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Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII

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Re: Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII 

Post#341 » by juxtaposition » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:25 am

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I always thought if there was one guy in the NBA who could handle the bright lights... or the media scrutiny it would be him...


Well I think he can.

I used to think he came off as almost flippant, he seemed to laugh or smile at the most uncomfortable moments on the court but then I realize that I do the same sort of thing, like laughing at myself when I goof. And it would get interpreted as me being casual and uncaring if I screw something up.

Melo strikes me as someone who's first instinct is to have a laugh at his expense or the situation for whatever reason (defense mechanism, tension diffusion whatever).

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Re: Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII 

Post#342 » by LINIZALLSTAR » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:25 am

When I wake up, at like 12, this better be on like part 10.
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Re: Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII 

Post#343 » by NoLayupRule » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:30 am

I wonder what people will have to say if it turns out, as rumored, that Grunwald wanted Lin gone and Dolan insisted he resign him

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@IanBegley @BillyBauer1 @TheNBA_Insider I think he is the real deal! from speaking to him, he says Dolan has overruled Grunwald to get Lin

how will people justify their constant scapegoating? or will they just move over to Felton and Amare again?
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Re: Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII 

Post#344 » by Mr_Perfect » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:34 am

NoLayupRule wrote:I wonder what people will have to say if it turns out, as rumored, that Grunwald wanted Lin gone and Dolan insisted he resign him

Royce Leather Gifts ‏@Royce_Leather
@IanBegley @BillyBauer1 @TheNBA_Insider I think he is the real deal! from speaking to him, he says Dolan has overruled Grunwald to get Lin

how will people justify their constant scapegoating? or will they just move over to Felton and Amare again?


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Re: Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII 

Post#345 » by CU_NY09 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:47 am

NoLayupRule wrote:I wonder what people will have to say if it turns out, as rumored, that Grunwald wanted Lin gone and Dolan insisted he resign him

Royce Leather Gifts ‏@Royce_Leather
@IanBegley @BillyBauer1 @TheNBA_Insider I think he is the real deal! from speaking to him, he says Dolan has overruled Grunwald to get Lin

how will people justify their constant scapegoating? or will they just move over to Felton and Amare again?


Who's the current scapegoat? Are you saying it's Dolan when it shouldn't be? After joining this board, it seems like there is more than one scapegoat, multiple actually.
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Re: Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII 

Post#346 » by Stannis » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:51 am

If the Knicks really go with Felton over Lin:

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Re: Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII 

Post#347 » by mhi » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:52 am

I really don't understand why the media is infatuated with a mediocre basketball player.

Sometimes I am amazed at what the New York media can accomplish with their clout.

The contract Houston offered him is completely undeserved for his "talent", he should be insulted for the fact that teams are looking to cash in on his apparent popularity and failing to evaluate him properly as basketball player.

Despite what he 'accomplished' in 25 games stat wise, if you look at his tape the only conclusion you can come up with is that his skill level is of someone who is the 8th-12th man on a roster. To give him such a contract is terrible for him as its gonna put pressure on him to perform in a way that he has no capabilities of doing.

Teams are gonna be gunning for him and his gonna start to question his self image when he is repeatedly voted on the All-Star team based on his popularity(ala Ming) yet his peers (other NBA players/personnel) are never gonna see him in such a manner.

I would compare him to Tim Tebow in some regard and he just got traded by the Broncos. The difference is that Tebow has a strong personality and is very sure of himself.

A+ to his representation though, they are gonna be making tons of money for some time now.
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Re: Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII 

Post#348 » by Sky_Knicks » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:56 am

spre8well wrote:If the team chooses to match Lin, disregarding Melo&JR's comments to keep Lin from coming back, it's pretty much over for Melo. The damage is done; heads will roll. Whether it be Lin or Melo, unless of course they miraculously bring home the trophy next year. If the team doesn't match Lin, it's over for Melo, as he will be crucified by the fans; unless they *see above* w/o Lin. Sorry Melo, should have kept your mouth shut.

As for Lin, deep down I know he will be better off in Houston, away from the selfish, butt hurt players that are supposed to be his teammates. But as a Knicks fan, I selfishly hope he stayed a Knick. Either way, he's getting paid.

Conclusion: Linsanity 1 Melo 0

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Re: Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII 

Post#349 » by UnderdogKnicks » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:57 am

Everybody complaining about Lin's contract, we ain't even about keeping Lin it's losing him for nothing which is very foolish. He is very tradable because of his marketability no matter his contract and we won't have cap space for the next 3 years anyway so y not keep him as an asset.
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Re: Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII 

Post#350 » by JBreezeNY » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:58 am

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JBreezeNY wrote:You've done a complete 180 I remember when you used to defend Melo vehemently, what the hell happened? :lol:


I'm just telling the truth... How I see it.

I still like Melo... but I saw things in his game I never have seen before and I lived in Denver and went to a ton of nuggets games.

I said the same things as soon as Miami eliminated us... He had a really bad year except for the last month of the regular season and the first 8 or 10 games.

He tightened up after he got back from injury... he was choking the ball and coming up short on jumpers... rushing... forcing the issue... things he never has done. You could tell all the "can you and Lin play together" stuff got to him. Then in the Miami series... go back and watch the games... he went right back to looking tight... forcing... looking nervous. I'd never seen him like that in Denver.

I always thought if there was one guy in the NBA who could handle the bright lights... or the media scrutiny it would be him... maybe he can handle it next year. But too see it when you thought you'd never see it kind of gets you down on the guy... especially when you're going out of your way to defend him.

Interesting, interesting, very interesting. Agree pretty much with what you said especially on the forcing shots, letting the Lin talk get to him & doing it again in the Heat series. There are a couple factors as to why Melo played so poorly in that series but I do remember saying to myself that he's looking a bit tight, he's forcing the issue, etc, etc. To counter that but not go too in-depth, he kinda does have to force the issue especially against a team like Miami & the way we were playing.

As far as getting down on Melo I can completely understand where you're coming from because I've done it numerous times when he played in Denver & here in NY but I dunno I guess optimism keeps me from saying things negatively about him when there's a chance to say something negative. I always like to see things play out & look at it from two points of views instead of instant-reacting.

I believe this year will be a Melo we've never seen before but I also acknowledge that either this year or next year when he's right around the corner from 30, will be put up or shut up for Mel. It's already bad that people think of him as an afterthought for winning a title, time to shut everybody up including me.
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Re: Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII 

Post#351 » by Stannis » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:58 am

UnderdogKnicks wrote:Everybody complaining about Lin's contract, we ain't even about keeping Lin it's losing him for nothing which is very foolish. He is very tradable because of his marketability no matter his contract and we won't have cap space for the next 3 years anyway so y not keep him as an asset.

For sure, trading Lin to a small market team can get the Knicks at least 2 first rounders.
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Re: Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII 

Post#352 » by NoLayupRule » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:59 am

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NoLayupRule wrote:I wonder what people will have to say if it turns out, as rumored, that Grunwald wanted Lin gone and Dolan insisted he resign him

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@IanBegley @BillyBauer1 @TheNBA_Insider I think he is the real deal! from speaking to him, he says Dolan has overruled Grunwald to get Lin

how will people justify their constant scapegoating? or will they just move over to Felton and Amare again?


Who's the current scapegoat? Are you saying it's Dolan when it shouldn't be? After joining this board, it seems like there is more than one scapegoat, multiple actually.

yes, pretty much everyone is a scapegoat at one point or another, or they are once they are signed to a contract beyind the rookie scale

But Dolan is the blanket boogieman for everything bad this franchise does, doesn't do or did.
As I see it Dolan mostly stays away only making certain bad choices on management and the rest of the time simply opens up his check book

which I like

But if Dolan supersedes Grunwald, who's been so great, and forces us to resign Lin then people's heads will explode
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Re: Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII 

Post#353 » by fubu05 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:00 am

Wait so.... Glen doesn't want Lin, but Dolan actually does and is now overruling Grunnie and the Knicks will match? Did I get that right?
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Re: Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII 

Post#354 » by gavran » Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:01 am

mhi wrote:I really don't understand why the media is infatuated with a mediocre basketball player.

Sometimes I am amazed at what the New York media can accomplish with their clout.

The contract Houston offered him is completely undeserved for his "talent", he should be insulted for the fact that teams are looking to cash in on his apparent popularity and failing to evaluate him properly as basketball player.

Despite what he 'accomplished' in 25 games stat wise, if you look at his tape the only conclusion you can come up with is that his skill level is of someone who is the 8th-12th man on a roster. To give him such a contract is terrible for him as its gonna put pressure on him to perform in a way that he has no capabilities of doing.

Teams are gonna be gunning for him and his gonna start to question his self image when he is repeatedly voted on the All-Star team based on his popularity(ala Ming) yet his peers (other NBA players/personnel) are never gonna see him in such a manner.

I would compare him to Tim Tebow in some regard and he just got traded by the Broncos. The difference is that Tebow has a strong personality and is very sure of himself.

A+ to his representation though, they are gonna be making tons of money for some time now.

So, no one answered to your horrible post in the cesspool called the general board, so you felt you need to copy+paste in here too? This should be a bannable offense.
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Re: Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII 

Post#355 » by Illuminatos » Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:04 am

Before the decision comes in I just want to say that I think the contract will be matched.
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Re: Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII 

Post#356 » by JohnStockton » Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:11 am

NoLayupRule wrote:Royce Leather Gifts ‏@Royce_Leather
@IanBegley @BillyBauer1 @TheNBA_Insider I think he is the real deal! from speaking to him, he says Dolan has overruled Grunwald to get Lin



Is that guy's name actually "Royce Leather Gifts," or is some sort of sex shop tweeting about Jeremy Lin?
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Post#357 » by [GR] » Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:13 am

fubu05 wrote:Wait so.... Glen doesn't want Lin, but Dolan actually does and is now overruling Grunnie and the Knicks will match? Did I get that right?

If true, Dolan has now stepped in two moves, that were for the better. And yet, people will continue to bash him, because the man is fat and plays in a terrible band.
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Re: Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII 

Post#358 » by CLIN » Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:13 am

I still think you guys match.

I wouldn't read too much into any tweets or anything. I doubt anyone on twitter who's made a comment actually knows what they're talking about. Just gotta wait and see.

Someone alluded to melo making a comment about not wanting lin back. I hadn't heard about that until just now, that could be bad.

I also don't understand why people don't want lin back. He's not gonna turn down less money, especially after the knicks said they'd match anything (which was dumb as hell). He might not have even realized it would screw the knicks in the third year considering the rockets are still 8/8/8 (probably not tho). And you guys are over the cap anyways right? Who cares if dolan has to shell out the luxury tax. The stock will drop so much anyways it's still the right business decision.

Figured i'd post my thoughts now that the **** storm has subsided for atleast the night.
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Post#360 » by Lightning25 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:19 am

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