Felton traded to Knicks; Not matching Lin? (part 2)

Red Vines · Post #601 » by **Red Vines** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:18 pm

SAS: Dolan can change his mind on a whim.

Fusionx50 · Post #602 » by **Fusionx50** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:18 pm

crazybranman360 wrote:Do people relize that Felton is a much better fit with our team than Lin? You can argue all you want that Lin is the "more talented" player but, Felton fits our team WAY better.

And Lin very unproven

I don't see how Felton is a better fit. He played well the 1st time he was here with Amare but this is Melo's team now. I don't see him playing as well this 2nd time around especially without D'Antoni

polarbears815 · Post #603 » by **polarbears815** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:18 pm

KnicksGod wrote:I see only one small hope here -- perhaps the Knicks are really putting on a full-court press to see if Lin will agree to withdraw the offer sheet.

Because I don't think the Rockets want this on their books either, since it hamstrings them with Melo. This whole offer sheet process is absolute crap and rigged with nonsense.

So maybe -- small chance -- they're trying to force Lin into taking it back because he probably doesn't want to be in Houston. But this is a conspiracy theory.

You mean hamstrings them from getting Howard right? But I see what you are saying.

Post #604 » by **K_ick_God** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:19 pm

Let's hope for the best. Still 2 days for the Knicks to step back from the cliff's edge.

If the worst happens, you soldier on. Life has disappointments and tragedies -- this would be both but it's just sports lol -- I just feel bad for Knicks fans. We deserved a lot better.

I hope things change in the next 48. I'll be checking in occasionally.

Woodsanity · Post #605 » by **Woodsanity** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:19 pm

greenhughes wrote:
BeagleBoss wrote:
akapeter wrote:Lin is not worth 30 Million.

Considering how much money Lin made and will make the Knicks, yes he is.

Basketball wise he is not.

MARKETING WISE HE'S WORTH MORE.

Which makes it silly not to keep him. If we let him walk we get nothing in return and if we keep him Dolan actually makes profit from his marketability. I don't get what the Knicks are trying to pull.

Post #606 » by **K_ick_God** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:19 pm

polarbears815 wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:I see only one small hope here -- perhaps the Knicks are really putting on a full-court press to see if Lin will agree to withdraw the offer sheet.

Because I don't think the Rockets want this on their books either, since it hamstrings them with Melo. This whole offer sheet process is absolute crap and rigged with nonsense.

So maybe -- small chance -- they're trying to force Lin into taking it back because he probably doesn't want to be in Houston. But this is a conspiracy theory.

You mean hamstrings them from getting Howard right? But I see what you are saying.

Dwight yes, my bad.

Greenie · Post #607 » by **Greenie** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:20 pm

ORANGEandBLUE wrote:
Red Vines wrote:Rod Boone ‏@rodboone
Melo said he hasn't spoken with anyone in the #Knicks organization to see what's going to happen with Lin.

If this is true it reflects poorly on Melo.

How?

crazybranman360 · Post #608 » by **crazybranman360** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:20 pm

Fusionx50 wrote:
crazybranman360 wrote:Do people relize that Felton is a much better fit with our team than Lin? You can argue all you want that Lin is the "more talented" player but, Felton fits our team WAY better.

And Lin very unproven

I don't see how Felton is a better fit. He played well the 1st time he was here with Amare but this is Melo's team now. I don't see him playing as well this 2nd time around especially without D'Antoni

He plays defense, runs pick and rolls with Amare, and most importantly is wired as a distributer

EchelonNYK · Post #609 » by **EchelonNYK** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:20 pm

When can anything be official? This waiting is draining.

KingzAndQueenz · Post #610 » by **KingzAndQueenz** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:20 pm

ORANGEandBLUE wrote:
Red Vines wrote:Rod Boone ‏@rodboone
Melo said he hasn't spoken with anyone in the #Knicks organization to see what's going to happen with Lin.

If this is true it reflects poorly on Melo.

The dude is practicing for the **** Olympics and spending time with his buddies, why the **** does that reflect poorly on him. He's enjoying a once in a lifetime experience.

AmazingJason · Post #611 » by **AmazingJason** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:20 pm

greenhughes wrote:
ORANGEandBLUE wrote:
Red Vines wrote:Rod Boone ‏@rodboone
Melo said he hasn't spoken with anyone in the #Knicks organization to see what's going to happen with Lin.

If this is true it reflects poorly on Melo.

How?

Melo should be doing everything in his power to bring him back...

polarbears815 · Post #612 » by **polarbears815** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:20 pm

crazybranman360 wrote:
polarbears815 wrote:
crazybranman360 wrote:Do people relize that Felton is a much better fit with our team than Lin? You can argue all you want that Lin is the "more talented" player but, Felton fits our team WAY better.

And Lin very unproven

There's an article out there with stats by Synergy posted on ESPN.com that proves otherwise. (http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_ ... s-lin-sane) So you can either choose to believe what you believe, or believe the stats. I admit, stats can lie too. But since I'm a stats person, I'll choose to believe what the stats say. And they say Lin is actually a better fit.

problem with those stats is they were in Feltons worst year and probably Jeremy Lins best. He's not going to be out of shape next season and should be much improved.

Also says that Felton hit the roll man (Amare) in Pick and Rolls while Lin usually hits spot up shooters. We need to get Amare involved, so like I said, better fit

Well, this was basically Lin's rookie year so unless you don't believe he will improve, I guess you could say that. I definitely think Lin will improve. Also who knows what shape Felton is going to be in? If he's fat now, it already signals a lack of motivation.

Michael_Scott · Post #613 » by **Michael_Scott** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:21 pm

i posted this in another thread and I'm curious how you guys feel about this.

I hate to say things like this, but ever since the middle of this past season this has been glaringly obvious to me: If Lin was black rather than Asian, SAS would LOVE him. Would absolutely LOVE him. It's not a question in my mind. If there was a young black PG who averaged 18 and 8 in 25 games as a starter, SAS would absolutely be drooling. But he is Asian, so SAS considers him a marginal player.

ORANGEandBLUE · Post #614 » by **ORANGEandBLUE** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:21 pm

So is it completely unrealistic to think that fan backlash can influence Dolan's decision? And if so, what's the best way for us to be part of that backlash? Maybe we should scrap #fireisola and start with #matchlin? Just a thought.

DaLeeDa · Post #615 » by **DaLeeDa** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:21 pm

Question: If the Knicks sign Lin. How hard is it to trade him with a poison pill 3rd year? Will other teams have to fork out 14.9 million for the 3rd year like we will or can they average out the remaining years like Houston could?

Jay10 · Post #616 » by **Jay10** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:21 pm

SAS is delivering the ether to jeremy. :lol:

Woodsanity · Post #617 » by **Woodsanity** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:21 pm

polarbears815 wrote:
crazybranman360 wrote:Do people relize that Felton is a much better fit with our team than Lin? You can argue all you want that Lin is the "more talented" player but, Felton fits our team WAY better.

And Lin very unproven

There's an article out there with stats by Synergy posted on ESPN.com that proves otherwise. (http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_ ... s-lin-sane) So you can either choose to believe what you believe, or believe the stats. I admit, stats can lie too. But since I'm a stats person, I'll choose to believe what the stats say. And they say Lin is actually a better fit.

Not to mention Felton got fat and lazy.
Lin has more upside and is better than him in pretty much every regard.

H_20 · Post #618 » by **H_20** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:21 pm

AmazingJason wrote:
Melo should be doing everything in his power to bring him back...

Are you f*cking serious???? Holy Sh*t.... :lol:

Blue Ninja · Post #619 » by **Blue Ninja** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:22 pm

I'd match the offer and give Lin 5 minutes a game just to stick it to him and these bandwagoners, then trade him next year.

Da_Mane_Man · Post #620 » by **Da_Mane_Man** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:22 pm

Michael_Scott wrote:i posted this in another thread and I'm curious how you guys feel about this.

I hate to say things like this, but ever since the middle of this past season this has been glaringly obvious to me: If Lin was black rather than Asian, SAS would LOVE him. Would absolutely LOVE him. It's not a question in my mind. If there was a young black PG who averaged 18 and 8 in 25 games as a starter, SAS would absolutely be drooling. But he is Asian, so SAS considers him a marginal player.

i agree.