Dwight Howard trade rumor thread (Talks on hold? P. 90)

Shaheen · Post #621 » by **Shaheen** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:13 am

HTown_TMac wrote:
Shaheen wrote:Morey is such a moron. I hope for Rockets fan sakes he doesn't do this.
When Dwight leaves there will literally be nothing left on that team.

Where will Dwight be leaving to?

Anywhere. Houston will be awful next year even with Dwight. They are gutting their team so they can surround Dwight with what exactly?

They will be just as bad as the Magic were. And in the west that barely makes the playoffs.

arkknight1988 · Post #622 » by **arkknight1988** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:14 am

Shaheen wrote:Morey is such a moron. I hope for Rockets fan sakes he doesn't do this.
When Dwight leaves there will literally be nothing left on that team.

u mad??

Shaheen · Post #623 » by **Shaheen** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:14 am

gmoney411 wrote:
Shaheen wrote:Morey is such a moron. I hope for Rockets fan sakes he doesn't do this.
When Dwight leaves there will literally be nothing left on that team.

I don't think a lot of people realize that the Rockets can't trade their 2014 pick in any deal for Howard. If he leaves the Rockets suck and likely end up with a top 5 pick the next year. It's really a win/win for a team stuck in mediocrity.

Or the Rockets could have that pick, all their young players, and all their young picks.

RocketPower23 · Post #624 » by **RocketPower23** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:14 am

RutgersBJJ wrote:People need to stop posting twitter quotes from people who aren't even credible enough to be included in hoopshype's media twitter feed.

Not credible enough for hoopshype. Think about that for a second.

McLaed is legit, trust me. IIRC, he called the Stern-Paul veto trade.

Wavy Q · Post #625 » by **Wavy Q** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:15 am

therealbig3 wrote:
HTown_TMac wrote:
Shaheen wrote:Morey is such a moron. I hope for Rockets fan sakes he doesn't do this.
When Dwight leaves there will literally be nothing left on that team.

Where will Dwight be leaving to?

Could go to Dallas or Atlanta. Leaving Houston for one of those teams is easier than leaving LA.

And general question to people out there:

Couldn't Dwight as a free agent ask Houston (if he's traded there) to do a sign and trade for him to the Nets? Like, if he says "I'm going to Dallas and you're going to get nothing, unless you do a sign and trade and send me to the Nets in the off-season".

Not trying to be a homer, just want to know. Asking because that's what people said D-Will could do if he wanted the Lakers in the off-season.

I'm pretty sure next season sign & trades are prohibited to any team above the luxury tax.

chubby_1_kenobi · Post #626 » by **chubby_1_kenobi** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:15 am

What exactly is Houston offering for Howard? And what will their lineup look like if they do get him?

Shaheen · Post #627 » by **Shaheen** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:15 am

arkknight1988 wrote:
Shaheen wrote:Morey is such a moron. I hope for Rockets fan sakes he doesn't do this.
When Dwight leaves there will literally be nothing left on that team.

u mad??

I don't care. Dwight can go wherever. I've accepted the fact that he's most probably not going to Brooklyn.

kblo247 · Post #628 » by **kblo247** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:15 am

We shall see Tomorrow afternoon I guess

RutgersBJJ · Post #629 » by **RutgersBJJ** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:16 am

therealbig3 wrote:
HTown_TMac wrote:
Shaheen wrote:Morey is such a moron. I hope for Rockets fan sakes he doesn't do this.
When Dwight leaves there will literally be nothing left on that team.

Where will Dwight be leaving to?

Could go to Dallas or Atlanta. Leaving Houston for one of those teams is easier than leaving LA.

And general question to people out there:

Couldn't Dwight as a free agent ask Houston (if he's traded there) to do a sign and trade for him to the Nets? Like, if he says "I'm going to Dallas and you're going to get nothing, unless you do a sign and trade and send me to the Nets in the off-season".

Not trying to be a homer, just want to know. Asking because that's what people said D-Will could do if he wanted the Lakers in the off-season.

starting next season there are no S&Ts for luxury tax teams. So there would be no Nash trade or Camby to the Knicks if that rule was already in place.

So if Dwight isn't a Net in the next 10 days don't expect him to be one ever.

therealbig3 · Post #630 » by **therealbig3** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:16 am

Stephano wrote:I'm pretty sure next season sign & trades are prohibited to any team above the luxury tax.

Oh yeah, I read that somewhere before.

Thanks.

microfib4thewin · Post #631 » by **microfib4thewin** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:16 am

wilhelmthe1st wrote:
microfib4thewin wrote:For the last time, Houston is not going to trade for Bynum on a Dwight trade. For them it's either Dwight or nothing. The Rockets don't have enough pieces around Bynum to contend and it would be difficult to build around Bynum when he's going to be paid nearly as much as Dwight.

okay, are you the ceo or the vp in houston?

And who are you to pretend you have any more authority than the rest of us here? It is simply logic that getting Bynum as the centerpiece doesn't work for a team when they don't have a strong supporting cast. Houston + Bynum - the assets they traded is far from contention, and Bynum is going to be paid 18 mil next year so the Rockets have very little time to build around Bynum before they cap out.

If Dwight is getting moved they will want Dwight to land in Houston. There is no reason to settle for Bynum when a re-signed Bynum will just cripple their cap flexibility while remaining mediocre.

rockynpolo · Post #632 » by **rockynpolo** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:16 am

microfib4thewin wrote:For the last time, Houston is not going to trade for Bynum on a Dwight trade. For them it's either Dwight or nothing. The Rockets don't have enough pieces around Bynum to contend and it would be difficult to build around Bynum when he's going to be paid nearly as much as Dwight.

You honestly think dwight will stay in Houston with what they have there? Do you really? He will leave money on the table for a major market and get back the rest of the money from his adidas enrosement. You can guarantee that. If you thought the lakers were gambling on dwight resigning then the rockets are playing russian roullete with 6 bullets in the chamber. Its your logic that doesn't make sense, the fact that the 3 said teams were already engaged in talks makes you even less credible. Stop posting.

SCourGe OF GoD · Post #633 » by **SCourGe OF GoD** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:16 am

If Orlando dont want to deal with Houston straight up then they would be stupid not to take Bynum. Whats the point of gathering all those mediocore assets and multiple players at the same position if it doesnt amount to anything. Plus Bynum listed Houston as a place on his list of favs

Zedders · Post #634 » by **Zedders** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:17 am

Only problem for Houston is that they have nothing to surround Dwight with to convince him that they are contenders.

arkknight1988 · Post #635 » by **arkknight1988** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:17 am

HOU is going all in. If dwight leaves they tank for a top pick and rebuild the right way. good for them

AcecardZ · Post #636 » by **AcecardZ** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:18 am

Shaheen wrote:
arkknight1988 wrote:
Shaheen wrote:Morey is such a moron. I hope for Rockets fan sakes he doesn't do this.
When Dwight leaves there will literally be nothing left on that team.

u mad??

I don't care. Dwight can go wherever. I've accepted the fact that he's most probably not going to Brooklyn.

Don't feel badly. There's 28 other teams that won't have him either.

arkknight1988 · Post #637 » by **arkknight1988** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:18 am

Zedders wrote:Only problem for Houston is that they have nothing to surround Dwight with to convince him that they are contenders.

Josh smith could join them next summer

Litany · Post #638 » by **Litany** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:19 am

Don Draper wrote:
HTown_TMac wrote:
Shaheen wrote:Morey is such a moron. I hope for Rockets fan sakes he doesn't do this.
When Dwight leaves there will literally be nothing left on that team.

Where will Dwight be leaving to?

Exactly. We have 1 year to change his mind. Might as well.

All it took for Deron was Joe Johnson and Gerald Wallace. And Deron had the option of Dallas with Dirk and playing in his hometown.

I think there is a very good chance he stays in Houston after The Dream works him along with management.

I'd do it.

gmoney411 · Post #639 » by **gmoney411** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:19 am

Shaheen wrote:
gmoney411 wrote:
Shaheen wrote:Morey is such a moron. I hope for Rockets fan sakes he doesn't do this.
When Dwight leaves there will literally be nothing left on that team.

I don't think a lot of people realize that the Rockets can't trade their 2014 pick in any deal for Howard. If he leaves the Rockets suck and likely end up with a top 5 pick the next year. It's really a win/win for a team stuck in mediocrity.

Or the Rockets could have that pick, all their young players, and all their young picks.

They pick would likely be higher with a stripped down team than it would be if we kept our rookies and they developed and won us more games. it's definitely a risk to trade for Howard but it's not as huge as people are making it out to be. Also, if the Rockets realized that Howard really doesn't want to be here they could likely trade him at the deadline for Bynum if the Lakers aren't playing amazingly or something else of value.

SCourGe OF GoD · Post #640 » by **SCourGe OF GoD** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:19 am

rockynpolo wrote:
microfib4thewin wrote:For the last time, Houston is not going to trade for Bynum on a Dwight trade. For them it's either Dwight or nothing. The Rockets don't have enough pieces around Bynum to contend and it would be difficult to build around Bynum when he's going to be paid nearly as much as Dwight.

You honestly think dwight will stay in Houston with what they have there? Do you really? He will leave money on the table for a major market and get back the rest of the money from his adidas enrosement. You can guarantee that. If you thought the lakers were gambling on dwight resigning then the rockets are playing russian roullete with 6 bullets in the chamber.

But , But they have Asik and Parsons...