 2 guard than the backup 4 that he currently is, but we have to be realistic. We aren't going to garner the player we are all envisioning for Dwill anyways, I'd much rather see if we can't make him a long-term 3. His value was higher before, but now he won't net a the player that we most need, so why not be the team to take a shot on his potential since his value is probably lower to other teams since they didn't drop a no. 2 overall on him.

Huge Marquette fan here -- I'd be furious with Jae in the first round at 18. He could be had at pick 40. He is has a strong chance to go undrafted after measuring in at 6"3 in socks. I get that he is the type of player who can make an impact off the bench, but I'd much rather we grab a goon at 18 like Fab Melo/Meyers Leonard because their type of size cannot be found around the range where Jae would still be available. Chief Crowder could be a nice player though (should be more impactful than Lazar).

And if we were going MU player, I'd rather see us draft Darius Johnson Odom. He is an undersized two guard but he can really score and has a 40 inch vertical. His ball handling, range, and finishing make him a likely gem for a team like us. I think he'll contribute a lot more than Jae in the pros.

[Klomp]

Huge Marquette fan here -- I'd be furious with Jae in the first round at 18. He could be had at pick 40. He is has a strong chance to go undrafted after measuring in at 6"3 in socks. I get that he is the type of player who can make an impact off the bench, but I'd much rather we grab a goon at 18 like Fab Melo/Meyers Leonard because their type of size cannot be found around the range where Jae would still be available. Chief Crowder could be a nice player though (should be more impactful than Lazar).

First off, it was closer to 6'4" than 6'3".

If Crowder is making the transition to shooting guard like he has said he wants to, that will not be a problem. Even at SF, I'd hardly call 6'5"/6'6" being a problem.