Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLV "Re-Building" Edition)

MagicTownBaller · Post #1461 » by **MagicTownBaller** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:47 pm

Brian K. Schmitz @MagicInsider
Magic's Arron Afflalo, introduced Thur., says he learned of trade surfing net in Barcelona, then confirmed it "on http://t.co/FZY99JVT.

Afflalo playing on Denver during 'Melodrama: "When one player's gone, he's gone...you move forward."

Affalo: "Change always brings mystery, always brings doubt."

MagicTownBaller · Post #1462 » by **MagicTownBaller** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:49 pm

Brian K. Schmitz @MagicInsider
Magic, armed with $17 million exception after Howard deal, hope to acquire more draft picks from teams shipping players, trying to avoid tax

Al Harrington wants to make home in Orlando after Howard trade, but likely will be dealt this season or next summer in rebuild plan

Jiwol · Post #1463 » by **Jiwol** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:51 pm

Does TPE count against the cap?

TDJacksonville · Post #1464 » by **TDJacksonville** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:52 pm

hopefully we can get rid a of a few more of these bigger contracts Like Harrington and turks.

in-limbo · Post #1465 » by **in-limbo** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:53 pm

It does make the most sense that at the trade deadline we will be facilitators. The TPE really is a good asset with nice potential if the right situation presents itself. If there is a player that can be part of your future you could consider taking on the salary but it's most likely to be traded for first rounders within the next 2 drafts. I think we all basically agree on that.

TPE will be more valuable with the new labor deal in tha NBA, teams will need to shed salary to get under the cap. Who has a potential high lottery pick and needs to move a bad contract?

Edrock · Post #1466 » by **Edrock** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:54 pm

Jiwol wrote:TPE we have might be used in only one proper way: trading for some dead weight on horrible contract, who's out of the books during the summer of 2014 and taking a 1st round pick with it. If Henny fails to do so before our TPE expires - he should be beheaded.

The TPE can also be used to absorb a young player (not just a high priced veteran). I believe this is how the Thunder acquired Eric Maynor from Utah. Perhaps the Clippers will want to unload Bledsoe this way...

BadMofoPimp · Post #1467 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:01 pm

Potterman wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:That Houston deal was sweet. Lamb, Jones and two 1st rounders, one of which would have been a lottery pick. Henny turned that down to help the Lakers, Wow.

Dude you are either:
High, Trolling, Butt hurt, in need of therapy, or some combination/all the above.

I never liked the last reported Houston deal. I don't like the current deal we made on paper but we got a lot of future assets. Let's see what all those players they really offered us end up doing in the next 3 years and see how good or bad we did.

Not happy we traded with LA either. But I do not think the Houston deal was better at all.

FYI

That one lottery pick from Toronto is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than the (3) the Magic just got

and,

Lamb/Jones >>>>> Harkless/Vujacic/Afflalo/Harrington and adding all that salary to the cap.

I would just take all that Houston youth over a few vets and crappy 1st rounders.

MagicTownBaller · Post #1468 » by **MagicTownBaller** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:04 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:
Potterman wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:That Houston deal was sweet. Lamb, Jones and two 1st rounders, one of which would have been a lottery pick. Henny turned that down to help the Lakers, Wow.

Dude you are either:
High, Trolling, Butt hurt, in need of therapy, or some combination/all the above.

I never liked the last reported Houston deal. I don't like the current deal we made on paper but we got a lot of future assets. Let's see what all those players they really offered us end up doing in the next 3 years and see how good or bad we did.

Not happy we traded with LA either. But I do not think the Houston deal was better at all.

FYI

That one lottery pick from Toronto is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than the (3) the Magic just got

and,

Lamb/Jones >>>>> Harkless/Vujacic/Afflalo/Harrington and adding all that salary to the cap.

I would just take all that Houston youth over a few vets and crappy 1st rounders.

The problem is we weren't getting any of the things you mentioned except the Toronto pick (Which might not be that great)!

BadMofoPimp · Post #1469 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:07 pm

MagicTownBaller wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:
FYI

That one lottery pick from Toronto is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than the (3) the Magic just got

and,

Lamb/Jones >>>>> Harkless/Vujacic/Afflalo/Harrington and adding all that salary to the cap.

I would just take all that Houston youth over a few vets and crappy 1st rounders.

The problem is we weren't getting any of the things you mentioned except the Toronto pick (Which might not be that great)!

Well, I would take a 8-13 pick in the lottery over (3) Future picks in the 20-30 range that are all lottery protected. Heck, Detroit got Drummond with the 9th pick. But, that is just me and probably most GM's in the league. Regardless, I am interested to see what happens with that TPE.

Post #1470 » by **UCFJayBird** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:09 pm

Put BMP's quote in my signature. I really want to see if he's right after the season is over.

MagicTownBaller · Post #1471 » by **MagicTownBaller** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:10 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:
MagicTownBaller wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:
FYI

That one lottery pick from Toronto is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than the (3) the Magic just got

and,

Lamb/Jones >>>>> Harkless/Vujacic/Afflalo/Harrington and adding all that salary to the cap.

I would just take all that Houston youth over a few vets and crappy 1st rounders.

The problem is we weren't getting any of the things you mentioned except the Toronto pick (Which might not be that great)!

Well, I would take a 8-13 pick in the lottery over (3) Future picks in the 20-30 range that are all lottery protected. Heck, Detroit got Drummond with the 9th pick. But, that is just me and probably most GM's in the league. Regardless, I am interested to see what happens with that TPE.

What about the players? We weren't getting Lamb or Jones or DM. We took the best deal possible considering the circumstances.

BadMofoPimp · Post #1472 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:14 pm

MagicTownBaller wrote:What about the players? We weren't getting Lamb or Jones or DM. We took the best deal possible considering the circumstances.

Devos took the best deal, which was cash from the NBA and sponsors. The true best deal is patience and loyalty to your fans. That did not happen. And, the Houston deal was still a better deal. The Magic could have retooled in 2013 with Houston, but put themselves in a longer rebuild program to deal with the Lakers. Devos got paid, that is what happened.

JarethCutestory · Post #1473 » by **JarethCutestory** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:18 pm

IT'S A CONSPIRACY GUYS. TRUST THE GUY WITH THE BADMOFOPIMP USERNAME.

in-limbo · Post #1474 » by **in-limbo** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:18 pm

^ At least he is giving us something to discuss. Good job!

MagicTownBaller · Post #1475 » by **MagicTownBaller** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:25 pm

JarethCutestory wrote:IT'S A CONSPIRACY GUYS. TRUST THE GUY WITH THE BADMOFOPIMP USERNAME.

You spelled your name wrong. It's Chareth, not Jareth.

TDJacksonville · Post #1476 » by **TDJacksonville** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:28 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:
MagicTownBaller wrote:What about the players? We weren't getting Lamb or Jones or DM. We took the best deal possible considering the circumstances.

Devos took the best deal, which was cash from the NBA and sponsors. The true best deal is patience and loyalty to your fans. That did not happen. And, the Houston deal was still a better deal. The Magic could have retooled in 2013 with Houston, but put themselves in a longer rebuild program to deal with the Lakers. Devos got paid, that is what happened.

honestly who cares wat we could have done. in the words of Shakespeare wat is done is done!!!

Noonskadoodle · Post #1477 » by **Noonskadoodle** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:30 pm

in-limbo wrote:^ At least he is giving us something to discuss. Good job!

No he's not. He is just recycling the same old garbage he has been saying for the past week now.

Stern blah blah blah blah rigged.
Magic blah blah blah blah suck.
Dwight blah blah blah blah my baby daddy.
Devos blah blah blah blah troll.
Lakers blah blah blah blah farm system.

TDJacksonville · Post #1478 » by **TDJacksonville** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:32 pm

Noonskadoodle wrote:
in-limbo wrote:^ At least he is giving us something to discuss. Good job!

No he's not. He is just recycling the same old garbage he has been saying for the past week now.

Stern blah blah blah blah rigged.
Magic blah blah blah blah suck.
Dwight blah blah blah blah my baby daddy.
Devos blah blah blah blah troll.
Lakers blah blah blah blah farm system.

if only the mods would take care of this troll 8-)

RickB-Orlando · Post #1479 » by **RickB-Orlando** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:33 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:
MagicTownBaller wrote:What about the players? We weren't getting Lamb or Jones or DM. We took the best deal possible considering the circumstances.

Devos took the best deal, which was cash from the NBA and sponsors. The true best deal is patience and loyalty to your fans. That did not happen. And, the Houston deal was still a better deal. The Magic could have retooled in 2013 with Houston, but put themselves in a longer rebuild program to deal with the Lakers. Devos got paid, that is what happened.

Well that's pure BS - BMP, you've lost your mind or have been drinking way too much - or both.

TDJacksonville · Post #1480 » by **TDJacksonville** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:36 pm

RickB-Orlando wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:
MagicTownBaller wrote:What about the players? We weren't getting Lamb or Jones or DM. We took the best deal possible considering the circumstances.

Devos took the best deal, which was cash from the NBA and sponsors. The true best deal is patience and loyalty to your fans. That did not happen. And, the Houston deal was still a better deal. The Magic could have retooled in 2013 with Houston, but put themselves in a longer rebuild program to deal with the Lakers. Devos got paid, that is what happened.

Well that's pure BS - BMP, you've lost your mind or have been drinking way too much - or both.

forgot drugs bro :wink:

. Crack makes u go wack so id say hes on crack