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Re: Marshon Brooks 

Post#21 » by bluethunder0005 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:51 pm

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bluethunder0005 wrote:In 2 years Brooks will be better than Courtney Lee ever dreamed of being. That doesn't really mean anything special though as Lee is just a meh player.


Or he'll be on his third team like Beasley.


That 4 teams in 5 years looks real impressive for Lee. Least Marshon is going to be a big piece in acquiring a superstar like Dwight. Lee has been moved for a 32 year old Carter and was involved in a deal that made him replace another mediocre player in Trevor Ariza. I'm all for not wanting certain players with set mindsets but let's not act like Lee is better than Brooks. He might be a hair better now but in 2 years it won't even be close.
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Re: Marshon Brooks 

Post#22 » by Worm Guts » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:02 pm

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bluethunder0005 wrote:In 2 years Brooks will be better than Courtney Lee ever dreamed of being. That doesn't really mean anything special though as Lee is just a meh player.


Or he'll be on his third team like Beasley.


That 4 teams in 5 years looks real impressive for Lee. Least Marshon is going to be a big piece in acquiring a superstar like Dwight. Lee has been moved for a 32 year old Carter and was involved in a deal that made him replace another mediocre player in Trevor Ariza. I'm all for not wanting certain players with set mindsets but let's not act like Lee is better than Brooks. He might be a hair better now but in 2 years it won't even be close.


Orlando doesn't even want Brooks, which is why he's being shopped to other teams. Lee is a role player, but he's absolutely a useful player. I'm not sure Brooks is, or ever will be.
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Re: Marshon Brooks 

Post#23 » by bluethunder0005 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:12 pm

Brooks already was as valuable if not more valuable than Lee this season as a rookie and with him having injury issues during the middle of the season. Lee is a capable defender and 3pt threat worthy of 20 minutes a night as a 7th or 8th man. Brooks is already worthy of that and could actually develop into something better. He has a ton of offensive skill and don't lump him in the same category as Nick Young and Crawford they are not even remotely close to the same type of player.
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Re: Marshon Brooks 

Post#24 » by [RCG] » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:24 pm

bluethunder0005 wrote:Brooks already was as valuable if not more valuable than Lee this season as a rookie and with him having injury issues during the middle of the season. Lee is a capable defender and 3pt threat worthy of 20 minutes a night as a 7th or 8th man. Brooks is already worthy of that and could actually develop into something better. He has a ton of offensive skill and don't lump him in the same category as Nick Young and Crawford they are not even remotely close to the same type of player.


Well look at Nick Young in Washington - better #s than Brooks. Crawford is pretty similar %s to Young but 2 more points in 2 less minutes. Brooks is one of those guys. Not very efficient, points-on-volume sort of players.
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Re: Marshon Brooks 

Post#25 » by bluethunder0005 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:52 pm

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bluethunder0005 wrote:Brooks already was as valuable if not more valuable than Lee this season as a rookie and with him having injury issues during the middle of the season. Lee is a capable defender and 3pt threat worthy of 20 minutes a night as a 7th or 8th man. Brooks is already worthy of that and could actually develop into something better. He has a ton of offensive skill and don't lump him in the same category as Nick Young and Crawford they are not even remotely close to the same type of player.


Well look at Nick Young in Washington - better #s than Brooks. Crawford is pretty similar %s to Young but 2 more points in 2 less minutes. Brooks is one of those guys. Not very efficient, points-on-volume sort of players.


For starters Young is a ball stopper and plays like an idiot. Crawford shoots way too many 3's and that lowers his efficiency. Neither one of them plays smart basketball. Brooks doesn't chuck and he isn't a ball stopper. Not to mention he's already smarter than both of those are in the game of basketball. Then on top of that he is a rookie who had some injury issues and before that his efficiency and shooting %'s were higher.
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Re: Marshon Brooks 

Post#26 » by Klomp » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:54 pm

I think Shved signing takes Brooks off the table
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Re: Marshon Brooks 

Post#27 » by Worm Guts » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:57 pm

Brooks has the shooting efficiency of a chucker, and he was an older rookie (already 23). I think he's very comparable to a Nick Young.
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Re: Marshon Brooks 

Post#28 » by bluethunder0005 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:07 pm

Worm Guts wrote:Brooks has the shooting efficiency of a chucker, and he was an older rookie (already 23). I think he's very comparable to a Nick Young.


45% through the month of January is chucking efficiency level? Then he got hurt and his %'s went down but that's obviously going to happen. Not to mention he can create his own shot and has a ton of offensive weapons. Older rookie doesn't mean much to me in terms of their playstyles. Brooks doesn't hoist up 30 foot shots like Crawford or take highly contested 20 footers like Young does. Both of them have scoring ability they just don't use it properly. Brooks was using it properly till he got hurt.
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Re: Marshon Brooks 

Post#29 » by Worm Guts » Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:13 pm

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Worm Guts wrote:Brooks has the shooting efficiency of a chucker, and he was an older rookie (already 23). I think he's very comparable to a Nick Young.


45% through the month of January is chucking efficiency level? Then he got hurt and his %'s went down but that's obviously going to happen. Not to mention he can create his own shot and has a ton of offensive weapons. Older rookie doesn't mean much to me in terms of their playstyles. Brooks doesn't hoist up 30 foot shots like Crawford or take highly contested 20 footers like Young does. Both of them have scoring ability they just don't use it properly. Brooks was using it properly till he got hurt.


45 percent for a month? That's not impressive. I'm just not impressed by a guy with a 12.9 PER and a .502 TS. I need to see more.
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Re: Marshon Brooks 

Post#30 » by [RCG] » Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:15 pm

bluethunder0005, what is it with you and Brooks? Beasley also had two really good months at the beginning of his two years here. Guys get hot then they return to the mean. Brooks is probably a decent piece to have off the bench but not the type of player the Wolves should be focused on.
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Re: Marshon Brooks 

Post#31 » by bluethunder0005 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:17 pm

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Worm Guts wrote:Brooks has the shooting efficiency of a chucker, and he was an older rookie (already 23). I think he's very comparable to a Nick Young.


45% through the month of January is chucking efficiency level? Then he got hurt and his %'s went down but that's obviously going to happen. Not to mention he can create his own shot and has a ton of offensive weapons. Older rookie doesn't mean much to me in terms of their playstyles. Brooks doesn't hoist up 30 foot shots like Crawford or take highly contested 20 footers like Young does. Both of them have scoring ability they just don't use it properly. Brooks was using it properly till he got hurt.


45 percent for a month? That's not impressive. I'm just not impressed by a guy with a 12.9 PER and a .502 TS. I need to see more.


But you'd rather have a guy who put up a worse PER and has been moved almost every season he's been in the league despite all the so called intangibles he may or may not have? I'm not saying Brooks is gonna turn into Kobe or anything but Lee isn't any better and that's going to be especially true going forward.

It has nothing to do with me liking Brooks, cause I couldn't really care less about him. It's about people wanting Lee and then saying he'd be so much better to have then Brooks which blows my mind. For the same price Brooks will prove to be a more valuable player in this league than Lee will.
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Re: Marshon Brooks 

Post#32 » by Worm Guts » Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:22 pm

Lee plays good defense and hits 40 percent 3's. That's always useful. A guy who dominates the ball and only creates his own inefficient offense is not.
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Re: Marshon Brooks 

Post#33 » by [RCG] » Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:26 pm

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45 percent for a month? That's not impressive. I'm just not impressed by a guy with a 12.9 PER and a .502 TS. I need to see more.


But you'd rather have a guy who put up a worse PER and has been moved almost every season he's been in the league despite all the so called intangibles he may or may not have? I'm not saying Brooks is gonna turn into Kobe or anything but Lee isn't any better and that's going to be especially true going forward.

It has nothing to do with me liking Brooks, cause I couldn't really care less about him. It's about people wanting Lee and then saying he'd be so much better to have then Brooks which blows my mind. For the same price Brooks will prove to be a more valuable player in this league than Lee will.


Well it looks like Brooks is going to be with a new team too. That's two years, two teams.

Lee has a better offensive rating, eFG%, TS% & Win Shares than Brooks.

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