Chad Ford Mock 10.0 Bucks take Terrence Ross

[Badgerlander]

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4. Andre Drummond had 10.6 rebs / 40 min + 3.8 blks / 40. At same age, Roy Hibbert avgd 8.8 reb/40, 3.2 blks/40.

5. From @mike_schmitz: Michael Kidd-Gilchrist's opponents shot 25% in iso's, 24% in PnR handling, 20% off the dribble.

6. Tony Wroten as 18-yr-old frosh (per 40 min): 21.1 pts, 6.6 reb, 5 ast. Tyreke as 19-yr-old frosh: 23.6 pts, 7.4 reb, 5.3 ast

7.From @mike_schmitz: Harrison Barnes' 47% on 2pt ranked 20/24 SFs in @DraftExpress Top 100. (Luol Deng shot 51% - as frosh.)

8. Of the top 4 SG prospects, Dion Waiters had the highest stls / 40 mins, asts / 40, and fewest to / 40.

9. J Lamb shot 60% on 2pt and 81% ft, both better than Beal (54%, 77%), A Rivers (47.7%, 66%), D Waiters (53%, 73%).

10. This yr, Terrence Jones had 23 gms w/ 7+ rebs, 12 gms w/ 3+ blks and 14 gms w/ 2+ stls.

11. Austin Rivers' FT rate (FTA/FGA) this year: 46% (Waiters 33%, Lamb 27%, T Ross 20%)

12. Damian Lillard only played 2 gms this yr vs Big-6 conf schools (Utah, Cal), and shot a combined 11/32 in those two gms.

13. Terrence Ross as soph (per 40 min): 21.1 pts, 8.3 rebs, 37% 3pt. Jason Richardson as soph: 20.6 pts, 8.3 rebs, 40% 3pt.

14. Tyler Zeller avgd 20+ pts per 40 min each of last 3 yrs, with an aggregate TS% of 60%.

15. From @mike_schmitz: Opponents made only 28% of their jumpers vs Quincy Miller this yr.

16. In 1st 5 gms of the yr, Marquis Teague had 16 asts / 20 to's. From SEC final thru NCAA tourney, he had 35 asts / 15 to's.

17. Royce White this yr had 9 gms with 12+ rebs, 17 gms with 5+ asts... and 12 gms with 5+ to's

18. As a soph, Kendall Marshall had a turnover % of 27.2. (As sophs, D Lillard had 15.0, Ty Lawson 20.1)

19. Perry Jones as a freshman: 58% true shooting, 46% FT rate (FTA/FGA). As a soph: 54% ts, 28% FT rate.

20. Since 2000, only 2 PF's in 1st rd had agility score < than J Sullinger: M Sweetney, A Jefferson (5-in more reach than JS)

[Rockmaninoff]

We better not move down again.

I wouldn't have a problem trading for the Celtics' picks. Take a PF (would prefer White, would accept Sullinger or Moultrie) and a SG (would prefer Wroten, would accept Barton), Machado in the 2nd, and call it a day. Get the center next year.

[paulpressey25]

If Lamb is not there at 14, I'd move down for 20/21. Alot of good players will be there

Agreed.

I just see Fab Melo in a Bucks uniform tonight.....

[tski1972]

per Chad Ford

Perry Jones III may be sliding down the draft due to a meniscus issue in his knee, according to multiple sources.

Opinions from league doctors vary in terms of the seriousness, but it may require surgery down the road.

Billy Duff, Jones' agent, declined to comment on the situation.

[Buckrageous]

Why don't they just stay at #14 and buy a late 1st like a normal team? If these late 1st's were so valuable why didn't they get one for one of their vets at the deadline? I don't know why anyone wanted to tank for a higher pick Hammond would have turned Davis into 4 declining vets, cash, and 2 picks in the 20"s anyway.

[Rockmaninoff]

I have no interest in moving down.

I'd take 16 and 18 to move down... but not 20/21.

I would actually prefer 16 and 18.

Yeah, I would have rather had 16 and 18 in the trade yesterday.

[raferfenix]

Just call up Ernie G. Offer up Monta and #14 or if they don't want that, offer up the 2013 pick with top 1 protection instead. Take back Blatche's horrific contract. Draft MKG and call it a day.

If only...

Kohl and his cronies do have a history with Grunfeld, so that could help theoretically.

I could see us taking back Blatche + whatever for salary purposes, while, offering Monta, #14, and one of Sanders / Udoh / Harris / Moute.

If we have both Gooden and Blatche there's no way we are bringing back Ersan, but you gotta do what you gotta do to bring in a top 5 talent in a draft like this in my mind.

[europa]

Kohl and his cronies do have a history with Grunfeld

Yeah, they fired him.

[The Wet Whistle]

How much would it cost to buy a late first? I think we got 1.5 mil from Houston. Would love to pick up an extra first for a guy like Miller.

T Jones/Miller would be a nice haul

[Buckrageous]

Just call up Ernie G. Offer up Monta and #14 or if they don't want that, offer up the 2013 pick with top 1 protection instead. Take back Blatche's horrific contract. Draft MKG and call it a day.

If only...

Kohl and his cronies do have a history with Grunfeld, so that could help theoretically.

I could see us taking back Blatche + whatever for salary purposes, while, offering Monta, #14, and one of Sanders / Udoh / Harris / Moute.

If we have both Gooden and Blatche there's no way we are bringing back Ersan, but you gotta do what you gotta do to bring in a top 5 talent in a draft like this in my mind.

Grunfeld is terrible at his job, worse than Hammond, that helps in dealing with them too.

[paulpressey25]

but you gotta do what you gotta do to bring in a top 5 talent in a draft like this in my mind.

Exactly. Toss out next year's #1 with minimal protection to move up. If you only put #1 overall protection on the 2013 pick, you protect yourself against losing out if win the lotto and "LeBron" is there. That is the big protection you really need. But if you get a top 5 pick this year in exchange for what might be a pick in the 2-5 range next year, who cares. This franchise is on life support right now.

This team is still completely irrelevant to the vast majority of SE Wisconsin unless they come away tonight with one of those top five guys. The sixth guy Drummond might get some interest also. But after that, everyone will be asking about Packer training camp by 11pm tonight.

[Buckrageous]

How much would it cost to buy a late first? I think we got 1.5 mil from Houston. Would love to pick up an extra first for a guy like Miller.

T Jones/Miller would be a nice haul

Buy a pick? Bucks can't do it. They are saving that money for a special occasion, like Kamen or Jamal Crawford.

[raferfenix]

I'm not sure how the Wizards would value draft picks now that they have such an absurd-level mandate to win now.

That Okafor and Ariza deal was crazy even by Herb Kohl standards. When we picked up Gooden and Maggette we at least had reason to believe we were about to turn a corner.

It gives hope that they will value Monta Ellis highly....but they would need to really like whatever other pieces we add to the deal to have us be in the discussion.

[Lippo]

I don't think Jones will be the pick. I'm surprised how quick this board took to him but I'd say Ross is more than realistic for the pick if staying at #14.

Cause the lemmings saw Chad Ford rank him 10 overall.
Hes just a bit better than his teammate Darius Miller who is a 2nd rounder.

yeah Ross will be the pick if hes there, which I would say is 25% or so.
I think Leonard will end up being the pick, but i want PJ3, hopefull we can trade down again and get 2 = players like White/Moultrie or something.

[Newz]

Cause the lemmings saw Chad Ford rank him 10 overall.

I actually liked Terrence Jones while the college season was going...

[[MIKE C]]

but you gotta do what you gotta do to bring in a top 5 talent in a draft like this in my mind.

Exactly. Toss out next year's #1 with minimal protection to move up. If you only put #1 overall protection on the 2013 pick, you protect yourself against losing out if win the lotto and "LeBron" is there. That is the big protection you really need. But if you get a top 5 pick this year in exchange for what might be a pick in the 2-5 range next year, who cares. This franchise is on life support right now.

This team is still completely irrelevant to the vast majority of SE Wisconsin unless they come away tonight with one of those top five guys. The sixth guy Drummond might get some interest also. But after that, everyone will be asking about Packer training camp by 11pm tonight.

This is why the draft has become so depressing for me. Every year it seems like the Bucks have numerous options to make a big meaningful move. Whether it is rumors from media or league sources, or just random fan speculation, I always fall for it and cling to the hope that this is the year they do the right thing. Of course in the end they never make the bold move and try for greatness. Instead they play it safe and settle for mediocrity. No reason to do it differently, I guess. Great players aren't needed when average is the goal. No need to aim too high. Don't want to over shoot in the attempt for the 8th seed.

[buckboy]

[quote="Lippo"][quote="Nebula1"]I don't think Jones will be the pick. I'm surprised how quick this board took to him but I'd say Ross is more than realistic for the pick if staying at #14.[/quote]


Cause the lemmings saw Chad Ford rank him 10 overall.
[b]Hes just a bit better than his teammate Darius Miller who is a 2nd rounder.[/b]

yeah Ross will be the pick if hes there, which I would say is 25% or so.
I think Leonard will end up being the pick, but i want PJ3, hopefull we can trade down again and get 2 = players like White/Moultrie or something.[/quote]

Just complete nonsense. Terrence Jones and Darius Miller are nothing alike talent-wise or any other way.

[Nebula1]

Cleveland is about to have an Irving/Beal backcourt. We need something along the lines of Jennings/Muhammad to compete.

[Lippo]

Yeah its just weird how 8 weeks ago when we got the 12, everyone was praying Lamb/Waiters or PJ3 would fall to 12 and T.Jones was never even mentioned. I guess the combine/workouts change things, but none of us saw the workouts, and T.Jones did nothing at the cmbine to make him pass PJ3 physically. Kentucky players just scare me other than Davis. Its easy to look good and be efficient on a FAB-6 Team. Even MKG will end up being a James Posey type.

[ReasonablySober]

They're only getting Beal if they move up to #2, which is exactly what they should do.