Official: Lowry to Toronto (Who

hillbilly hare · Post #41 » by **hillbilly hare** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 4:06 am

franktony wrote:I love this deal for Toronto

They got the 8th pick this season with Bargs injured most of the season. Now they're adding Lowry, Ross, Fields and Valanciunas. I don't see how they can get worse.

I really don't know what Morey is trying to do. If the idea is to rebuild, why make such big offers for Jeremy Lin, Asik and try a S&T for Gordon ? That doesn't make any sense.

Thanks, but "can't get worse" is not exactly a ringing endorsement

P.S. do Rockets fans know what the final proposed trade was during the draft? When Drummond fell to us at 8, was it our pick for Lowry and 12? Just asking, as Colangelo bashing is in full swing on the Raptors board, for turning down the deal without having a 99.9% guarantee from Nash.

zapatasblood · Post #42 » by **zapatasblood** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 5:30 am

like this trade somewhat but the Rockets are finally going in the right direction. I will the Raptors won this one. To go from the 8 for Lowry which could have gotten us Drummond to whatever this deal is a loss for the Rockets

zapatasblood · Post #43 » by **zapatasblood** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 5:42 am

hillbilly hare wrote:
franktony wrote:I love this deal for Toronto

They got the 8th pick this season with Bargs injured most of the season. Now they're adding Lowry, Ross, Fields and Valanciunas. I don't see how they can get worse.

I really don't know what Morey is trying to do. If the idea is to rebuild, why make such big offers for Jeremy Lin, Asik and try a S&T for Gordon ? That doesn't make any sense.

Thanks, but "can't get worse" is not exactly a ringing endorsement

P.S. do Rockets fans know what the final proposed trade was during the draft? When Drummond fell to us at 8, was it our pick for Lowry and 12? Just asking, as Colangelo bashing is in full swing on the Raptors board, for turning down the deal without having a 99.9% guarantee from Nash.

Was not that. Would more likely have been Lowry and either the 16th or the 18th or even just Lowry

melo mvp 15 · Post #44 » by **melo mvp 15** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 5:48 am

I'm surprised Morey just let Dragic walk like that, especially considering he's restricted... he probably could've convinced PHX to send Marshall to Houston if they hadn't made it so public about Dragic not getting matched.

And like someone said, Calderon makes sense (assuming Toronto amnesties him and Houston stays under the cap to make a bid). Felton doesn't IMO, but Sessions does. Actually Sessions seems like many of the PGs that have excelled in Houston recently (from Brooks to Lowry to Dragic).

SCourGe OF GoD · Post #45 » by **SCourGe OF GoD** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 6:29 am

melo mvp 15 wrote:I'm surprised Morey just let Dragic walk like that, especially considering he's restricted... he probably could've convinced PHX to send Marshall to Houston if they hadn't made it so public about Dragic not getting matched.

And like someone said, Calderon makes sense (assuming Toronto amnesties him and Houston stays under the cap to make a bid). Felton doesn't IMO, but Sessions does. Actually Sessions seems like many of the PGs that have excelled in Houston recently (from Brooks to Lowry to Dragic).

Dragic would destroy the tank Morey is creating

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Post #46 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 9:53 am

melo mvp 15 wrote:I'm surprised Morey just let Dragic walk like that, especially considering he's restricted... he probably could've convinced PHX to send Marshall to Houston if they hadn't made it so public about Dragic not getting matched.

And like someone said, Calderon makes sense (assuming Toronto amnesties him and Houston stays under the cap to make a bid). Felton doesn't IMO, but Sessions does. Actually Sessions seems like many of the PGs that have excelled in Houston recently (from Brooks to Lowry to Dragic).

He's unrestricted.

Laowai · Post #47 » by **Laowai** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 12:49 pm

Bayless for pick back.

Post #48 » by **Mr Swagtastic** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 1:58 pm

Laowai wrote:Bayless for pick back.

Why would The Rockets do that? They are banking on that pick yielding them a good late lotto pick for them next year. Bayless isn't worth that much, I think The Rockets should be waiting for Calderon to hit the waiver wire and pick him up short term. He's a great tank commander to help you get a top pick and Calderon + Martin in the back court would be a sure fire way to get those extra ping pong balls for Shabazz or Nerlens Noel or Cody Zeller or James McAdoo.

If you need a guy right now I guess the two best names left are Sessions and Felton

Post #49 » by **gswhoops** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 3:53 pm

Laowai wrote:Bayless for pick back.

Pretty sure Houston would have just included Bayless in the original deal if they wanted him

EDIT: For extra LOLs, the Raptors just pulled the QO for Bayless, basically saying they'd rather risk losing him for nothing then have to give him a 1 year, $4M contract. Clearly the kind of guy who's worth a guaranteed lotto pick.

Post #50 » by **Duffman100** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 4:41 pm

This is a deal that would never have any traction in the trade board. It would been blasted by posters.

Post #51 » by **Morris_Shatford** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 5:13 pm

I don't even like Lowry, but for Forbes and a strangely protected 1st,

Heck, why not?

Guy986 · Post #52 » by **Guy986** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 5:23 pm

As a rockets fan im not happy with this trade. This means the rockets are ready to tank hard. Scola will be traded for crap expiring next week imo.

LarsV8 · Post #53 » by **LarsV8** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 5:27 pm

Guy986 wrote:As a rockets fan im not happy with this trade. This means the rockets are ready to tank hard. Scola will be traded for crap expiring next week imo.

Thats not what it means at all. :lol:

Guy986 · Post #54 » by **Guy986** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 5:42 pm

LarsV8 wrote:
Guy986 wrote:As a rockets fan im not happy with this trade. This means the rockets are ready to tank hard. Scola will be traded for crap expiring next week imo.

Thats not what it means at all.

Yes it does. We have no pg and no center.

Im ready for a top 3 pick.

Xman · Post #55 » by **Xman** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 5:48 pm

Listened to Morey on the radio - sounded like he was preparing fans for a 20 win season or two.

About time - if we had crashed hard a year or two ago we might have gotten Davis.

NotMyRealName · Post #56 » by **NotMyRealName** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 6:05 pm

Alienware wrote:
LarsV8 wrote:^yes they do.

They just get it as it is in year 6

Word is that no, they don't.

'Word' is wrong.

Lars is right.

If the Raptors make the playoffs every year the first 5 years, the pick is completely unprotected in year 6 and the Rockets get it.

NotMyRealName · Post #57 » by **NotMyRealName** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 6:07 pm

Apparently a guaranteed lottery pick is worth more on the trade market than Lowry was.

Hence the reason for making the trade.

LarsV8 · Post #58 » by **LarsV8** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 6:26 pm

Guy986 wrote:Yes it does. We have no pg and no center.

Im ready for a top 3 pick.

Thats irrelevant. Everything they are doing is for the Dwight Howard move.

The market is overloaded with PGs. Sessions, Lin and Felton are servicable PGs and still available.

Its all laid out here:

http://rockets.clutchfans.net/2957/rock ... ht-howard/

Boneman2 · Post #59 » by **Boneman2** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 6:32 pm

^^^ Would Howard extend with Houston?

Are you just infatuated or does the possibility have legs?

LarsV8 · Post #60 » by **LarsV8** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 6:43 pm

Who knows what Howard is going to do. He is like a teenage girl.

Who won the trade?