OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread

Elden Payton · Post #401 » by **Elden Payton** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:48 am

You've been quoted multiple times where it is evident you have.

AnaheimRoyale · Post #402 » by **AnaheimRoyale** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:55 am

Sik Infant wrote:You've been quoted multiple times where it is evident you have.

This is getting embarassing now. Please, quote me. Multiple times. The only quote I've seen thus far is a remark that is wholly different to the one you have attributed to me. How about instead of being classless, you just do the civil thing and apologise for misread what I wrote?

BlackOutBuzz · Post #403 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:56 am

AnaheimRoyale wrote:
I think it's far too early to make either claim

Which is probably why I haven't made it, rather the MKG backers like Sik have.

Come on now...

AnaheimRoyale wrote:I still dislike the pick, because I don't think he's got any chance of being a top 2 pick out of this draft, and that's a problem for a #2 pick in a draft this deep.

AnaheimRoyale wrote:He looks better than Robinson, you dodged a bullet there. In a few years time will be look like a top 3 player in this draft though? I doubt it.

AnaheimRoyale wrote:You drafted this guy #2 overall, not 5 or 6 or 7. The standard is different,

AnaheimRoyale wrote:I am very doubtful MKG ends up the 2nd best player in this draft, or even top 3-4, and that's bad for a #2 pick. We'll wait and see of course, but some of the defensive remarks coming out are extremely hypocritical.

AnaheimRoyale wrote:If I was a Bobcats fan, I'd be furious if we had the #2 pick in a draft, and got maybe the 5th best player.

AnaheimRoyale wrote:I don't feel MKG ends up as the #2 player in this draft at all, and I'm not sure he'll finish up in the top 5. That's something to be concerned about, not dismissed by fans chanting MKG's name.

Elden Payton · Post #404 » by **Elden Payton** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:59 am

BlackOutBobcat wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:
BlackOutBobcat wrote:Lillard is older than Thor? Man that sucks, thought he was setting Summer League on fire at 19-20 years old. Someone mentioned that maybe they'd take Lillard over MKG in a re-draft...tempting until finding out he's 22.

Lillard is one year older than Thor, they both declared as juniors but Lillard was redshirt junior after missing all but nine games of his real junior season with a foot injury.

Lillard will be 23 halfway through his rookie season.

Funnily enough Royce White despite declaring as a Sophomore is actually 21 years old, he originally got committed to Minnesota but after being charged for theft TWICE he left the team and took two years off to concentrate on his music career...lol

Miles Plumlee is 24 years old.

Weird year for ages.

MKG will be the same age as Lillard now when he comes off his rookie deal...lol

Crazy, especially Royce (lol).

I REALLY liked Thor pre-draft...but I just didn't like the fact that there seemed to be about 4-5 guys all considered to be in that "second tier," and that he was older than the others. Not a knock on him, but I was intrigued by the thought of where these younger guys (MKG, Beal, Andre, etc.) would be when they are Robinson's age. Glad we went for one of the younger guys for that reason.

I liked Thor too and trading down for him was my preferred but in the NBA quality beats quantity.

It seems that BPA over need is the consensus...at least in an ideal world (some GM's get this wrong)
Funnily enough the P in BPA stands for both player and potential, we really made the right pick since MKG is considered the second best player in this draft and has the perceived second highest upside.

I honestly think last year had something to do with this pick where we took a high-risk/high-reward player and a guy considered a proven commodity, as good as Kemba was last year Biz exceeded expectations and was our best rook.

Following our initial success with Biz taking MKG is a no brainer.

And to explain why Gilchrist was the second best player he was the best player and team leader on a team with the consensus number one pick.

Elden Payton · Post #405 » by **Elden Payton** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:01 am

BlackOutBobcat wrote:
AnaheimRoyale wrote:
I think it's far too early to make either claim

Which is probably why I haven't made it, rather the MKG backers like Sik have.

Come on now...

AnaheimRoyale wrote:I still dislike the pick, because I don't think he's got any chance of being a top 2 pick out of this draft, and that's a problem for a #2 pick in a draft this deep.

AnaheimRoyale wrote:He looks better than Robinson, you dodged a bullet there. In a few years time will be look like a top 3 player in this draft though? I doubt it.

AnaheimRoyale wrote:You drafted this guy #2 overall, not 5 or 6 or 7. The standard is different,

AnaheimRoyale wrote:I am very doubtful MKG ends up the 2nd best player in this draft, or even top 3-4, and that's bad for a #2 pick. We'll wait and see of course, but some of the defensive remarks coming out are extremely hypocritical.

AnaheimRoyale wrote:If I was a Bobcats fan, I'd be furious if we had the #2 pick in a draft, and got maybe the 5th best player.

AnaheimRoyale wrote:I don't feel MKG ends up as the #2 player in this draft at all, and I'm not sure he'll finish up in the top 5. That's something to be concerned about, not dismissed by fans chanting MKG's name.

Hilarious....

Hall of fame this please mods!!!!

BOB thanks for taking the time to do this brother Cat.

Elden Payton · Post #406 » by **Elden Payton** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:06 am

Apology Royale?? As you have mentioned it is quite classless to not apologise if warranted...

I'm waiting.....

BlackOutBuzz · Post #407 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:11 am

Sik Infant wrote:
Hilarious....

Hall of fame this please mods!!!!

BOB thanks for taking the time to do this brother Cat.

You're welcome

I knew he said it a few times, so I went digging and found more than I bargained for :lol:

Elden Payton · Post #408 » by **Elden Payton** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:16 am

^^^^^

I actually have the habit of lurking moreso than posting, I always read the entire thread before I post, I'd seen him saying it multiple times.

I'm too lazy to dig them out so thanks for having my back!!

Elden Payton · Post #409 » by **Elden Payton** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:23 am

Silence....

It's nice but I'm still waiting for my apology...

AnaheimRoyale · Post #410 » by **AnaheimRoyale** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:42 am

I went for a jog and took a shower. For future reference, internet debates are not realtime, and someone not responding for 30-40 minutes should not be construed as some sort of concession of defeat, rather they may just have a life they need to spend some time on.

I'm baffled what you think you're entitled to an apology for... you have quoted a collection of remarks that are all as I described them, and not as you did. Are you really unable to read the difference between what you've quoted, and what you've claimed I said?

AnaheimRoyale · Post #411 » by **AnaheimRoyale** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:44 am

AnaheimRoyale wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:The quote is two posts up.

Please get the **** off our board, you are most welcome when not trolling.

Also you are obviously trolling.

I'm baffled. Are you not reading my posts properly, or are you actually unable to differentiate between "I don't feel confident about X" and "X is definitely happening, IT WILL HAPPEN, it's a fait accompli". Seriously? This would explain alot about the MKG overreaction I'm getting though...

Elden Payton · Post #412 » by **Elden Payton** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:47 am

Please kindly leave our board.

You were speaking in definites as if you are some kind of guru, BOB proved you wrong. leave.

AnaheimRoyale · Post #413 » by **AnaheimRoyale** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:48 am

Where was I speaking in definites? You keep saying you've provided some sort of quote, and you keep quoting me saying things like "I don't feel confident" or "I'm just not sure". Do you even understand how silly you guys look by persisting with this?

Elden Payton · Post #414 » by **Elden Payton** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:56 am

AnaheimRoyale wrote:The guy has looked real solid in the one game thus far... he looks better than I'd hoped, and like he'll be a good player for you. I still dislike the pick, because I don't think he's got any chance of being a top 2 pick out of this draft, and that's a problem for a #2 pick in a draft this deep.

I'll humour you...here's one.

You are so obnoxious, because YOU don't think he will be a top five pick it makes it fact.

Elden Payton · Post #415 » by **Elden Payton** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:59 am

BlackOutBobcat wrote:
AnaheimRoyale wrote:
I think it's far too early to make either claim

Which is probably why I haven't made it, rather the MKG backers like Sik have.

Come on now...

AnaheimRoyale wrote:I still dislike the pick, because I don't think he's got any chance of being a top 2 pick out of this draft, and that's a problem for a #2 pick in a draft this deep.

AnaheimRoyale wrote:He looks better than Robinson, you dodged a bullet there. In a few years time will be look like a top 3 player in this draft though? I doubt it.

AnaheimRoyale wrote:You drafted this guy #2 overall, not 5 or 6 or 7. The standard is different,

AnaheimRoyale wrote:I am very doubtful MKG ends up the 2nd best player in this draft, or even top 3-4, and that's bad for a #2 pick. We'll wait and see of course, but some of the defensive remarks coming out are extremely hypocritical.

AnaheimRoyale wrote:If I was a Bobcats fan, I'd be furious if we had the #2 pick in a draft, and got maybe the 5th best player.

AnaheimRoyale wrote:I don't feel MKG ends up as the #2 player in this draft at all, and I'm not sure he'll finish up in the top 5. That's something to be concerned about, not dismissed by fans chanting MKG's name.

Here is a lot of evidence, why would we be concerned about something you believe??

You obviously know nothing about our team or MKG.

Elden Payton · Post #416 » by **Elden Payton** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:59 am

You also haven't stated who you would have picked??

Lame excuses aside.

AnaheimRoyale · Post #417 » by **AnaheimRoyale** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:01 am

We're not in a debate about whether you think I'm obnoxious (a subjective issue), we're in disagreement about whether you've accurately attributed remarks to me (an objective fact). You haven't accurately attributed my remarks, and the embarassing thing is after having this pointed out so many times you insist on continuing it, making yourself look ridiculous.

The above quote is a good example. Note the very words you have bolded, "I don't think". This is not what you claimed I had said, which was (to remind you):

you are stating a definite by saying that MKG WILL NOT be a top five player

Again, you're wrong. An apology is the classy way to go, but at this stage I'm not holding my breath.

Based on how you're pursuing this, I am starting to believe you really don't understand the difference between the subjective phrase "I feel"/"I think"/"I doubt" and an objective statement, eg "Player X is clearly worse than player Y". This shouldn't be complex, but for you it seems to be. It's the same difference as between an indefinite article, and a definite one. "My opinion is X" is not the same as "X is reality".

Elden Payton · Post #418 » by **Elden Payton** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:05 am

Your intent is obvious and you are a blatant troll.

Please leave our board, you're not proving anything and you are also wrong.

It doesn't change the context by putting a maybe in there when you are lending no consideration to the fact of what you're saying could be incorrect.

Post #419 » by **Walt Cronkite** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:06 am

So, that Kidd-Gilchrist is a pretty good basketball player, huh? Lot to like. Seems like a good young dude. This bickering for pages is really annoying to read. You guys should do watercolors or listen to music or something if you're so bored. Go workout or play hoops. Something. Arguing on the internet takes years off of your life, studies show.

AnaheimRoyale · Post #420 » by **AnaheimRoyale** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:08 am

Sik Infant world, where there is no difference between a sentence with a "maybe" in it, and one without it. This is refreshing to know. Maybe you're just a classless homer who doesn't want to apologise though.