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Post#141 » by Shem » Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:40 am

mojomarc wrote:Sometimes the youtube tags work, sometimes they don't. My guess is sometime tomorrow this will magically be embedded.

They always work if you know what you're doing. There are different URL styles that you can use in YouTube depending on your method of looking up the video. If you choose the right URL for the video when using the YouTube codes, it will work.

Now here is the proper way of doing it:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUroGQZQj-g[/youtube]
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Post#142 » by The Sebastian Express » Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:45 am

Well Vince Carter dunked over someone who was a eight inches taller than him.. Leonard dunked over someone who was probably two feet shorter.
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Re: Draft Results: Damian Lillard, Meyers Leonard, Will Bar 

Post#143 » by mojomarc » Sat Jun 30, 2012 3:02 am

Shem wrote:
mojomarc wrote:Sometimes the youtube tags work, sometimes they don't. My guess is sometime tomorrow this will magically be embedded.

They always work if you know what you're doing. There are different URL styles that you can use in YouTube depending on your method of looking up the video. If you choose the right URL for the video when using the YouTube codes, it will work.

Now here is the proper way of doing it:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUroGQZQj-g[/youtube]


I used that exact URL the first time. When that didn't work, I went to YouTube and used the share link, which is the shortened one. Both have worked in the past.
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Re: Draft Results: Damian Lillard, Meyers Leonard, Will Bar 

Post#144 » by JasonStern » Sat Jun 30, 2012 3:02 am

according to sources, last night's draft might have cost portland any chance of re-signing raymond felton. not because the blazers drafted another point guard in lillard, which felton is apparently okay mentoring, but because the blazers passed on over 400lbs of lamb. the source linked felton to indiana, which is looking to upgrade their point guard situation in free agency. kevin pritchard, indiana's new general manager, has a plan of baking a cake that apparently sounds appealing to felton.
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Re: Draft Results: Damian Lillard, Meyers Leonard, Will Bar 

Post#145 » by JasonStern » Sat Jun 30, 2012 3:12 am

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PTPaQ wrote:ah man some of yall act like nobody from a small school has a shot in the NBA.

This. Didn't Steph Curry have a good rookie year?


This. Didn't Luke Babbitt make the chaloopa shot once his rookie year?

not bashing lillard - just sayin'...


AllMyNeilOlshey wrote:I liked Drummond. Not sure his potential was Howard but DeAndre Jordan didn't seem to far off.


jordan is the most likely outcome. drummond's ceiling is that of howard, with his likely bust scenario still being a top 20-30 defensive minded, offensive liability center until his athleticism fades. it's not like the center position is exactly strong in the league, unlike the point guard position...
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Re: Draft Results: Damian Lillard, Meyers Leonard, Will Bar 

Post#146 » by Khazim » Sat Jun 30, 2012 6:13 am

JasonStern wrote:according to sources, last night's draft might have cost portland any chance of re-signing raymond felton. not because the blazers drafted another point guard in lillard, which felton is apparently okay mentoring, but because the blazers passed on over 400lbs of lamb. the source linked felton to indiana, which is looking to upgrade their point guard situation in free agency. kevin pritchard, indiana's new general manager, has a plan of baking a cake that apparently sounds appealing to felton.

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Post#147 » by monopoman » Sat Jun 30, 2012 9:38 am

PTPaQ wrote:The odds are with you by just saying "he will notbe r.o.y.". Its hard to argue that. The test is for you to say he wont be in the running and i dont know if they keep track of 2nd place 3 plc etc, but imo that would be more telling of his 1st yr success. Id say if he doesnt take too much time to adjust the minutes will be there as we dont have anyone to challenge him right now, barring a FA pickup.


ESPN has rookie rankings which basically keeps track of the standings of ROY.

Since ESPN always has the favorite for the trophy at 1 eventually.

Early in the year rankings jump around but near the end of the year the #1 in that ranking is basically a 99.99% chance to win the ROY.

For instant Roy was not always ranked #1 but once he nabbed the #1 spot he basically held it the remainder of the year.
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Post#148 » by GUYANNAGRIZZLI » Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:41 pm

JasonStern wrote:according to sources, last night's draft might have cost portland any chance of re-signing raymond felton. not because the blazers drafted another point guard in lillard, which felton is apparently okay mentoring, but because the blazers passed on over 400lbs of lamb. the source linked felton to indiana, which is looking to upgrade their point guard situation in free agency. kevin pritchard, indiana's new general manager, has a plan of baking a cake that apparently sounds appealing to felton.

loosing Felton is the best thing could happen to the blazers
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Post#149 » by GUYANNAGRIZZLI » Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:50 pm

Damian Lillard is a good scorer and i think he will make more assist in NBA
Leonard have size and athleticism this center looks strong and serious and talented
Barton was one of my favourite second rounder who has the potential to become an average nba player

Great draft by the blazers who acquired to good players at this draft for sure
Just expect now that those two guys don't get injured badly, you see what I mean?
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Post#150 » by TBpup » Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:05 pm

Well Vince Carter dunked over someone who was a eight inches taller than him.. Leonard dunked over someone who was probably two feet shorter.


SebEx...while all of that is true, when is the last time you saw a 7'er with the handles, skill and coordination to do what he did. Players like Carter, LeBron, Wade, Kobe....not nearly as much of a surprise. I don't remember seeing Bynum, Howard, KG or any other big doing something like that.
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Post#151 » by The Sebastian Express » Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:34 pm

Uh. KG has some of the best handles ever for a big man - they played him as a point forward for much of his early years in Minnesota. I've seen Howard and Bynum all do that (minus the jumping over a 5'5 player because Nate Robinson would have gotten out of the way) - catch the ball on the break and dunk from a nice distance out. We saw Greg lead a fastbreak with LaMarcus, we've seen LaMarcus do that (again minus the 5'5 player to jump over). Yao broke Damon Stoudamire's ankles with a behind the back dribble on the fastbreak (a most embarrassing moment). Chris Bosh drives with good handles pretty well. This is just off the top of my head without thinking.

Please keep in mind that video, I believe, was in high school. I'm not saying it wasn't a cool dunk, but to keep it in perspective.
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Post#152 » by TBpup » Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:12 pm

SebEx...I'm surprised at the response. Never was it indicated that KG didn't have handles. I believe the statement was, "when is the last time you saw a 7'er with the handles, skill and coordination to do what he did?" If there is video of any of those bigs doing that, I'd love to see it. I think it is incredible when big guys do something that is reserved more often for ball handling wings.

Also, thank you for the reminder it was a high school video since it said right on it, high school sectionals...
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Post#153 » by Wizenheimer » Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:59 pm

I feel dirty for bringing it up, but....

clownzano had an interview with the beat reported of Illinois...the team Meyers Leonard played for...who is real familiar with Leonard. Worth a listen if you're curious about Leonard

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/john_canzano/index.ssf/2012/06/bald-faced_truth_with_john_can_351.html
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Post#154 » by peachbucket » Sat Jun 30, 2012 6:51 pm

I saw all of Leonards games this year and I think he will end up being a top three player from this draft. He will need a little time but he has the potential to be a Paul Gasol type of player. This guy is tough and plays with an edge...this is definitely not Byron Mullen who you drafted. He is highly intelligent and also a tremendous passer for his size....give him a little time and you will absolutely love him.
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Post#155 » by Blazinaway » Sat Jun 30, 2012 7:09 pm

Wizenheimer wrote:I feel dirty for bringing it up, but....

clownzano had an interview with the beat reported of Illinois...the team Meyers Leonard played for...who is real familiar with Leonard. Worth a listen if you're curious about Leonard

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/john_canzano/index.ssf/2012/06/bald-faced_truth_with_john_can_351.html


nice, thx Wiz
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Post#156 » by re49gb_2gho32fp » Sat Jun 30, 2012 7:14 pm

thx wiz.

peachbucket wrote:I saw all of Leonards games this year and I think he will end up being a top three player from this draft. He will need a little time but he has the potential to be a Paul Gasol type of player. This guy is tough and plays with an edge...this is definitely not Byron Mullen who you drafted. He is highly intelligent and also a tremendous passer for his size....give him a little time and you will absolutely love him.


Thank you for the input. It happened that i made this comment roughly a month ago on the draft board regarding his ceiling


shaolin wrote:From the excessive readings and subsequent personal analysis, the combination of;

age, size, work-ethic, current skill-level, natural physical gifts and long-term potential, not only does Meyers Leonard ooze top 10 talent, but is top 3 long-term prospect really that far-fetched of a thought?

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1180365

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Post#157 » by Shem » Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:18 pm

Wizenheimer wrote:I feel dirty for bringing it up, but....

clownzano had an interview with the beat reported of Illinois...the team Meyers Leonard played for...who is real familiar with Leonard. Worth a listen if you're curious about Leonard

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/john_canzano/index.ssf/2012/06/bald-faced_truth_with_john_can_351.html

I heard the interview live on the radio. You're right, it was good!
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Re: Draft Results: Damian Lillard, Meyers Leonard, Will Bar 

Post#158 » by Shem » Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:34 pm

Chris Haynes with another report:

The 2012 NBA Draft came and went and the Portland Trail Blazers are considered by many to have had the best Draft day out of all the other 29 NBA teams.

One primary justification for such high praise was the selection of Damian Lillard, a 6-3 point guard taken out of Weber State at No. 6. The Trail Blazers general manager, Neil Olshey, even went as far as to say that they feel like they drafted their franchise player.

When you think of franchise point guards to come out in recent memory, Derrick Rose is one, Russell Westbrook, Kyrie Irving, John Wall, and the list goes on.


More here:
http://www.csnnw.com/pages/landingblaze ... eedID=5212

Here are some quotes from that legendary workout:

“I think I showed a couple of things: I think I surprised them with my athleticism, I showed my ability to pass the ball well in pick-and-roll situations, my speed, the ability to make shots when tired, and I went hard the entire way. I was tired during that workout, but I persevered and knocked down my shots.”

“My workout with the Kings was similar I think. I worked out for the Kings and then the Blazers on back-to-back days. I was just in one of those rhythms during that time where I felt good and I couldn't miss.”
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Re: Draft Results: Damian Lillard, Meyers Leonard, Will Bar 

Post#159 » by Shem » Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:40 pm

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Shem wrote:
mojomarc wrote:Sometimes the youtube tags work, sometimes they don't. My guess is sometime tomorrow this will magically be embedded.

They always work if you know what you're doing. There are different URL styles that you can use in YouTube depending on your method of looking up the video. If you choose the right URL for the video when using the YouTube codes, it will work.

Now here is the proper way of doing it:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUroGQZQj-g[/youtube]


I used that exact URL the first time. When that didn't work, I went to YouTube and used the share link, which is the shortened one. Both have worked in the past.

RealGM is way more picky about YouTube codes than any site I've ever used that has YouTube support. The method I use and work every time is type in:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

And it must have the "http:" code. For example if you start off using the "www." ...it won't work even though that works when typing in a web address. Like I said, it's very picky here at this site which has to do with who coded it here. Then in this case when I made it work, I put in the video code all YouTube videos have which was "SUroGQZQj-g" in this case. Combine it with the YouTube codes and presto.
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Re: Draft Results: Damian Lillard, Meyers Leonard, Will Bar 

Post#160 » by JustBlaze52 » Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:49 pm

In 2006, I wanted two players. Brandon Roy and LaMarcus Aldridge. I had been watching LaMarcus every single game of his Texas career and knew he was going to be a great player, admittedly, he and Roy were both better than I thought.

Every draft since then I haven't liked the Blazers choices. Hated Martell and Bayless. Was pissed we passed on Blair (screaming at the television) and was frustrated that we took Nolan over Faried (everyone was, but it was part of the Felton deal). Understood the Babbitt choice, cause that draft seemed pretty weak in general and the kid was a lights out shooter, which we needed.

This draft, other than the obvious Beal, Robinson, and Davis... there were two guys I wanted. I've wanted Meyers all along, but Lillard took a bit of time for me to warm up to. After getting to know Lillard a bit more, it was a obvious that he was a great pick. Leonard has gotten way better since his freshman year, and if he were utilized better, would've been a top 5 pick. If he stays healthy, he's going to be really good.

What I'm trying to say is, I think this will easily be the best draft since 2006, and could be similar in it's results, maybe not AS good (that draft was amazing), but close. The Blazers did exactly what I wanted them to do, just like then. I'm confident and stoked, can't wait for them to shut the haters up, and they will. :nod:


Edit: Just realized Martell was '05. Oh well. The point stands.
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