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Done with NYK if Lin is not matched ?

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Are you done with the knicks if Lin is not matched ?

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Re: Done with NYK if Lin is not matched ? 

Post#241 » by Manhattan Project » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:27 pm

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Re: Done with NYK if Lin is not matched ? 

Post#242 » by PainKiller » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:32 pm

Felton is a chucker.. dude is lazy and out of shape.. He may have some decent games, but he's already a product. you know what you're getting.

Lin a hard worker, dude relentlessly attacks the basket.. he's got a ton of heart and isn't afraid of taking the big shot. very marketable and has a ton of upside..
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Re: Done with NYK if Lin is not matched ? 

Post#243 » by stevieg987 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:34 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:Sure is alot of folks that root for the BACK of the jersey in here.........


What is the jersey? A parasitic, corporatized entity headed by a petty, childish, insecure drunk? Face it, that's the "jersey" at this point. It's demonic to root for this team.
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Re: Done with NYK if Lin is not matched ? 

Post#244 » by j4remi » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:34 pm

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A) I'm not arguing this with you. If you can't tell who has a bigger impact on the game, I don't even know what the hell you're watching.

B) Lin never got a chance to play. Felton has, and he sucks everywhere.

C) It's not just about Melo and Amar'e, it's about having talent. Jason Kidd helps them and helps Lin improve as a PG.

D) What if is our only shot a title. I'm taking the risk over assured mediocrity.


A) Did you become a Knicks fan last year? Or are you conveniently forgetting Felton's time with the Knicks when people were pissed he didn't get an all-star nod? How's that for impact? Again, being emotional is fine but stop letting it cloud your perception.

B) Felton was good in Charlotte where he played majority of his career. He was good in NY. He was solid in Denver and sucked in Portland. That's why his career numbers are solid. He's always been a solid PG.

C) It's not JUST about Melo and Amare but it sure as hell isn't just about Lin. On a roster where there are three players who are more talented at least, don't give me "Lin is the key" argument because he's not. With a good PG this team has enough talent to compete for a title right now. It went an insane run with just Melo and Baron Davis.

D) What if isn't our only shot at the title nor is this situation assured mediocrity. Stop being over dramatic just because Lin might be gone. If you were pegging our title hopes on a 23 year old who was good for 20 games only...all I can say is, are you serious?
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Re: Done with NYK if Lin is not matched ? 

Post#245 » by DocZaius » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:35 pm

Nets are gonna profit big time from this blunder
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Re: Done with NYK if Lin is not matched ? 

Post#246 » by Hodges4Three » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:37 pm

jstudabaka wrote:I am absolutely not done with the Knicks if they don't match Lin. I liked Lin and was hoping to see him back under the terms of the original contract offered by the Rockets. But the way I see the current situation is that Glen Grunwald is skating circles around other GM's, even the "brainiac" Morey. The Raptors and Rockets tried to play us by jacking up the price on our players, and both got stuck holding the bag. So much for Morey's brilliant plan of not overpaying players who aren't "franchise cornerstones." With the Felton deal, Grunwald owned him so bad. Felton may actually be better than Lin for all we know. I'm by no means a Lin hater, but he's being tendered a contract that will pay him 15 MILLION DOLLARS on the back end. This based on what, twenty-something odd games in MDA's speedball, no-D system?

Keep up the good work Glen GODwald.


lol Felton's only good season was under "MDA's speedball, no-D system"... Even then he still only mustered a 17 PER. Jeremy's PER was almost 20 last season, including the games he was under Woodson and on the bench.
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Re: Done with NYK if Lin is not matched ? 

Post#247 » by Fat Kat » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:40 pm

rleandry112 wrote:When you go, stay gone.


+1. But people with little character or conviction will rarely stick to their word. I'll bookmark this thread for future reference, but I suspect that most of these guys are just overly emotional children.

I've been a fan for over 30 years and this hardly registers as a blip. This is coming from a huge Jeremy Lin fan.
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Re: Done with NYK if Lin is not matched ? 

Post#248 » by Signature NYK » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:40 pm

Anyone who voted yes should be ashamed of themselves and in all honesty should stop watching the Knicks right now regardless of whether we match lin or not. People over here being fans of players instead of the team. SMDH Pathetic.
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Re: Done with NYK if Lin is not matched ? 

Post#249 » by H_20 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:41 pm

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Re: Done with NYK if Lin is not matched ? 

Post#250 » by BimboColes » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:41 pm

On the real though, Dolan and company seem to think that they're invinceable and that NY will always be a Knicks town, which most people agree with. With that said, this offseason has been a perfect storm and if they're not careful people are gonna start switching hardcore. If the Knicks **** up for another ten years and the Nets continue to be managed better (theyre a team in Brooklyn owned by Jayz? They have a real opportunity to be the coolest franchise in sports), then why the hell would a kid choose to become a Knicks fan over a Nets fan?

The second tier NY teams (Jets, Mets) are teams that have continually been mismanaged while their counterpart's front offices are run far more efficiently. Now that this is year 1 of there being 2 NY teams, why would the Knicks not fall to 2nd over time if they prove to be the continually mismanaged team?
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Re: Done with NYK if Lin is not matched ? 

Post#251 » by NyKnicks1714 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:43 pm

I think people are misunderstanding why some people claim they'll be done with the team if Lin isn't matched. It's not about Lin, it's about the stupidity and incompetence of our ownership and management.
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Re: Done with NYK if Lin is not matched ? 

Post#252 » by Fat Kat » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:45 pm

NyKnicks1714 wrote:I think people are misunderstanding why some people claim they'll be done with the team if Lin isn't matched. It's not about Lin, it's about the stupidity and incompetence of our ownership and management.


No problem. I hope they leave. Why be a drama queen about the whole thing.
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Re: Done with NYK if Lin is not matched ? 

Post#253 » by Fury » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:47 pm

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Fury wrote:
A) I'm not arguing this with you. If you can't tell who has a bigger impact on the game, I don't even know what the hell you're watching.

B) Lin never got a chance to play. Felton has, and he sucks everywhere.

C) It's not just about Melo and Amar'e, it's about having talent. Jason Kidd helps them and helps Lin improve as a PG.

D) What if is our only shot a title. I'm taking the risk over assured mediocrity.


A) Did you become a Knicks fan last year? Or are you conveniently forgetting Felton's time with the Knicks when people were pissed he didn't get an all-star nod? How's that for impact? Again, being emotional is fine but stop letting it cloud your perception.

B) Felton was good in Charlotte where he played majority of his career. He was good in NY. He was solid in Denver and sucked in Portland. That's why his career numbers are solid. He's always been a solid PG.

C) It's not JUST about Melo and Amare but it sure as hell isn't just about Lin. On a roster where there are three players who are more talented at least, don't give me "Lin is the key" argument because he's not. With a good PG this team has enough talent to compete for a title right now. It went an insane run with just Melo and Baron Davis.

D) What if isn't our only shot at the title nor is this situation assured mediocrity. Stop being over dramatic just because Lin might be gone. If you were pegging our title hopes on a 23 year old who was good for 20 games only...all I can say is, are you serious?


A) Felton was good for a few weeks. He still can't run the pick and roll, takes bad shots, and isn't great at finishing or a good passer.

B) He was a disappointment in Charlotte. Good stretch in NY, terrible elsewhere.

C) It's about EVERYONE. We need EVERYONE.

D) Yes I am.
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Re: Done with NYK if Lin is not matched ? 

Post#254 » by Context » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:48 pm

Fury wrote:We just spent a total of like 44 million over 3 years on the contracts of Novak, Felton, Camby, and Kidd and now suddenly, FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY! Some of you are a joke.

I was making this point to my friend :lol:

That's why I'll say, until I see the Knicks "not match". I won't believe a word of it. This organization isn't that inept...
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Re: Done with NYK if Lin is not matched ? 

Post#255 » by j4remi » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:52 pm

Fury wrote:
A) Felton was good for a few weeks. He still can't run the pick and roll, takes bad shots, and isn't great at finishing or a good passer.

B) He was a disappointment in Charlotte. Good stretch in NY, terrible elsewhere.

C) It's about EVERYONE. We need EVERYONE.

D) Yes I am.


A) Felton's pick and roll play has one advantage over Lin's that bodes well for us, he hits the roll man more often while Lin hits the spot up shooters outside (granted I'm going off of that article comparing Lin to Felton last season only). That means Felton's PnR game could help Amare a lot. Beyond that, they had similar passing efficiency last season. Lin was really just a superior scorer off the PnR...so it's not like there's a massive discrepancy.

B) He was a disappointment in Charlotte because of his high draft position. That doesn't mean he "sucked"...he was solid, always has been minus last season. He was solid for Denver too, not good but decent.

C) Give me 3 positional upgrades and 1 downgrade (that's not even a certain down grade) over one guy who might, maybe develop into a star on a max contract.

D) Then how come you weren't pissed at this organization long ago, because that's RIDICULOUS as a premise for hope.
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Re: Done with NYK if Lin is not matched ? 

Post#256 » by TheToothFairy » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:57 pm

NyKnicks1714 wrote:I think people are misunderstanding why some people claim they'll be done with the team if Lin isn't matched. It's not about Lin, it's about the stupidity and incompetence of our ownership and management.


This


What you guys fail to understand is that as Fans the management has a responsibility to their customers .

This move doesn't make us better, our owner is rich and has paid way more for much less in the past.

Lin got paid 700K last Season but probably generated 700Milliom dollars

He was given to us for nothing and to lose him for nothing is irresponsible and unforgivable
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Re: Done with NYK if Lin is not matched ? 

Post#257 » by SonOfMars » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:58 pm

Our ownership and management have been terrible for over a decade..

What makes this the final straw? :-?
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Re: Done with NYK if Lin is not matched ? 

Post#258 » by TheToothFairy » Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:00 pm

Mac1Money wrote:Our ownership and management have been terrible for over a decade..

What makes this the final straw? :-?



The fact that we for this guy for free and a gift and we squander it when we have paid for bums like Curry and Jerom James
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Re: Done with NYK if Lin is not matched ? 

Post#259 » by Guano » Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:00 pm

Awoooga wrote:I was a fan before Lin and I will remain one if he leaves. This is getting crazy.


Agree with the first part. As for the second, it's always been crazy being a Knicks fan.
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Re: Done with NYK if Lin is not matched ? 

Post#260 » by SpReEfOrAlL » Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:01 pm

Am I done? Of course not. Would i be disgusted by it? Absolutely. This is just pure foolishness. We over pay absolutes scrubs and cancers for a decade. But then refuse to spend money on Lin. I hope Dolan gets hit by a truck.

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