1st rd pick general discussion #2 overall (Poll Added)

Liver_Pooty · Post #181 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Thu May 31, 2012 2:51 am

So that "Scout" is just telling him what everyone already knows who paid attention to college basketball last year. He reminds me of Walker in that he has a good stroke, nice arc, and absolutely horrific footwork. No thanks

Badd_Intentions · Post #182 » by **Badd_Intentions** » Thu May 31, 2012 2:53 am

BigSlam wrote:After drafting Felton and May and them turning out to be busts how much crap would we eat if we drafted Barnes 2nd overall???

I don't want any part of this class of tarholes. I remember seeing a post on the facebook page where someone suggested we trade 2 for Portlands 6 and 11 and then take 2 of the 3 between Barnes/Marshall/Henson..UGH...just say no to the holes this year plz

Post #183 » by **Diop** » Thu May 31, 2012 2:56 am

hopefully, seeing the way we have approached the coaching vacancy, we will be just as thorough deciding our pick.

I think its the Cho influence that has made us increase the amount of groundwork we do before making a decision

NataFresh · Post #184 » by **NataFresh** » Thu May 31, 2012 3:00 am

Sachmo wrote:hopefully, seeing the way we have approached the coaching vacancy, we will be just as thorough deciding our pick.

I think its the Cho influence that has made us increase the amount of groundwork we do before making a decision

what scares me the most is how unattractive this job just got without Davis attached........

HuggyBear1688 · Post #185 » by **HuggyBear1688** » Thu May 31, 2012 3:01 am

screw you David "the crook" Stern may you rot in hades, what more proof is needed to see that the NBA is completely rigged from the front office of nba to the refs to the lottery, last year stern rewards the cavs with 2 top three picks for losing lebron, now stern sells the league owned hornets just weeks ago and hmm now they have the number 1 pick LMAO what a utter joke the NBA has become.

Geaux_Hawks · Post #186 » by **Geaux_Hawks** » Thu May 31, 2012 3:04 am

The best scenario would be trade witg Boston and Portland. Take 6 from Portland and give Boston 11 for both their picks. Then go with PJIII with 6, Royce White, and Dion Waiters.

debo23 · Post #187 » by **debo23** » Thu May 31, 2012 3:05 am

Sachmo wrote:hopefully, seeing the way we have approached the coaching vacancy, we will be just as thorough deciding our pick.

I think its the Cho influence that has made us increase the amount of groundwork we do before making a decision

Agree with you here... I think that's why Cho sounded so disappointed at the lottery, he was realizing that landing the 2nd pretty much assures that he's going to busy as hell leading up to the draft.

We're lucky to have Biz/Hendo to put prospects up against in camp which will quickly reveal how ready they are for the league

Jaruff · Post #188 » by **Jaruff** » Thu May 31, 2012 3:11 am

Friend just sent me a link.

Had we waited a bit longer to trade Wallace, we could have the #2 and #6 right now.

Then again, we'd probably have more than seven wins. Hindsight is a biatch.

mg · Post #189 » by mg » Thu May 31, 2012 3:11 am

Cavs GM Chris Grant says they will explore moving up. Cavs have 4 picks in this draft:

Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO
Chris Grant says Cavs will explore option of moving up in draft, but it's extremely difficult. "Look at history. Doesn't happen often."

M.S. Boyer/J. Valade ‏@PDcavsinsider
#Cavs GM Chris Grant wouldn't spill beans on who he likes at #4 (of course). Said he'll be "active," didn't rule out trading up in draft.

Eoghan · Post #190 » by **Eoghan** » Thu May 31, 2012 3:16 am

HasheemThabeet wrote:How did 3 chucker guards affect Drummond though? What would have happened if UConn had a pure point guard? Would they have given it to Drummond in the low post even though he has no moves besides an awful turnaround jumper. The guy has no notable skill on the offensive end you might as play 4 on 5 when he's in the game.

Bigmen are very dependent on guards. Lamb basically tried too hard sell his NBA stock all year by attempting difficult isos and Napier and Boatwright just plain chucked. You don't need a whole lot of post moves to score well as a College big. Robinson and Davis both have just a hook and a spin move and that's about it. I don't know what games you were watching but Drummond is silky smooth on the offensive end, hence his Amare comparisons. His problem is he can't shoot FTs to save his life and that went a long way towards limiting his post game b/c he was afraid to bang b/c of getting fouled so he was very passive. He's just raw and uncoached, that's all and easily fixable.

What player(s) do you like @ 2, Hasheem?

Eoghan · Post #191 » by **Eoghan** » Thu May 31, 2012 3:20 am

Geaux_Hawks wrote:The best scenario would be trade witg Boston and Portland. Take 6 from Portland and give Boston 11 for both their picks. Then go with PJIII with 6, Royce White, and Dion Waiters.

Mmm, yeah, daddy likes. Even though I'm not a huge fan of Dion Waiters, I don't think him and Beal are that far apart. Beal is starting to remind me more of OJ Mayo than Allen or Gordon.

TheKingofSting · Post #192 » by **TheKingofSting** » Thu May 31, 2012 3:24 am

Cho, Good listen

http://www.nba.com/bobcats/video/2012/0 ... mov-211472

vorbis · Post #193 » by **vorbis** » Thu May 31, 2012 3:29 am

i feel like i might as well get used to the idea of MKG as a bobcat. he seems like a player MJ will fall hard for.

NataFresh · Post #194 » by **NataFresh** » Thu May 31, 2012 3:29 am

Season GP MPG PPG FG% 3FG% FT% APG RPG BPG SPG
39 31.8 17.7 50.5 50.0 68.2 1.8 11.9 0.9 1.1

Player A

GP MPG PPG FG% 3FG% FT% APG RPG BPG SPG
37 30.2 19.8 50.4 27.8 75.5 2.0 11.4 1.4 1.8

Player B

One of these two is T-Rob, the other...is Drew Gooden.....the reason I'm posting this is because for everyone saying we can't afford to draft the next DeAndre Jordan(Drummond) you sure we can afford to draft the next Drew Gooden??

SWedd523 · Post #195 » by **SWedd523** » Thu May 31, 2012 3:32 am

What a terrible way to make an argument. Go look up Westbrook's college stats compared to Augustin's

StitchJones · Post #196 » by **StitchJones** » Thu May 31, 2012 3:33 am

I still really like Thomas Robinson. He's a legit 6-9, has good footwork, and good mid range jumpshot and good attitude. I draft him and then try to get that #10 or 11 pick from NO/Portland for DJA or Hendo with Mullens. Adding Robinson and Lamb in this draft would be a nice move for this organization.

NataFresh · Post #197 » by **NataFresh** » Thu May 31, 2012 3:35 am

SWedd523 wrote:What a terrible way to make an argument. Go look up Westbrook's college stats compared to Augustin's

I'm comparing two dudes with similar builds, who have played in similar offenses.....that's not comparing a Ben Howland offense to a Rick Barnes offense.....especially when Westbrook dwarves DJ

Badd_Intentions · Post #198 » by **Badd_Intentions** » Thu May 31, 2012 3:35 am

BrotherDave wrote:
HasheemThabeet wrote:How did 3 chucker guards affect Drummond though? What would have happened if UConn had a pure point guard? Would they have given it to Drummond in the low post even though he has no moves besides an awful turnaround jumper. The guy has no notable skill on the offensive end you might as play 4 on 5 when he's in the game.

Bigmen are very dependent on guards. Lamb basically tried too hard sell his NBA stock all year by attempting difficult isos and Napier and Boatwright just plain chucked. You don't need a whole lot of post moves to score well as a College big. Robinson and Davis both have just a hook and a spin move and that's about it. I don't know what games you were watching but Drummond is silky smooth on the offensive end, hence his Amare comparisons. His problem is he can't shoot FTs to save his life and that went a long way towards limiting his post game b/c he was afraid to bang b/c of getting fouled so he was very passive. He's just raw and uncoached, that's all and easily fixable.

What player(s) do you like @ 2, Hasheem?

Drummond is coordianted, which is a big plus to me. It's not like he is just a raw athlete or a big oaf that can run. I think if we work with this kid he can develop into something good.

Badd_Intentions · Post #199 » by **Badd_Intentions** » Thu May 31, 2012 3:38 am

StitchJones wrote:I still really like Thomas Robinson. He's a legit 6-9, has good footwork, and good mid range jumpshot and good attitude. I draft him and then try to get that #10 or 11 pick from NO/Portland for DJA or Hendo with Mullens. Adding Robinson and Lamb in this draft would be a nice move for this organization.

is he legit 6'9''?? I haven't seen any official measurements yet

SWedd523 · Post #200 » by **SWedd523** » Thu May 31, 2012 3:40 am

NataFresh wrote:
SWedd523 wrote:What a terrible way to make an argument. Go look up Westbrook's college stats compared to Augustin's

I'm comparing two dudes with similar builds, who have played in similar offenses.....that's not comparing a Ben Howland offense to a Rick Barnes offense.....especially when Westbrook dwarves DJ

Okay, compare MJ and Vince.

Having similar builds and playing in similar offenses does not mean you'll have the same nba career

Who should the Bobcats draft at #2?