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Re: Melo is a great passer 

Post#81 » by GONYK » Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:27 pm

Gil wrote:He's not shooting anything near 50% so 5/6 assists really isn't asking for too much.


What does this even mean?
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Re: Melo is a great passer 

Post#82 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:29 pm

johnnywishbone wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:It just appears that you are still annoyed that we have him instead of Gallo/Chandler and have decided that you need to come up with reasons to dislike him. It's like whenever you hit a wall, you turn around and continue on a new path until you hit another wall.


Huh?

Let's recount - shall we?

1. Someone starts a thread. Titled "Melo is a great passer".
2. I made a jape about it because he's made 4 assists while taking 63 field goal attempts during the Olympics - not a ratio that a great passer ever has.
3. You guys circle the wagons because someone has insulted the Melo.
4. I defend my position.
5. You guys try to make it about me.

Whatever. Good night.


1. Check
2. I say he's supposed to come in and score off the bench as that is his role on the team
3. You keep finding things to be upset about
4. See 3
5. It is about you

Anyways, I'm done with you. You can only argue with someone who is so deadset on a point of view for so long...



Gil wrote:He's not shooting anything near 50% so 5/6 assists really isn't asking for too much.


You're joking, right? He's not LeBron or Iggy. He doesn't have the playmaking ability to run the offense through him like those guys. He's not a point forward. 3-4 APG from the SF position is fantastic.
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Re: Melo is a great passer 

Post#83 » by I_Love_NYK » Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:38 pm

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5 is more like it. 5-6 assists with like 8 rebounds and a FG% of over 45 would be enough to get him into MVP talks and more importantly get this team to 55+ wins.


This is an honest question, not meant in any disrespectful manner...but how many SF's averaged 5 assists or more last season? Matter of fact, how many F's?


Lebron and Iggy.



Iggy only averaged 13ppg last year, so does that really count? Iggy is not as near talented scorer as Melo. People expecting Melo to play like LeBron that is not going to happen. Iggy brings the ball up just as much as Jrue Holiday. Jrue Holiday only averaged 4.5 apg. LeBron has Chalmers as a PG who is more of their spot-up shooter. Felton and Kidd are going to be the playmakers not Melo. So 3-4 apg is more likely to happen. The Knicks tried to make Melo a point foward last year and that experiment failed.
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Re: Melo is a great passer 

Post#84 » by Thugger HBC » Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:47 pm

Do we seriously have someone thinking Melo should be LeBron or prime Kobe?

I would think having Douglas and Fields in my starting lineup not even including a bum wrist....... 4 assists is pretty excellent.

A career high is usually a good thing, but I guess not on here.
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Re: Melo is a great passer 

Post#85 » by GONYK » Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:50 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:Do we seriously have someone thinking Melo should be LeBron or prime Kobe?

I would think having Douglas and Fields in my starting lineup not even including a bum wrist....... 4 assists is pretty excellent.

A career high is usually a good thing, but I guess not on here.


Hey, if Scottie Pippen and Larry Bird could average 5+ assists, why not Melo?

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Re: Melo is a great passer 

Post#86 » by j4remi » Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:53 pm

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5 is more like it. 5-6 assists with like 8 rebounds and a FG% of over 45 would be enough to get him into MVP talks and more importantly get this team to 55+ wins.


This is an honest question, not meant in any disrespectful manner...but how many SF's averaged 5 assists or more last season? Matter of fact, how many F's?


Lebron and Iggy.


So in essence, we're asking Melo to average numbers that only the best player in the league could top...bc Iggy had like 13 ppg and 6 rpg to go with his 5 apg.

To me, a lot of posters are being unrealistic about what Melo should put up...I'd love for him to be the best player in the league, but I'll take top ten personally. I think, could be wishful, that he can break into the top 5 even.
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Re: Melo is a great passer 

Post#87 » by Thugger HBC » Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:57 pm

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GONYK wrote:
j4remi wrote:This is an honest question, not meant in any disrespectful manner...but how many SF's averaged 5 assists or more last season? Matter of fact, how many F's?


Lebron and Iggy.


So in essence, we're asking Melo to average numbers that only the best player in the league could top...bc Iggy had like 13 ppg and 6 rpg to go with his 5 apg.

To me, a lot of posters are being unrealistic about what Melo should put up...I'd love for him to be the best player in the league, but I'll take top ten personally. I think, could be wishful, that he can break into the top 5 even.


He could, winning more games and advancing in the playoffs will automatically change the perception.

I does for me with **cough-cough Durant cough-cough**
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Re: Melo is a great passer 

Post#88 » by j4remi » Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:05 pm

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He could, winning more games and advancing in the playoffs will automatically change the perception.

I does for me with **cough-cough Durant cough-cough**


You know damn well this cast of old men, broken down players (stat), bad fits and downgrades (felton) will become the best supporting cast in the league before Melo gets that credit...you know it!
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Post#89 » by Thugger HBC » Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:08 pm

j4remi wrote:
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He could, winning more games and advancing in the playoffs will automatically change the perception.

I does for me with **cough-cough Durant cough-cough**


You know damn well this cast of old men, broken down players (stat), bad fits and downgrades (felton) will become the best supporting cast in the league before Melo gets that credit...you know it!

Melo will get his credit, even in a Knicks uni.

But for RealGM purposes, some would rather kill themselves than to cheer for a team that can win alot of games with Melo as it's leader.

There are very few True Knicks Fans around these parts, no matter what they call themselves. :lol:
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Re: Melo is a great passer 

Post#90 » by moocow007 » Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:10 pm

He definitely doesn't deserve some of the crap he gets about not passing but I wouldn't call him a great passer either. He seems like smart passer, but for a guy that is obviously the number one option on his team since he was in HS, passing isn't his thing. He's not Lebron James nor should anyone expect him to be like James. One of the reason that we have so much angst on this board against Anthony is because people keep subconsciously expecting him to be Lebron and, when he shows hes not, they get upset. No reason to fall into the trap. Realize that he is what he is, accept that, and life would be much less stressful.
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Re: Melo is a great passer 

Post#91 » by GONYK » Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:10 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:
j4remi wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:
He could, winning more games and advancing in the playoffs will automatically change the perception.

I does for me with **cough-cough Durant cough-cough**


You know damn well this cast of old men, broken down players (stat), bad fits and downgrades (felton) will become the best supporting cast in the league before Melo gets that credit...you know it!

Melo will get his credit, even in a Knicks uni.

But for RealGM purposes, some would rather kill themselves than to cheer for a team that can win alot of games with Melo as it's leader.

There are very few True Knicks Fans around these parts, no matter what they call themselves. :lol:


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Re: Melo is a great passer 

Post#92 » by Fury » Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:14 pm

I think the supporting cast is pretty damn good other than the obvious blunder of downgrading to Felton. Since Melo, CAA, and Dolan, ITS DOLAN'S DECISION, yeah I know, but lets be real, if Melo wanted Lin here, he'd be here. Melo needs to step it up.
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Post#93 » by Thugger HBC » Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:16 pm

Fury wrote:I think the supporting cast is pretty damn good other than the obvious blunder of downgrading to Felton. Since Melo, CAA, and Dolan, ITS DOLAN'S DECISION, yeah I know, but lets be real, if Melo wanted Lin here, he'd be here. Melo needs to step it up.

Wrong thread sir.
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Re: Melo is a great passer 

Post#94 » by Fury » Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:21 pm

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Fury wrote:I think the supporting cast is pretty damn good other than the obvious blunder of downgrading to Felton. Since Melo, CAA, and Dolan, ITS DOLAN'S DECISION, yeah I know, but lets be real, if Melo wanted Lin here, he'd be here. Melo needs to step it up.

Wrong thread sir.


You're talking about Knick fans in a Melo passing thread. Wrong thread.
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Re: Melo is a great passer 

Post#95 » by Thugger HBC » Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:24 pm

Fury wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:
Fury wrote:I think the supporting cast is pretty damn good other than the obvious blunder of downgrading to Felton. Since Melo, CAA, and Dolan, ITS DOLAN'S DECISION, yeah I know, but lets be real, if Melo wanted Lin here, he'd be here. Melo needs to step it up.

Wrong thread sir.


You're talking about Knick fans in a Melo passing thread. Wrong thread.

Even though two of three sentences have Melo who is the topic in my post?

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Post#96 » by Thugger HBC » Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:25 pm

BTW, it is was green. :lol:
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Re: Melo is a great passer 

Post#97 » by Handledatruth » Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:30 pm

jremi wrote:This is an honest question, not meant in any disrespectful manner...but how many SF's averaged 5 assists or more last season? Matter of fact, how many F's?


Not many as stated above. But as I said before, he will need to be an MVP candidate to get people off his back. In order for him to be an MVP candidate he needs to step his assist game up, while shooting more efficiently. Kobe Bryant consistently hangs around the 4.5+ assist range while being a volume shooter/ball stopper (or whatever people want to call dominant offensive players these days). In some of his best MVP like seasons he managed to average almost 6 assists per game.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/kobe_brya ... stats.html

If Melo wants people off his back, he needs to become an efficient scorer WHILE getting his teammates involved. Not saying he can't, just saying this is what he needs to do.

If there is one thing D'Antoni was right about, it was the fact that Melo should be a triple double threat every night. It is time for him to start living up to the expectations. This is coming from someone who likes Melo btw, seeing that I defend him in most my posts.
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Re: Melo is a great passer 

Post#98 » by GONYK » Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:34 pm

Kobe isn't a forward
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Post#99 » by Thugger HBC » Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:35 pm

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jremi wrote:This is an honest question, not meant in any disrespectful manner...but how many SF's averaged 5 assists or more last season? Matter of fact, how many F's?


Not many as stated above. But as I said before, he will need to be an MVP candidate to get people off his back. In order for him to be an MVP candidate he needs to step his assist game up, while shooting more efficiently. Kobe Bryant consistently hangs around the 4.5+ assist range while being a volume shooter/ball stopper (or whatever people want to call dominant offensive players these days). In some of his best MVP like seasons he managed to average almost 6 assists per game.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/kobe_brya ... stats.html

If Melo wants people off his back, he needs to become an efficient scorer WHILE getting his teammates involved. Not saying he can't, just saying this is what he needs to do.

If there is one thing D'Antoni was right about, it was the fact that Melo should be a triple double threat every night. It is time for him to start living up to the expectations. This is coming from someone who likes Melo btw, seeing that I defend him in most my posts.


That might have been one of the top two most absurd things D'antoni had said while being our coach, and that was even with Chauncey being our pg at the time.

All Melo needs to do is get his efficiency up, which will translate into more team wins.

Melo surely is not gonna average more assists with three true pg's on the team.
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Re: Melo is a great passer 

Post#100 » by Fury » Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:42 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:Even though two of three sentences have Melo who is the topic in my post?

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Two out of the three sentences have Melo in my post too brah

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