flatjacket1 wrote:limegameboy wrote:Hanley's an MVP level talent.
Escobars 2 worst years of his career are still better than the 2 most recent years from Hanley.
Hes good but nothing to give too much up for. Id rather get pitching.
This has been said twice now, but you're kind of bending those stats so they favor your point.
For 1, this season isn't over yet. So the '2 most recent years' is one where Ramirez missed 70 games due to injury (hampering his play when he was on the roster perhaps?) and then this year.
Before we got Yunel, he played in 75 games for ATL and was hitting .238 with 0 HR, 19 RBI, 28 RS. Way worse than Hanley has played so far this year (.249/14/47/49). So if it's the fact he hates playing 3B which has created chemistry problems like ATL had a couple years ago, you have to base the potential of the trade off raw talent which I think Hanley has more of. (offensively at least). Looking at their stats on baseball reference it isn't even close who's been a better hitter. Escobar is 29 while Ramirez is 28 so their age/career length is quite similar. Only thing Yunel is better at is defense, and he doesn't strike out as much.
Then the fact that so far this year Hanley is batting .009 less than Escobar, but has 8 more HR, 14 more RBI, 11 more SB and 0.020 better OBP.
I'm not saying we get him and he plays like the MVP candidate he was a couple seasons ago, but I think it's a bold move with potential of working out. How much money he makes doesnt matter to me if it doesnt matter to ownership. I'd still rather get a good pitcher or even Upton, but I'm happy that it's not just the usual suspects trying to buy former all-stars.