Re: Felton traded to Knicks; Not matching Lin? (part 3)

makeitstop · Post #1081 » by **makeitstop** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:25 am

Yeah, okay, enough drama for now.

Continue panicking and reading between the lines. I got work to do.

GetItDone · Post #1082 » by **GetItDone** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:25 am

Im starting to believe Dolan is just trolling Morey.

If we're not matching, why wait at all? Just decline and move on.

I think we'll match Tuesday at the last hour.

Red Vines · Post #1083 » by **Red Vines** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:26 am

Dolan won't pay tens of millions in luxury taxes, he might match Lin but then it will begin a process of figuring out who will stay and who will go before that 3rd year balloon payment hits. That's what we should do though, bring back Lin and figure it out from there.

Stannis · Post #1084 » by **Stannis** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:26 am

Just view it as 8,8,8 for a second. Is it really that bad? Knicks have no choice but to pay it in 5,5,15. Nonetheless, Lin will be getting the same amount of money.

RHODEY · Post #1085 » by **RHODEY** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:26 am

NYKat wrote:LOL at Knicks fans...

Jeremy Lin forces the team to overpay from the Rockets and gets defended

JR Smith gets underpaid just to come back to the franchise and gets reamed...

you people are so backwards

I guess this is a case of Lin's ethnicity working against him

Never Wrong · Post #1086 » by **Never Wrong** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:26 am

CoolKids wrote:no you dont. He said the contract was ridiculous. Has nothing but good things to say about Lin and playing with him. Just because he isnt being a big cry baby about Lin possibly leaving like half of this board doesnt mean he is jealous

And that's the quote we're talking about as opposed to no quotes from Lin supporting the "he's frosty" sentiment. Now, if Melo came out and said he didn't say that, then it'd be the same situation.

Greenie · Post #1087 » by **Greenie** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:26 am

SelbyCobra wrote:The most entertaining solution for me right now would be for Dolan to go full-bore evil rich guy, match, and call Lin into his office after the dust settles.

Dolan: "Jeremy, let me ask you something. How did you, as a Harvard educated young man, think that it was wise to f*ck with a billionaire over a few million?

Lin: [taken aback] Well...I...

Dolan: No, don't answer that. My number guys all advised me that it was foolish to match - that I'd be hemorrhaging money in the third year of the deal.

Lin: Why do it then?

Dolan: Because I can, Jeremy; because I can. I realized, after the initial shock/anger of the reworking of your offer sheet, that I'm going to enjoy owning your career for the next three years, no matter what the cost.

Lin: [shocked] Wait, what?

Dolan: Go downstairs now, run along. Enjoy the locker room and spending the next 3 years with guys who resent you being overpaid due to your ethnicity.

Lin: What? They're my teammates, they don't -

Dolan: - Oh, I forgot to mention that we had a team event last night where I announced to the organization that I had chosen to personally match your offer sheet because of how much revenue you bring in for off-court reasons.

Lin: ...

Dolan: Your nickname in this office will forever be "My Baker", because you're going to make me so much cake, young man. I think Woody is waiting for you at practice - you shouldn't be late. You might want to avoid being alone with Felton and/or JR for a while, too. I'm so glad you're a Knick, Jeremy, so glad.

NYK210 · Post #1088 » by **NYK210** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:26 am

Jstarks3 wrote:relax guys. we'll match. we're just trolling houston. HARD.

what makes you so sure?

Stannis · Post #1089 » by **Stannis** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:26 am

Never Wrong wrote:
Shpati21 wrote:People need to view it as 8 million a year, even though he is making 15 in that just one year.

If you have an agenda, it's 15mil/yr. People ignore that the first two years are only 5mil/yr.

EXACTLY! 5 million for the first 2 years is nothing.

ORANGEandBLUE · Post #1090 » by **ORANGEandBLUE** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:26 am

kosmovitelli wrote:
Knicksrule2k4 wrote:It's like any other job, if you have been doing it for 10 years and made 20/hr and you found out a new guy who just came in is making 25/hr, you would be jealous too.

If that guy helps your company make a lot of money and you benefit from his work then I guess you can be ok with that. Especially if like Melo, Amare and Tyson, you're still paid much more money than the new executive. And let's not forget Lin was on a minimum salary contract the past two years.

Yeah, it's one thing for JR to feel that way, but it sounded like he was talking about other players too. PRetty much everybody else should be **** ecstatic with the money they're getting.

GetItDone · Post #1091 » by **GetItDone** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:26 am

spre8well wrote:
CoolKids wrote:so many battered women in these threads

you meant JR & ME-lo right? For being butthurt over Lin getting paid?

Seriously.

If anything Melo should give some of his salary of last season to Lin for saving his ass from missing the playoffs.

devv83 · Post #1092 » by **devv83** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:27 am

ORANGEandBLUE wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:This is just outright false, KG. Melo's own quote starts with him describing the contract's third year as a "wrench" thrown into the equation. It's pretty clear what he was talking about.

It's really not about the quote. Ton of people have been reporting that there was some bad blood.

Who? because let's than a week ago melo during a interview said he wanted Lin back, so when did the bad blood start?

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CoolKids · Post #1093 » by **CoolKids** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:28 am

Never Wrong wrote:
CoolKids wrote:no you dont. He said the contract was ridiculous. Has nothing but good things to say about Lin and playing with him. Just because he isnt being a big cry baby about Lin possibly leaving like half of this board doesnt mean he is jealous

And that's the quote we're talking about as opposed to no quotes from Lin supporting the "he's frosty" sentiment. Now, if Melo came out and said he didn't say that, then it'd be the same situation.

What is jealous about that? It is ridiculous. End of story. Doesnt mean he is jealous or mad that Lin is getting it. It was just an honest statement.

Lightning25 · Post #1094 » by **Lightning25** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:28 am

Shpati21 wrote:
Jstarks3 wrote:relax guys. we'll match. we're just trolling houston. HARD.

Doubt it after what Melo and JR Smith said. Why would Lin want to come back now?

Lin doesn't have a choice if the Knicks match it.

Just like Gordon didn't have a choice when he told NOH to stay the hell away from him.

DocZaius · Post #1095 » by **DocZaius** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:28 am

GetItDone wrote:Im starting to believe Dolan is just trolling Morey.

If we're not matching, why wait at all? Just decline and move on.

I think we'll match Tuesday at the last hour.

why get Felton then?

21shumpst · Post #1096 » by **21shumpst** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:28 am

BigE86 wrote:
Grinditout wrote:
It seems you are ignoring everyone telling you that Knicks/Dolan have a history of overspending and have the unlimited resources to do so. How did guys like Eddy Curry/Jerome James/Allan Houston get money from the Knicks? Wasn't Dolan willing to overpay for them?

Sigh. No offense, but it's difficult to talk to people on this board when they are full of emotion. Just because the Knicks have a history of being frivolous doesn't mean they need to continue to be frivolous. In my opinion the only bad contract that we own right now is Amar'es. Lin is coming off of surgery, and played only a third of a season before he seriously injured himself. It could end up that the Knicks might just add another bad contract. It could be wrong. But I'm tired of the Knicks overpaying for lottery tickets. We did it with JJ, Eddy Curry, Allan Houston, etc. It needs to stop eventually. And Grunwald has been, in my opinion, giving out completely fair deals.

Novak????

E86 · Post #1097 » by **E86** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:28 am

Shpati21 wrote:Just view it as 8,8,8 for a second. Is it really that bad? Knicks have no choice but to pay it in 5,5,15. Nonetheless, Lin will be getting the same amount of money.

8,8,8 is still a sketchy deal for a player with a 1/3 of a season played plus a season ending injury. He could be a decent player, or he can end up being McDyess. It's still a gamble no matter how many people here want to believe Lin is a sure thing.

Pharmcat · Post #1098 » by **Pharmcat** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:29 am

Jstarks3 wrote:relax guys. we'll match. we're just trolling houston. HARD.

i was sure bout this last night

but now I think hes a goner

ORANGEandBLUE · Post #1099 » by **ORANGEandBLUE** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:29 am

devv83 wrote:
ORANGEandBLUE wrote:It's really not about the quote. Ton of people have been reporting that there was some bad blood.

Who? because let's than a week ago melo during a interview said he wanted Lin back, so when did the bad blood start?

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No, today... on ESPN for example Adande was saying there was a falling out between Lin and the team.

NOOB77 · Post #1100 » by **NOOB77** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:29 am

DocZaius wrote:
GetItDone wrote:Im starting to believe Dolan is just trolling Morey.

If we're not matching, why wait at all? Just decline and move on.

I think we'll match Tuesday at the last hour.

why get Felton then?

To replace Fields?