Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXX: Offseason Edition)

arkknight1988 · Post #1041 » by **arkknight1988** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 12:15 am

VGOSWAMI wrote:The Kings don't have to do a S&T to get Anderson. They can sign him out right. They don't have to trade anyone.

yep. not sure why they would want cousins anderson and robinson though. they have other needs at sg/sf

Skin · Post #1042 » by **Skin** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 12:15 am

Bensational wrote:i know that the Dwight situation hasn't been resolved, but seeing guys like Johnson, Okafor, Shard and Marv Williams being moved makes me wonder why Hedo is still on our team.

regardless of what Dwight does, i'd have thought that getting an expiring for him would be in the best interest of the team?

Hedo is worse. For one, he's already been on several different teams where it didn't work out, so new teams won't think "Oh maybe it'll work here". Two, he's not a big man. Three, he's not a top SG. Four, he's OLD.

rcklsscognition · Post #1043 » by **rcklsscognition** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 12:16 am

Get it while it's hot folks, this bag of turds is still steaming:

Ricardo says:
July 2, 2012 at 7:59 pm

How can someone claim to be a sports writer when they can’t even add up a grocery bill? How do Howard, Johnson, DWill + Turkoglu/Davis fit under the cap? Why would the Magic take a bunch of average players (Humphries + Brook Lopez) or more overpaid talent (Gerald Wallace)? Oh, and 4 future picks in the 25-30 range look really atractive… Plus why would Gerald Wallace agree to this?
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Chris Sheridan says:
July 2, 2012 at 8:03 pm

Break the deal into two pieces — one while Nets are under the cap, the other when they are over.
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Sharif says:
July 2, 2012 at 7:49 pm

How can they include Gerald Wallace in this trade?
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Chris Sheridan says:
July 2, 2012 at 8:04 pm

Sign-and-trade. Gerald has 40 million reasons to be cool with it.
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Guest says:
July 2, 2012 at 8:13 pm

Uh, they’ve already verbally agreed on $40M/4 years for him to play in Brooklyn. How do you suppose that conversation is gonna go?

“Actually, Gerald, we know we already said we’d pay you that to play for us….but instead, how about we pay you that to play for an awful Orlando team. Sound good?”
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LinkBait says:
July 2, 2012 at 7:46 pm

This must be linkbait. No one is this dumb.

No way in hell the Magic take Wallace and his 40m contract even if it was allowed (which is isn’t). Nor would they spares Lopez, Humphries and Brooks.

Why would Orlando do that? They get no salary cap relief, no young good players, and no stars.

How would the Nets have a functioning team with only 3 players under contract?

This is the most idiotic thing I have read today, and I’ve read quite a bit.
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Chris Sheridan says:
July 2, 2012 at 8:07 pm

Not linkbait, my friend. It is the real deal, otherwise I wouldn’t have reported it. And by the way, Brooks, Lopez are good young players. Hump is a double-double machine. Multiple No. 1s are the gravy. Nets taking back Turk/Davis is the cap relief. Brooklyn fills in pieces around Big Three with mini mid-level and vet minimums.

ADRajX · Post #1044 » by **ADRajX** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 12:16 am

If we can S&T Ryan for Tyreke, I would be ecstatic!

PeePee la Fritz · Post #1045 » by **PeePee la Fritz** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 12:19 am

sheridanhoops
Repeating: Nets are NOT out of Dwight Howard mix. Skeptics answered in comments section: sheridanhoops.com/2012/07/02/net…
2 minutes ago · reply · retweet · favorite

Shut up Sheridan smh

BelgianMagic · Post #1046 » by **BelgianMagic** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 12:21 am

Drew Belzer ‏@DrewBelzerESPN
Bucher: They (Howard's camp) didn't see this (JJ trade) coming...The Dallas Mavericks now take the pole position on getting Dwight Howard.

PeePee la Fritz · Post #1047 » by **PeePee la Fritz** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 12:21 am

DJRajX wrote:If we can S&T Ryan for Tyreke, I would be ecstatic!

Big time +1

InFlames · Post #1048 » by **InFlames** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 12:22 am

PeePee la Fritz wrote:
sheridanhoops
Repeating: Nets are NOT out of Dwight Howard mix. Skeptics answered in comments section: sheridanhoops.com/2012/07/02/net…
2 minutes ago · reply · retweet · favorite

Shut up Sheridan smh

Sheridan is dumb lmao. Does he really think we would take on Wallace's 4yr/40 mill? Gtfo

rcklsscognition · Post #1049 » by **rcklsscognition** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 12:22 am

Sheridan's idea. Trade Dwight for Lopez and Brooks. Then trade Turk/Davis for Gerald Wallace and Kris Humpries. Plus the nets' draft pick, which will be like the 28th-30th pick.

fbeye343 · Post #1050 » by **fbeye343** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 12:22 am

If Kings want Ryan they DO have incentive to trade for him bc even though they are under cap, Magic still have right to match. Only way to assure getting him is via trade

magicman123 · Post #1051 » by **magicman123** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 12:22 am

BelgianMagic wrote:
Drew Belzer ‏@DrewBelzerESPN
Bucher: They (Howard's camp) didn't see this (JJ trade) coming...The Dallas Mavericks now take the pole position on getting Dwight Howard.

vince carter, shawn marion, dominique jones please

smh, they have nothing

InFlames · Post #1052 » by **InFlames** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 12:24 am

The Mavs have even less than the Nets.

OrlandO · Post #1053 » by **OrlandO** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 12:24 am

New Jersey couldn't win with those players and dwill, so why would we want them without dwill? smh.

MagicFan41 · Post #1054 » by **MagicFan41** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 12:25 am

magicman123 wrote:
BelgianMagic wrote:
Drew Belzer ‏@DrewBelzerESPN
Bucher: They (Howard's camp) didn't see this (JJ trade) coming...The Dallas Mavericks now take the pole position on getting Dwight Howard.

vince carter, shawn marion, dominique jones please

smh, they have nothing

Yeh but the problem is if they have the necessary space next summer he can threaten to walk there just like with NJ

And he prob will threaten that. Cuz he's a douche.

magicman123 · Post #1055 » by **magicman123** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 12:26 am

MagicFan41 wrote:Yeh but the problem is if they have the necessary space next summer he can threaten to walk there just like with NJ

And he prob will threaten that. Cuz he's a douche.

ok then let him walk, what the hell are you gonna get from the mavericks? take the cap space before you take on the senor citizen crap they have

kman1023 · Post #1056 » by **kman1023** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 12:26 am

rcklsscognition wrote:Get it while it's hot folks, this bag of turds is still steaming:

Ricardo says:
July 2, 2012 at 7:59 pm

How can someone claim to be a sports writer when they can’t even add up a grocery bill? How do Howard, Johnson, DWill + Turkoglu/Davis fit under the cap? Why would the Magic take a bunch of average players (Humphries + Brook Lopez) or more overpaid talent (Gerald Wallace)? Oh, and 4 future picks in the 25-30 range look really atractive… Plus why would Gerald Wallace agree to this?
Reply

Chris Sheridan says:
July 2, 2012 at 8:03 pm

Break the deal into two pieces — one while Nets are under the cap, the other when they are over.
Reply

Sharif says:
July 2, 2012 at 7:49 pm

How can they include Gerald Wallace in this trade?
Reply

Chris Sheridan says:
July 2, 2012 at 8:04 pm

Sign-and-trade. Gerald has 40 million reasons to be cool with it.
Reply
Guest says:
July 2, 2012 at 8:13 pm

Uh, they’ve already verbally agreed on $40M/4 years for him to play in Brooklyn. How do you suppose that conversation is gonna go?

“Actually, Gerald, we know we already said we’d pay you that to play for us….but instead, how about we pay you that to play for an awful Orlando team. Sound good?”
Reply

LinkBait says:
July 2, 2012 at 7:46 pm

This must be linkbait. No one is this dumb.

No way in hell the Magic take Wallace and his 40m contract even if it was allowed (which is isn’t). Nor would they spares Lopez, Humphries and Brooks.

Why would Orlando do that? They get no salary cap relief, no young good players, and no stars.

How would the Nets have a functioning team with only 3 players under contract?

This is the most idiotic thing I have read today, and I’ve read quite a bit.
Reply

Chris Sheridan says:
July 2, 2012 at 8:07 pm

Not linkbait, my friend. It is the real deal, otherwise I wouldn’t have reported it. And by the way, Brooks, Lopez are good young players. Hump is a double-double machine. Multiple No. 1s are the gravy. Nets taking back Turk/Davis is the cap relief. Brooklyn fills in pieces around Big Three with mini mid-level and vet minimums.

This guy is such a @(**$#(*$(&%*& :lol:

MagicFan41 · Post #1057 » by **MagicFan41** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 12:31 am

magicman123 wrote:
MagicFan41 wrote:Yeh but the problem is if they have the necessary space next summer he can threaten to walk there just like with NJ

And he prob will threaten that. Cuz he's a douche.

ok then let him walk, what the hell are you gonna get from the mavericks? take the cap space before you take on the senor citizen crap they have

Did I say to trade him to the Mavs? No. I'm simply stating that him having any team he wants to be on that will have cap space reduces his trade value to OTHER "rental" teams because it gives him outs. Plus if this keeps up there's no way the Magic play it out for the whole year and have this circus all over again all year IMO

arkknight1988 · Post #1058 » by **arkknight1988** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 12:32 am

BelgianMagic wrote:
Drew Belzer ‏@DrewBelzerESPN
Bucher: They (Howard's camp) didn't see this (JJ trade) coming...The Dallas Mavericks now take the pole position on getting Dwight Howard.

dwight's camp is hilarious. "where are we going now dwight??? i wanted to be in bk with jayzzzz!!!""""

arkknight1988 · Post #1059 » by **arkknight1988** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 12:35 am

i feel sorry for devos. howard did him wrong with this bullsh*t, and hes stuck paying that clown gilbert arenas 60 million. poor guy

BelgianMagic · Post #1060 » by **BelgianMagic** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 12:36 am

So now Ric Bucher has created the Mavs story again .. I can already predict tomorrow night's buzz:

"Sources say Dwight Howard has requested a trade to the Dallas Mavericks"

It's getting old, Dwight/ESPN/Bucher :-?

After that it's gonna be the Lakers .. Maybe the Knicks or wherever Dwight wants to play, untill "his camp" wants Dwight to play for a team that has something Hennigan wants ..

His camp should STFO