Lind Outright Waivers

[spykelee]

It's not completely outrageous, but it's a significant risk to assume the contract nonetheless; if a team took him today, they would be on the hook for $12.23m in guaranteed money. That's not a small sum when we're talking about a player who has posted -1 WAR over two-and-a-quarter seasons. He'll remain a Jay, methinks.

It is a significant risk, no doubt. I just don't think it's as shady as what either Wells or Rios where. Lind is a guy who in 3 different seasons has hit no less than 23 home runs, and 72 RBI's. I know the average and the advanced stats have been down, but even at that, the guy has still been productive. I think a fair amount of teams would look at him, and think that he may be a good hitter who just needs a change of scenery or a different approach/instruction etc. You see these kinds of things all the time. And 12.5 million for the next 2 and half years, considering what you may get should he bounce back... I think is a risk that some team out there is going to be willing to take. Time will tell I s'pose.

[Schad]

Even taking the good with the bad over Lind's career, you get a player who has averaged 0.88 WAR per 650 plate appearances (an approximation of a full season). Remove his one good season, and you have a player who -- over 2000 plate appearances -- is actually below replacement-level.

Simply put, that's not good enough for a wager of that size; Rios, for his woes, has averaged around 2.9 WAR per 650 PAs as a Jay, and Wells at 3.1. Both were awful bets, but both were incomparably superior to Lind.

[Hamyltowne]

Optioned to Vegas AND he's off the 40-man roster?

[spykelee]

Even taking the good with the bad over Lind's career, you get a player who has averaged 0.88 WAR per 650 plate appearances (an approximation of a full season). Remove his one good season, and you have a player who -- over 2000 plate appearances -- is actually below replacement-level.

Simply put, that's not good enough for a wager of that size; Rios, for his woes, has averaged around 2.9 WAR per 650 PAs as a Jay, and Wells at 3.1. Both were awful bets, but both were incomparably superior to Lind.

For Wells and Rios it's all proportionate though. Sure both where still relatively productive players but Wells is paid 21 million this season as an example. I don't know the figures off hand that the Angels and Sox took on, but compared to the return there getting it has to be negative value... Given baseball's egregious salaries, I just don't think teams will be that gun shy to take a chance on a guy who could potentially put up 30 jacks and 80+ RBI's. That kind of talent does not grow on tree's.

[spykelee]

Optioned to Vegas AND he's off the 40-man roster?

Welcome back Hamyltowne

[Hamyltowne]

Welcome back Hamyltowne

Thanks. Good to be back.

[polo007]

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/danny ... ht-waivers

A day after optioning Adam Lind to Triple-A, the Blue Jays put the struggling first baseman on outright waivers on Friday, a move that shows their frustration with him and one that would allow them to remove him from the 40-man major-league roster.

The Blue Jays didn't announce the move, but two major-league sources told CBSSports.com that Lind showed up on the waiver wire Friday.

Outright waivers are irrevocable, so if any team puts in a claim on Lind, the Blue Jays would lose him. But Lind's contract, which pays him $5 million this year and next year and includes three club options that guarantee him another $3.5 million, makes a claim fairly unlikely.

Lind, who is still just 28 years old, is only three years removed from a season where he hit .305 with 35 home runs and 114 RBI. His production fell off the next two seasons, and this year he was hitting .186 with just three home runs in 118 at-bats at the time he was sent down.

The move to option Lind to Triple-A was taken by some to mean that the team just wanted to see if he could figure things out. The move to put him on outright waivers suggests that the Blue Jays would simply prefer to be rid of him.

The Blue Jays have more roster moves coming, with Vladimir Guerrero expected to join the club as soon as he works himself into shape. Blue Jays people are telling friends with other teams that more moves are expected on Monday.

[polo007]

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_ba ... tatus.html

Quick note on Adam Lind. Appears to be some confusion on his status. The Blue Jays optioned Lind to Triple-A, and according to cbssports.com they put him on outright waivers. If a team claims him the Blue Jays cannot pull him back. A claim is unlikely because Lind is making $5 million this season and is due another $5 million in 2013 in addition to a $2 million buyout of a $7 million club option for 2014. The claiming club would be responsible for the remainder of the contract.

Lind’s name likely will be bandied about in the Marlins’ front office, but they don’t have an immediate interest in trying to acquire him. That could change if the Blue Jays released him, but they probably just want him off the 40-man roster and see if he finds his 2009 stroke in the minors. If the Blue Jays want to eat Lind’s remaining salary that possibly could entice the Marlins and a few other teams.

[Strav]

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_baseball_marlins/2012/05/report-miami-marlins-to-promote-donovan-solano-from-triple-a-adam-lind-status.html

Quick note on Adam Lind. Appears to be some confusion on his status. The Blue Jays optioned Lind to Triple-A, and according to cbssports.com they put him on outright waivers. If a team claims him the Blue Jays cannot pull him back. A claim is unlikely because Lind is making $5 million this season and is due another $5 million in 2013 in addition to a $2 million buyout of a $7 million club option for 2014. The claiming club would be responsible for the remainder of the contract.

Lind’s name likely will be bandied about in the Marlins’ front office, but they don’t have an immediate interest in trying to acquire him. That could change if the Blue Jays released him, but they probably just want him off the 40-man roster and see if he finds his 2009 stroke in the minors. If the Blue Jays want to eat Lind’s remaining salary that possibly could entice the Marlins and a few other teams.

speaking of the Marlins, they just optioned Sanchez (their starting 1B) to triple A.

[Al_Oliver]

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_baseball_marlins/2012/05/report-miami-marlins-to-promote-donovan-solano-from-triple-a-adam-lind-status.html

Quick note on Adam Lind. Appears to be some confusion on his status. The Blue Jays optioned Lind to Triple-A, and according to cbssports.com they put him on outright waivers. If a team claims him the Blue Jays cannot pull him back. A claim is unlikely because Lind is making $5 million this season and is due another $5 million in 2013 in addition to a $2 million buyout of a $7 million club option for 2014. The claiming club would be responsible for the remainder of the contract.

Lind’s name likely will be bandied about in the Marlins’ front office, but they don’t have an immediate interest in trying to acquire him. That could change if the Blue Jays released him, but they probably just want him off the 40-man roster and see if he finds his 2009 stroke in the minors. If the Blue Jays want to eat Lind’s remaining salary that possibly could entice the Marlins and a few other teams.

speaking of the Marlins, they just optioned Sanchez (their starting 1B) to triple A.

Sanchez or Morrison would be nice

[Schad]

For Wells and Rios it's all proportionate though. Sure both where still relatively productive players but Wells is paid 21 million this season as an example. I don't know the figures off hand that the Angels and Sox took on, but compared to the return there getting it has to be negative value... Given baseball's egregious salaries, I just don't think teams will be that gun shy to take a chance on a guy who could potentially put up 30 jacks and 80+ RBI's. That kind of talent does not grow on tree's.

The 30 HR/80 RBI plateau really misses the mark though, because Lind can hit home runs while being otherwise extremely bad...doing so still leaves him as a pretty poor player. He hit 23 HRs and 72 RBI in 2010; most teams would have been better off with a minor leaguer in his stead. He hit 26 HRs and 87 RBI last year; he posted a lower WAR than John McDonald, of all people. He's trending toward a third straight year with an OBP below .300.

The odds that Lind -- who will be 29 mid-season -- can shake off years of suck to replicate his one decent season are getting slimmer by the day. A team might be desperate enough to take on that salary, but I highly doubt it...in all likelihood, we'll end up covering the tab for the vast majority of his remaining contract.

[CrookedJ]

Yeah at this point it looks like that 2009 season was the outlier, rather than his current endless slump.

[LBJSeizedMyID]

Could also see Milwaukee or the Indians putting a claim in.

[Geddy]

Maybe he can join Ovetbay and Hill and form Blue Jay Fodder NL

[Hamyltowne]

I remember reading that teams have three days to claim. If so, it's over for Lind.

[Hamyltowne]

I remember reading that teams have three days to claim. If so, it's over for Lind.

I guess so much for Wilner's source. Lind is not on waivers.

Contrary to a series of online reports last week, as of Wednesday there were no indications that the Blue Jays placed veteran first baseman Adam Lind on outright waivers.

Reports surfaced on May 18 that Lind had been placed on irrevocable waivers one day after being optioned to Triple-A Las Vegas. However, a baseball source on Wednesday said there is no evidence of that happening.

http://toronto.bluejays.mlb.com/news/ar ... r&c_id=tor

psshh. Figures.

[akakalakin]

so is dknobler the liar?