*Felton traded to the Knicks. Knicks not matching Lin?

keyindabox · Post #1601 » by **keyindabox** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:01 am

Why is everyone jumping off a building about this? Am I the only one who's crazy enough to think that we are going to match Lin still?

Knicks80_20 · Post #1602 » by **Knicks80_20** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:02 am

polarbears815 wrote:
Same here. Would totally understand them being angry if true. But weren't people also reporting that the Knicks would match? So even if Lin did tell the Rockets that, weren't the Knicks also saying they'd match all along?

It's easier for people to believe Lin whispered this secret confidential information into Morey's ear during negotiations. Because that's clearly the more likely situation.

DaLeeDa · Post #1603 » by **DaLeeDa** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:02 am

orangepassion wrote:Can we make any moves without trading a draft pick? It's like we're allergic to them.

We love giving away them picks don't we? Sad the fans forgive management for this all the time. They've gotten conditioned to us giving away picks.

putiger78 · Post #1604 » by **putiger78** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:02 am

HawthorneWingo wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:im sticking with my original position that felton is backup, lin starts, kidd is the sg starter and jr the backup

i think if billups can start next to paul, kidd can start next to lin

having said that, if lin leaves, and I guess I cant rule that out, there will be a non money reason involved

According to Felton, the Knicks told him that they're not matching the Rockets offer to Lin.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baske ... mment=true

Doesn't say that. Come on.

Jay10 · Post #1605 » by **Jay10** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:03 am

[quote="polarbears815"][quote="Red Vines"][quote="[GR]"][quote="JimmyDolan"]The Knicks were bitter because they told Lin the club would match the original offer and Lin apparently shared the information with the Rockets, who decided to raise it. The free agency started off with acrimony on July 1` when the Knicks decided to let Lin set his market value instead of making him an offer.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/k ... z20f7R9CBC

**** ingrate.
:[quote]
Agreed; what a weasel move.[quote]

If that's true, I can understand why they're pissed.[quote]

Same here. Would totally understand them being angry if true. But weren't people also reporting that the Knicks would match? So even if Lin did tell the Rockets that, weren't the Knicks also saying they'd match all along? :dontknow:

[quote]

I think they meant $1B if it was the first offer, but for him to go back to the rockets and have them change the contract pissed them off.

EchelonNYK · Post #1606 » by **EchelonNYK** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:03 am

keyindabox wrote:Why is everyone jumping off a building about this? Am I the only one who's crazy enough to think that we are going to match Lin still?

We're now flooded with guards. You can't overlook that.

SelbyCobra · Post #1607 » by **SelbyCobra** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:03 am

HawthorneWingo wrote:According to Felton, the Knicks told him that they're not matching the Rockets offer to Lin.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baske ... mment=true

Welcome to the very first post of this thread. :lol:

ZeroStatic2 · Post #1608 » by **ZeroStatic2** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:03 am

Tommy Beer: If Houston is willing to sign him to that type of $$, Lin obviously has solid value league-wide. Losing an asset for nothing is bad business 2 minutes ago

Tommy Beer: Even if NY thought Lin wasn't good at basketball, letting him walk now makes no sense. Match the offer and trade him down the road (cont). 4 minutes ago

Orange Mamba · Post #1609 » by **Orange Mamba** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:03 am

21shumpst wrote:1m Jared Dubin ‏@JADubin5
When Felton was in NY: Knicks O-Rtg with Felton on court: 107.6. With Felton off the court: 108.2.

Jared Dubin ‏@JADubin5
So even in what was probably the best 54-game sample of his career, Felton's offense was better when he wasn't in the game.

Wasn't some metric like that used against Melo as well?

Greenie · Post #1610 » by **Greenie** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:04 am

Jay10 wrote:
greenhughes wrote:
Kidknick! wrote:If Lin does go, i will be glad to see the Jeremy Lin fan brigade go to Houston too.

this

would you say "this" if it were:?

yeah
cause he sucks as a B-ball player

DocZaius · Post #1611 » by **DocZaius** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:05 am

still no details on Felton's contract

21shumpst · Post #1612 » by **21shumpst** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:05 am

Knicks80_20 wrote:
polarbears815 wrote:
Same here. Would totally understand them being angry if true. But weren't people also reporting that the Knicks would match? So even if Lin did tell the Rockets that, weren't the Knicks also saying they'd match all along?

It's easier for people to believe Lin whispered this secret confidential information into Morey's ear during negotiations. Because that's clearly the more likely situation.

Didn't Woodson pretty much come out and say they were going to match and that Lin was his starting PG? What secret info did Lin give the Rox. The head coach of the Knicks was spouting this very secretive info to the papers not too long ago.

putiger78 · Post #1613 » by **putiger78** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:05 am

echelonNYK wrote:
keyindabox wrote:Why is everyone jumping off a building about this? Am I the only one who's crazy enough to think that we are going to match Lin still?

We're now flooded with guards. You can't overlook that.

We have one healthy SG.. you are overlooking that. To me, we decided to sign a GOOD PG with the understanding one or more of our PGs will play a lot of SG, rather than sign a BAD SG.

Jay10 · Post #1614 » by **Jay10** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:05 am

[quote="greenhughes"][quote="Jay10"][quote="greenhughes"][quote="Kidknick!"]If Lin does go, i will be glad to see the Jeremy Lin fan brigade go to Houston too.[quote]
this[quote][quote][quote]

would you say "this" if it were:

?

[quote]
yeah
cause he sucks as a B-ball player[quote]

who's the new person?

mhi · Post #1615 » by **mhi** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:05 am

No way to match. Finances simply don't work due to the new CBA and the harsh luxury tax payments it brings.

Ken Berger wrote:
Look at it this way: Even if the league did unspeakably well in the next two seasons and the luxury tax line rose from its current level of $70.3 million to $80 million in '14-'15, every player the Knicks added beyond those five would count multiples of their salaries with the tax. Even if the Knicks could add seven more players at a total salary of $10 million -- not likely -- the total cost for those players would be $25.3 million with the new tax rates factored in.

guardplay320 · Post #1616 » by **guardplay320** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:05 am

putiger78 wrote:
HawthorneWingo wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:im sticking with my original position that felton is backup, lin starts, kidd is the sg starter and jr the backup

i think if billups can start next to paul, kidd can start next to lin

having said that, if lin leaves, and I guess I cant rule that out, there will be a non money reason involved

According to Felton, the Knicks told him that they're not matching the Rockets offer to Lin.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baske ... mment=true

Doesn't say that. Come on.

"However, Felton told WPDE-TV, the ABC affiliate in Myrtle Beach, that the Knicks were no longer pursuing Lin."

nykinoz · Post #1617 » by **nykinoz** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:06 am

Do we know who the euros are?

DaLeeDa · Post #1618 » by **DaLeeDa** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:06 am

DocZaius wrote:still no details on Felton's contract

They're not done negotiating. Trade is not final.

Sideline Story · Post #1619 » by **Sideline Story** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:06 am

keyindabox wrote:Why is everyone jumping off a building about this? Am I the only one who's crazy enough to think that we are going to match Lin still?

Don't worry, there's still some of us.

Knicks80_20 · Post #1620 » by **Knicks80_20** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:06 am

BKrab3 wrote:
21shumpst wrote:1m Jared Dubin ‏@JADubin5
When Felton was in NY: Knicks O-Rtg with Felton on court: 107.6. With Felton off the court: 108.2.

Jared Dubin ‏@JADubin5
So even in what was probably the best 54-game sample of his career, Felton's offense was better when he wasn't in the game.

Wasn't some metric like that used against Melo as well?

Doubt it -- if so, the sample of games used would have to be very narrow. Melo has a high ORTg and performs reasonably well based on advanced stats.