Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XLI Off-Season Edition)

rcklsscognition · Post #1261 » by **rcklsscognition** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:47 am

arsenal6106 wrote:^^^Agree.

This is what David Baumann messaged me on the 18th.

I sent Jameer's agent a text message about it. I was originally under the impression of 3/19.7M. I'll do my best to find out.

I just messaged him today, so hopefully I get something.

Yeah, I basically got the same thing from Robbins on a few DMs over the past week. Seems he thinks it's not accurate but can't report on it and call out Pincus without verifying again.

arsenal6106 · Post #1262 » by **arsenal6106** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:53 am

Also, what is up with Denton's lack of reporting on Magic related stuff?

Does he not report on the Magic during the off season?

MagicTownBaller · Post #1263 » by **MagicTownBaller** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:53 am

arsenal6106 wrote:Also, what is up with Denton's lack of reporting on Magic related stuff?

Does he not report on the Magic during the off season?

These are the questions that plague us.

CPBalla2003 n da 863 · Post #1264 » by **CPBalla2003 n da 863** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:58 am

magicman123 wrote:
CPBalla2003 n da 863 wrote:exactly, 3 years, and he's an expiring, that has value at least if he's slipping, but, i think he will do well, but, Jameer is so undervalued by Magic fans... not even funny.

undervalued? because he wants to be here? and that makes the contract ok?

Undervalued by Magic fans, read sir. you are one of many who criticize the guy. :roll:

dsg2021 · Post #1265 » by **dsg2021** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:00 am

The agent/or reporting FO source probably only wanted to include the garantueed money as part of the deal, aka, 2 years at 8mil + 8mil= 16 + 3.5mil only last year = 19.5-19.7mil garantueed. Denton is pretty much the spearhead of Magic side sources so it cant be far off, if not comletely true still.

TheLastDon · Post #1266 » by **TheLastDon** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:00 am

OrlDave wrote:Regarding Jameer. I think the brass looked at the team and said, "Without Dwight, who is the face of our franchise next year?" The names for that honor are short... Nelson, JJ, Anderson, BBD. We drafted Nicolson and Anderson isn't going to thrive without Dwight so he was scratched off (and not resigned). JJ and BBD weren't even starters most of the year. So that leaves Jameer.

So they gave him a short, if rich contract. It's 3 years yes, but 2 years before it's an expiring contract and a trade asset. I don't think any of us actually believe we'll need the cap space before then right? So they overpaid a little so the team maintained some stability. That's my theory anyway.

Jameer is a perfect 6th man and well respected player and captain of the team... DO the bucks deal from earlier posts... TO recap, Udrih, Mbah a Moute, Ellis for Turk, JJ, Dudu

OOO · Post #1267 » by **OOO** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:02 am

Rob Hennigan is just as indecisive as Dwight is.

TDJacksonville · Post #1268 » by **TDJacksonville** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:03 am

CPBalla2003 n da 863 wrote:
magicman123 wrote:
CPBalla2003 n da 863 wrote:exactly, 3 years, and he's an expiring, that has value at least if he's slipping, but, i think he will do well, but, Jameer is so undervalued by Magic fans... not even funny.

undervalued? because he wants to be here? and that makes the contract ok?

Undervalued by Magic fans, read sir. you are one of many who criticize the guy.

hes not undervalued. hes been on a decline since he made the all star game a few years ago.

Blue_and_Whte · Post #1269 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:05 am

Oh geez... People still bitching and moaning about jameer shaddup already. "oh noez our beloved Ryan" good riddance at least jameer has the sack to show up when it matters. Ryans an over paid pansy. I'll give 11 and 5 next year. Grab A damn Kleenex and get the **** over it already.

Catledge · Post #1270 » by **Catledge** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:09 am

MagicTownBaller wrote:
arsenal6106 wrote:Also, what is up with Denton's lack of reporting on Magic related stuff?

Does he not report on the Magic during the off season?

These are the questions that plague us.

Denton works for the Orlando Magic. He doesn't break any stories that they don't want broken.

MAGICian619 · Post #1271 » by **MAGICian619** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:14 am

OOO wrote:Rob Hennigan is just as indecisive as Dwight is.

Anyone who thinks that Hennigan doesn't have a plan is crazy.

timgator · Post #1272 » by **timgator** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:17 am

Blue_and_Whte wrote:Oh geez... People still bitching and moaning about jameer shaddup already. "oh noez our beloved Ryan" good riddance at least jameer has the sack to show up when it matters. Ryans an over paid pansy. I'll give 11 and 5 next year. Grab A damn Kleenex and get the **** over it already.

I think Ryan benefited from Dwight and the system much the same way Hedo did before he left us as a FA. Hedo got paid but was exposed in the process. I don't think Ryan is a scrub by any stretch, and I hope he does well, but I just don't see him as a critical loss to us and I don't see him doing as well in the future as he did last season. And I just can't stomach having his contract for four years!

Dr Positivity · Post #1273 » by **Dr Positivity** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:20 am

eyriq wrote:Actually, just found it. So it was as bad as we thought...

Yeah, Hennigan is a joke. Trade Ryan for "cap flexibility" but give Nelson a raise?

IMO if anything it's a sign you guys are taking the ORL offer. No use paying Anderson when you have something like Nicholson, Terrence Jones, Patrick Patterson and Marcus Morris all on the roster

OrlandO · Post #1274 » by **OrlandO** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:24 am

If we're trading Dwight, we need to get rid of him before the start of the season or we can kiss the Rockets deal goodbye. I don't like hearing this "wait until trade deadline" rumor because it re-opens the possibility of dealing with the stupid Nets. I would be okay with Bynum, but I don't see the point of delaying it for months unless we're keeping Dwight on the bench.

TheLastDon · Post #1275 » by **TheLastDon** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:24 am

Blue_and_Whte wrote:Oh geez... People still bitching and moaning about jameer shaddup already. "oh noez our beloved Ryan" good riddance at least jameer has the sack to show up when it matters. Ryans an over paid pansy. I'll give 11 and 5 next year. Grab A damn Kleenex and get the **** over it already.

Ryan ain't nothing without D12... Jameer is the captain and He was the free agent we should've kept

TheLastDon · Post #1276 » by **TheLastDon** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:24 am

Blue_and_Whte wrote:Oh geez... People still bitching and moaning about jameer shaddup already. "oh noez our beloved Ryan" good riddance at least jameer has the sack to show up when it matters. Ryans an over paid pansy. I'll give 11 and 5 next year. Grab A damn Kleenex and get the **** over it already.

Ryan ain't nothing without D12... Jameer is the captain and He was the free agent we should've kept

arsenal6106 · Post #1277 » by **arsenal6106** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:25 am

OOO wrote:Rob Hennigan is just as indecisive as Dwight is.

What?

TheLastDon · Post #1278 » by **TheLastDon** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:27 am

OrlandO wrote:If we're trading Dwight, we need to get rid of him before the start of the season or we can kiss the Rockets deal goodbye. I don't like hearing this "wait until trade deadline" rumor because it re-opens the possibility of dealing with the stupid Nets. I would be okay with Bynum, but I don't see the point of delaying it for months unless we're keeping Dwight on the bench.

Maybe letting walk in free agency is the best way to rebuild

Post #1279 » by **Def Swami** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:27 am

TheLastDon wrote:
Blue_and_Whte wrote:Oh geez... People still bitching and moaning about jameer shaddup already. "oh noez our beloved Ryan" good riddance at least jameer has the sack to show up when it matters. Ryans an over paid pansy. I'll give 11 and 5 next year. Grab A damn Kleenex and get the **** over it already.

Ryan isn't anything without D12... Jameer is the captain and He was the free agent we should've kept

Fixed

the_prophet · Post #1280 » by **the_prophet** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:35 am

Lakers fan in peace here. Just one question.. I am the only one that thinks that if dwight is traded in the off-season you guys can start tanking right now ?