The Mike Dunlap Thread

DY_nasty · Post #141 » by **DY_nasty** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:03 am

HasheemThabeet wrote:
fatlever wrote:i expected the media to play the "mj is cheap" card, but i didnt expect it from our fans. nothing about that coaching search gave the impression that we were trying to be cheap. you dont do 14 interviews if you are cheap. you dont put jerry sloan and nate mcmillan in the mix if you are cheap. as sachmo said, this hire feels more like a cho hire than an MJ hire. cho talked about wanting a teacher and that appears to be what we got.

i only dismissed this guy because i knew absolutely nothing about him.

It's not like Dunlap is the only teacher that was available. There were plenty of better coaching prospects available out there but they would clearly be more expensive like a Joerger or a Malone. Nobody is saying that the cheap way can't work. I remember Memphis paying some pretty good dollars for Iavaroni but when they fired him they went to Lionel Hollins who got peanuts. Another example is the Clippers after Dunleavy Sr. they went to Vinny Del Negro. But this was definitely the cheap way, if a GM has a blank check to get whoever they want Dunlap is not going to be near the top of the list

Hollins and Del Negro are both terrible though

HasheemThabeet · Post #142 » by **HasheemThabeet** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:06 am

Hollins is top 15

Benjammin · Post #143 » by **Benjammin** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:06 am

Denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance. Kudos to getting to acceptance so quickly. Seriously though, he may well be a good fit for a young team, especially if he has a strong coaching staff with him.

Liver_Pooty · Post #144 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:07 am

DY_nasty wrote:
HasheemThabeet wrote:
fatlever wrote:i expected the media to play the "mj is cheap" card, but i didnt expect it from our fans. nothing about that coaching search gave the impression that we were trying to be cheap. you dont do 14 interviews if you are cheap. you dont put jerry sloan and nate mcmillan in the mix if you are cheap. as sachmo said, this hire feels more like a cho hire than an MJ hire. cho talked about wanting a teacher and that appears to be what we got.

i only dismissed this guy because i knew absolutely nothing about him.

It's not like Dunlap is the only teacher that was available. There were plenty of better coaching prospects available out there but they would clearly be more expensive like a Joerger or a Malone. Nobody is saying that the cheap way can't work. I remember Memphis paying some pretty good dollars for Iavaroni but when they fired him they went to Lionel Hollins who got peanuts. Another example is the Clippers after Dunleavy Sr. they went to Vinny Del Negro. But this was definitely the cheap way, if a GM has a blank check to get whoever they want Dunlap is not going to be near the top of the list

Hollins and Del Negro are both terrible though

Hollins is definitely not "terrible"

Eoghan · Post #145 » by **Eoghan** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:08 am

Yeah, a strong support staff is key. If guys like Grgurich are brought in I'm satisfied. Please god, find a big man coach better than that Heavy D lookalike we had this year.

Elden Payton · Post #146 » by **Elden Payton** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:09 am

HasheemThabeet wrote:
fatlever wrote:i expected the media to play the "mj is cheap" card, but i didnt expect it from our fans. nothing about that coaching search gave the impression that we were trying to be cheap. you dont do 14 interviews if you are cheap. you dont put jerry sloan and nate mcmillan in the mix if you are cheap. as sachmo said, this hire feels more like a cho hire than an MJ hire. cho talked about wanting a teacher and that appears to be what we got.

i only dismissed this guy because i knew absolutely nothing about him.

It's not like Dunlap is the only teacher that was available. There were plenty of better coaching prospects available out there but they would clearly be more expensive like a Joerger or a Malone. Nobody is saying that the cheap way can't work. I remember Memphis paying some pretty good dollars for Iavaroni but when they fired him they went to Lionel Hollins who got peanuts. Another example is the Clippers after Dunleavy Sr. they went to Vinny Del Negro. But this was definitely the cheap way, if a GM has a blank check to get whoever they want Dunlap is not going to be near the top of the list

People seem to be forgetting that we are the Charlotte **** Bobcats and how many coaches of note wanted the job exactly??

Malone-Wants the Portland/Orlando job-we were his backup plan
Shaw-Wants the Orlando/Portland job-we were his backup plan
Snyder-Would have been a good choice but we'd be getting the same scrutiny we're getting for Dunlap
Sloan-Feigned interest and pulled out
McMillan-Classic retread who is a good coach but would want us to win too quick-LB 2.0

I'm glad we've got a good coach on the cheap, it's a credit to us and not a knock.

MJ was paying LB out the wazoo and what did that bring us??

Look at all D'Antoni's championships for all the money he's earnt.

Jersey/Brooklyn paying a mint to Avery has got them heaps of wins hasn't it?

Thibedeaux's crap cause he hasn't got a huge salary.

KembaWalker · Post #147 » by **KembaWalker** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:14 am

I don't even care about Dunlap as much as I wanna hear this Grgurich guy confirmed. This dude has a stellar reputation for player development. I want him

hotrod · Post #148 » by **hotrod** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:15 am

Marino wrote:Is it safe to assume the press conference will be in the next 2 days?

Just asked Bonnell, Wednesday.

Liver_Pooty · Post #149 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:17 am

Getting Grgurich is more important than the hiring of Dunlap as KembaWalker stated, in my opinion.

-Ian- · Post #150 » by **-Ian-** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:12 am

George Karl ‏@CoachKarl22
Great hire by Bobcats! Mike Dunlap is one of the most creative defensive minds I've ever worked with. Welcome back to the NBA!

doc.end · Post #151 » by **doc.end** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:52 am

This looks similar to all those be rich and famous in ten minutes kind of books. Except the ugly man in the middle.

doc.end · Post #152 » by **doc.end** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:58 am

I'm yet to catchu pwith the thread but I am wondering - did we pick to suck or to succeed? Or as whatever of that happens we still win type of move?

Post #153 » by **Diop** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:01 am

pick to develop I think

doc.end · Post #154 » by **doc.end** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:06 am

Jaruff wrote:
Battery wrote:I'm happy. Bet you we acquire another draft pick and take Moe Harkless. (who I've wanted)

I think he'll get the boys in shape. Might even knock some sense into Tyrus. On a team of young people, having an excellent teacher of the game isn't the worst move we could make.

I think the "assistant at a college program" is distracting people. A good coach is a good coach period.

What would over/under before he shoves Tyrus like Silas did (starting counting with first day of pre-season camp)?

doc.end · Post #155 » by **doc.end** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:10 am

I wonder who Dunlap's asistant would be. If a NCAA assistant is good enough for our head coach I hope they at least were on bench before.

doc.end · Post #156 » by **doc.end** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:22 am

Sachmo wrote:
fatlever wrote:i thouth adelaide was the religious center of oz. did i make that up?

Its both. The city of Churches and the city of mass murderers. Seems fitting.

I saw that coming!

doc.end · Post #157 » by **doc.end** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:25 am

Marino wrote:Tim Grgurich joining the staff per Woj

And this one actually has a wiki page!

therebirth · Post #158 » by **therebirth** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:29 am

St. John's assistant Mike Dunlap was hired Monday as head coach by the Charlotte Bobcats, the school said in a statement released early Tuesday morning.

NBA league sources told ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard the Bobcats will make an official announcement Wednesday at a press conference in Charlotte.

Sloan pulled himself out of the running last week, and after meeting with Shaw and Snyder, Jordan decided to re-open the field and brought Dunlap back in for an interview on Monday, sources say. Impressed, Jordan offered Dunlap the job.

Cho told ESPN.com's Andy Katz on Monday night that "a strong emphasis in player development was extremely high on our priority list," in response to the Dunlap hire. Dunlap is known as a teacher of the game amid his peers in college and in the NBA. - ESPN
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I stole this from another board. But let me just say that that I don't believe Broussard that mj re open the interview process. He is trying to cover his butt for being the first to report that the cats were down to 3 candidates for the coaching position. The cats are notorious for giving the media false information. Anybody remember draft night when both chad ford and Woj. were reporting the cats wanted the guy that the cavs eventually drafted instead of biyombo?

doc.end · Post #159 » by **doc.end** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:31 am

-Ian- wrote:Maurice Harkless  ‏@moe_harkless
Hahahaha RT @tommyy_t: Going to miss all of his rants. "I'm not mad. I'm intense!"

Great find, Ian!

Liver_Pooty · Post #160 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:33 am

Broussard is trash. Rick Bonnell was the first to report the story, and although I don't like a lot of Bonnells work Broussard tried to act like he was the one who broke the story. May not sound like a big deal, but its a slap in the face to local media. Bonnell sounded kind of pissed on his twitter.