Dwight Howard trade rumor thread (Talks on hold? P. 90)

Josephpaul · Post #761 » by **Josephpaul** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:39 am

Please be true .

Josephpaul · Post #762 » by **Josephpaul** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:40 am

kombayn wrote:
Jordan45822 wrote:
Chris Sheridan ‏@sheridanhoops
Source on Dwight Howard trade: "It's all coming to a head." Translation: He's being dealt somewhere today.

I still think he's going to the Nets by the end of this.

What makes you say that

bobcatsinfour · Post #763 » by **bobcatsinfour** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:42 am

Josephpaul wrote:
kombayn wrote:I still think he's going to the Nets by the end of this.

What makes you say that

As trash as the nets package is, someone major (Stein maybe?) on Twitter pointed out that it does offer the Magic a combination of a centerpiece (I know sucks, but still) in Lopez, cap relief in moving JRich, and Picks. No other package (yet) offers all 3.

Josephpaul · Post #764 » by **Josephpaul** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:44 am

Eh I think it's between LA / HOU just with what I've seen today

minifang · Post #765 » by **minifang** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:45 am

The only picks that would be useful are the ones from the rockets, depending on the protection they have. Both the Nets and the Lakers picks will be in the 20's.

In that case, cap relief and talent is better. Of course, all three would be ideal.

LakerLegend · Post #766 » by **LakerLegend** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:45 am

Stein said theres a feeling this will drag out a little longer. More conflicting sources. Dont get too excited yet.

chubby_1_kenobi · Post #767 » by **chubby_1_kenobi** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:46 am

microfib4thewin wrote:
chubby_1_kenobi wrote:I am not ignoring it, I just don't think Magic FO is stupid enough to trade Howard for picks while keeping Hedo and J-rich on the roster.

That depends on the Houston package. A good enough cap relief+prospect package should not require Houston to take on Hedo or J-Rich, especially since Dwight won't commit to an extension. The Magic are more likely going to require a salary dump on the Lakers for any Bynum deals, and all we have are smaller bad contracts to send out.

It's been said that the Lakers are willing to take J-rich for expiring. With Ebanks signing a 1 year deal, that becomes more likely.
In terms of trade value alone, Bynum is much higher than whatever picks/prospects Houston have.

If there's any part where they can trump the Lakers offer is (I originally assume) their willingness to take Hedo and J-rich. Since you're saying that they're not even gonna do that, the Lakers offer still make more sense for the Magic.

Shaheen · Post #768 » by **Shaheen** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:46 am

Final prediction:

Nothing will happen tomorrow. This drags out all the summer and the Nets pull out tomorrow. But we'll see what happens.

gotokyo · Post #769 » by **gotokyo** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:46 am

kombayn wrote:
Jordan45822 wrote:
Chris Sheridan ‏@sheridanhoops
Source on Dwight Howard trade: "It's all coming to a head." Translation: He's being dealt somewhere today.

I still think he's going to the Nets by the end of this.

Shaheen must have gotten in his head

Shaheen · Post #770 » by **Shaheen** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:48 am

gotokyo wrote:

Shaheen must have gotten in his head

I've never said that I thought he was going to the Nets throughout this thread. You guys are letting your irrational hate of me paint me into something I am not.

microfib4thewin · Post #771 » by **microfib4thewin** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:51 am

chubby_1_kenobi wrote:It's been said that the Lakers are willing to take J-rich for expiring. With Ebanks signing a 1 year deal, that becomes more likely.
In terms of trade value alone, Bynum is much higher than whatever picks/prospects Houston have.

If there's any part where they can trump the Lakers offer is (I originally assume) their willingness to take Hedo and J-rich. Since you're saying that they're not even gonna do that, the Lakers offer still make more sense for the Magic.

Bynum who is due for a 5 year 100 million extension is not much higher in value than the Houston package if at all. Trading for Bynum gives the Magic very little time to readjust the roster for Bynum, and that could get problematic if they couldn't dump J-Rich or Hedo.

microfib4thewin · Post #772 » by **microfib4thewin** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:53 am

Besides, Hedo is the guy that is truly difficult to move, so I would imagine that any Dwight deal would have the Magic push hard to send Hedo away.

Biscuit · Post #773 » by **Biscuit** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:53 am

Shaheen wrote:
gotokyo wrote:

Shaheen must have gotten in his head

I've never said that I thought he was going to the Nets throughout this thread. You guys are letting your irrational hate of me paint me into something I am not.

Yea whatever Shaheen

kombayn · Post #774 » by **kombayn** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:54 am

Jordan45822 wrote:
Chris Sheridan ‏@sheridanhoops
Source on Dwight Howard trade: "It's all coming to a head." Translation: He's being dealt somewhere today.

I still think he's going to the Nets by the end of this.

What makes you say that

You don't get that close to a deal without the Cavs pulling the rug out from everyone. The Magic probably saw this as one more opportunity to get a look at the trade market for Dwight and will realize for the 3rd time that the Nets offer the best package and accept a Lopez, Humphries, Brooks, Gaines, 3 contract fillers and 4 1st Round picks. I mean Houston is the only team that can compete to tackle the Nets package and all that would happen is the Dwight-circus would move to Houston which would be painfully annoying.

Shaheen · Post #775 » by **Shaheen** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:54 am

Biscuit wrote:Yea whatever Shaheen

Find me a quote ANYWHERE where I said Dwight was going to the Nets or STFU.

I've never been confident in the Nets getting him ever. Mainly because I have no faith in the Magic's FO.

FullCircle · Post #776 » by **FullCircle** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:55 am

Chris Sheridan ‏@sheridanhoops
Dwight Howard saga will be resolved today, source says.

kombayn · Post #777 » by **kombayn** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:57 am

I'll crap my pants if the Hawks pull this one out somehow.

Shaheen · Post #778 » by **Shaheen** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:59 am

FullCircle wrote:
Chris Sheridan ‏@sheridanhoops
Dwight Howard saga will be resolved today, source says.

I sure hope so. The Magic have seen every possibility. Time to make a decision.

Trade for unsigned Bynum and maybe you can give them a bad contract.
Trade for Houstons which is probably gives you a **** load of picks and you can give them bad contracts.
Or Lopez, picks, and taking bad contracts.

Just make a decision Orlando. These offers are not going to change. They will only get worse.

therealbig3 · Post #779 » by **therealbig3** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:00 am

I'm probably going to look incredibly stupid in a few hours, but why the rush to end this today? Could it be because they don't want the Nets to pull out, and so they're going to trade Howard to them?

I can dream, can't I...

chubby_1_kenobi · Post #780 » by **chubby_1_kenobi** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:01 am

microfib4thewin wrote:
chubby_1_kenobi wrote:It's been said that the Lakers are willing to take J-rich for expiring. With Ebanks signing a 1 year deal, that becomes more likely.
In terms of trade value alone, Bynum is much higher than whatever picks/prospects Houston have.

If there's any part where they can trump the Lakers offer is (I originally assume) their willingness to take Hedo and J-rich. Since you're saying that they're not even gonna do that, the Lakers offer still make more sense for the Magic.

Bynum who is due for a 5 year 100 million extension is not much higher in value than the Houston package if at all. Trading for Bynum gives the Magic very little time to readjust the roster for Bynum, and that could get problematic if they couldn't dump J-Rich or Hedo.

I'd like to hear your rationale on how Houston's prospects have higher trade value than a 24 year old all star Center.