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Re: Breaking News: Knicks confirmed they are not matching Li 

Post#861 » by Kampuchea » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:22 am

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MozTheMan wrote:the roster looks great. I think they need some time to mesh and will be a top team in the league once we do

We have been saying that for the past 4 seasons.


have they had a real training camp since we got Melo?
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Re: Breaking News: Knicks confirmed they are not matching Li 

Post#862 » by Thugger HBC » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:22 am

Lin is the better player, but Felton may be the better fit.

That is all I personally care about.
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Re: Breaking News: Knicks confirmed they are not matching Li 

Post#863 » by GONYK » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:22 am

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markdeez33 wrote:Raymond Felton Stats as a Knick: 54 games, 17.1 points, 9.0 assists, 1.8 steals, 2.3 turnovers VERSUS Jeremy Lin Stats as Knick: 35 games, 14.6 points, 6.2 assists, 1.6 steals, 3.6 turnovers..... And Knicks fans/media are complaining??? Why???

Felton will come into camp in shape and motivated. He knows he has to perform here or we'll just ship his punk ass out again.


Those stats don't account for the fact that Lin just runs the PnR much better.

They also don't show that Felton averaged 37 mins a game, while Lin averaged 26 MPG.

So in reality, those stats are useless

Woodson is our coach now. How many P&R's do ATL run?


If we truly move away from an offense that requires ball movement, then we have much bigger problems than Raymond Felton.
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Re: Breaking News: Knicks confirmed they are not matching Li 

Post#864 » by ibraheim718 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:23 am

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Re: Breaking News: Knicks confirmed they are not matching Li 

Post#865 » by god shammgod » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:23 am

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Said this before - and soon Berman of the Post will claim he reported it - but I still think this goes back to Knicks wanting Chris Paul

he keeps going with this but i have no idea how it would work
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Re: Breaking News: Knicks confirmed they are not matching Li 

Post#866 » by Stannis » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:23 am

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Shpati21 wrote:
MozTheMan wrote:the roster looks great. I think they need some time to mesh and will be a top team in the league once we do

We have been saying that for the past 4 seasons.


have they had a real training camp since we got Melo?

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Re: Breaking News: Knicks confirmed they are not matching Li 

Post#867 » by Thugger HBC » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:23 am

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MozTheMan wrote:the roster looks great. I think they need some time to mesh and will be a top team in the league once we do

We have been saying that for the past 4 seasons.

Really? Our most tenured Knick has only been here 2 seasons.
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Re: Breaking News: Knicks confirmed they are not matching Li 

Post#868 » by qed » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:23 am

ITALIA17 wrote:I have to be honest. I would have bet anything that LIN would be starting this year. It was the one thing I thought the Knicks just could not mess up. The fan backlash would be insane. The fans LOVE LIN. He turned into the Jeter of the Knicks. Never in my wildest dreams did I think I would see them let him go


exactly

CANT WAIT THE DAY MSG boo the **** out of melo ball.
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Re: Breaking News: Knicks confirmed they are not matching Li 

Post#869 » by CoolKids » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:23 am

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Rebuild the Knicks.


My trades keep getting rejected and I'm out of assets. Too life like, lol.

So you cant get Chris Paul for Douglas and 2 2nd round picks? wtf?
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Re: Breaking News: Knicks confirmed they are not matching Li 

Post#870 » by kingOfqueens » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:24 am

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seren wrote:This kid should have been a division I player and should have been a first round pick. If he was, whoever had him would have four years with him. This not open racism. It is unconscious racism or call it statistical bias if you prefer. Somehow, after breaking every record in the league, he still has doubters.


Probably. The kid's game has physical flaws, but physical flaws can be corrected. Low IQs can not be corrected and the Knicks have too many of those, including their new point guard.

Jeremy Lin played well enough after Anthony came back that you knew he belonged. He just needed to correct a few flaws.


That's exactly it. Look back at all the past championship teams they all have one thing in common, they have very few players with low bball IQ, let alone have multiple starters with that problem. tyson chandler is really the only starter that's a proven winner. Jr, amare, felton and even melo are bone headed players that just don't get it. Lin probably wouldn't have solved this problem but we would have been hell of a lot better.
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Re: Breaking News: Knicks confirmed they are not matching Li 

Post#871 » by GONYK » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:24 am

CoolKids wrote:I agree Lin is the better PG but as a starter in 34 mpg Lin averaged 18.2 ppg 7.7 apg 4.7 topg compared to 17.1ppg 9.0 apg 3.3 topg for Felton so the stats are comparable


Even so, it's not about the stats. The PG position comes down to one thing, and one thing alone: Who runs the offense better?

Can you really tell me Felton ran the team better than Lin?
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Re: Breaking News: Knicks confirmed they are not matching Li 

Post#872 » by jzmagik » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:24 am

Thugger HBC wrote:Lin is the better player, but Felton may be the better fit.

That is all I personally care about.


You're absolutely right.

Jeremy Lin's youth, upside, intelligence, humbleness and winning attitude just wasn't a good fit on the Knicks roster.
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Re: Breaking News: Knicks confirmed they are not matching Li 

Post#873 » by Synciere » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:24 am

markdeez33 wrote:In my opinion, Felton had Amare playing BEAUTIFUL pick n roll basketball. It was the most fun I've had post-2010 free agency. We started the year off bad, then everything began to click.

I know we kind of had a rehash of that same scenario with Lin last year, but it just seems to me he wants to be the "man" on a team. He gets that opportunity in Houston.

We have to bring in players that are gonna maximize the talents of our superstars. Jason Kidd has proven he can play with Tyson Chandler, now its time to prove he can make Melo/Amare work. Felton has proven he can get Amare numbers and doesn't do too bad for himself along the way, either.

I think having 2 ball handlers like Kidd & Felton on this team will be HELL for defenses. We now have 2 guys who can get Melo/Amare/Tyson the ball in their spots.

And the beauty of it all??? We get a FULL training camp to work out all the kinks.

NO MORE SEVEN SECONDS OR LESS.

NO MORE D'ANTONI PUTTING THE SHOT CLOCK ON SEVEN SECONDS IN PRACTICE AND EVERYONE LOOKING LIKE A DUMBASS.

Last year we started the year off with TONEY DOUGLAS as our starting PG. TONEY DOUGLAS!!! This year, we atleast have the luxury of picking either Felton or Kidd or starting them both and seeing what Prigioni has in the tank. This is gonna be fun for me.

I'm excited that we finally have a team full of VETS.


Thank you for being one of the few people who is actually pointing out the best case scenario for Felton/Kidd. The argument for Lin is based entirely on his upside/potential/best case scenario. No one on that side of the argument is pointing out when Lin played with our best offensive options his game took a substantial dive.
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Re: Breaking News: Knicks confirmed they are not matching Li 

Post#874 » by Kampuchea » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:24 am

Shpati21 wrote:
MozTheMan wrote:have they had a real training camp since we got Melo?

no.


i think that will help a bunch. The lockout is not good especially for teams with moving pieces.
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Re: Breaking News: Knicks confirmed they are not matching Li 

Post#875 » by Stannis » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:25 am

Thugger HBC wrote:
Shpati21 wrote:
MozTheMan wrote:the roster looks great. I think they need some time to mesh and will be a top team in the league once we do

We have been saying that for the past 4 seasons.

Really? Our most tenured Knick has only been here 2 seasons.

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Re: Breaking News: Knicks confirmed they are not matching Li 

Post#876 » by Guy986 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:25 am

Will knicks fan boo or cheer for lin on his return to msg?


I hope morey wont show up for that game. Im fearful for his life.
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Re: Breaking News: Knicks confirmed they are not matching Li 

Post#877 » by kNicksGmen » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:25 am

papiculo wrote:
Fury wrote:
papiculo wrote:The most important factor, how the hell am I suppose to play NBA2k12 now?


Rebuild the Knicks.


My trades keep getting rejected and I'm out of assets. Too life like, lol.

its easy as hell to rebuild in 2k...u can trade stat and chandler for prospects very easy and then sign chris paul or any number of different scenarios.
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Re: Breaking News: Knicks confirmed they are not matching Li 

Post#878 » by GONYK » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:25 am

jzmagik wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:Lin is the better player, but Felton may be the better fit.

That is all I personally care about.


You're absolutely right.

Jeremy Lin's youth, upside, intelligence, humbleness and winning attitude just wasn't a good fit on the Knicks roster.


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Re: Breaking News: Knicks confirmed they are not matching Li 

Post#879 » by SmooveMelo » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:25 am

papiculo wrote:
My trades keep getting rejected and I'm out of assets. Too life like, lol.


Can you check and see if they updated the roster for me please lol
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Re: Breaking News: Knicks confirmed they are not matching Li 

Post#880 » by Sprewell4Three » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:25 am

Thugger HBC wrote:Lin is the better player, but Felton may be the better fit.

That is all I personally care about.


Can somebody post our record with Lin, Amare, Melo in the same lineup please. To shut these people up..

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