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Post#121 » by LittleOzzy » Sat Sep 8, 2012 2:07 am

CZAR85 wrote:Biggest win for us since the 2000 Gold Cup. Need to follow it up with another big game in Panama. 100% agree with our problem scoring goals but it is not just a problem in this round. We did not score a goal against Puerto Rico either in the last round. Josh Simpson can bring speed on the left side with Jackson on the right side would help a lot. That was a big loss for us. We need him back ASAP. Obviously being able to finish the chances we get would help too. McKenna needs to finish that 2nd chance in the 1st half.


We scored 3 against Puerto Rico. The last round we actually had plenty of chances, those opportunities seemed to have all dried up though. DeRo needs to attack more, he holds back to often looking for a better ball, but he has the skill to finish if he just pushes forward.

I agree about McKenna, he had two great chances and he should have buried one of them.
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Post#122 » by Kaizen » Sat Sep 8, 2012 2:14 am

Point remains two 0-0 draws is terrible in the last round. Both games still mattered at the time too.
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Post#123 » by edfmx86 » Sat Sep 8, 2012 4:15 am

Mexico wins 2-0. The Peralta-Chicharito thing didnt really work out, both goals came from defenders on corner kicks. We'll see what Chepo does for the match on Tuesday. Guardado played really well tonight.
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Post#124 » by KF10 » Sat Sep 8, 2012 7:29 am

Relatively easy game for Mexico after the first 10-15 minutes.

Yeah, Peralta-Hernandez duo wasn't as effective like I thought initially. I wouldn't object to the idea of Hernandez as a super-sub against tired legs in the final third of the game. Fabian takes Hernandez's spot.

Mexico will clinch first place of its group will advance to the Hex and if they defeat Costa Rica at the Azteca.

Get well Giovani! We need you soon.
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Post#125 » by Mattd97 » Sat Sep 8, 2012 7:33 am

LittleOzzy wrote:
CZAR85 wrote:Biggest win for us since the 2000 Gold Cup. Need to follow it up with another big game in Panama. 100% agree with our problem scoring goals but it is not just a problem in this round. We did not score a goal against Puerto Rico either in the last round. Josh Simpson can bring speed on the left side with Jackson on the right side would help a lot. That was a big loss for us. We need him back ASAP. Obviously being able to finish the chances we get would help too. McKenna needs to finish that 2nd chance in the 1st half.


We scored 3 against Puerto Rico. The last round we actually had plenty of chances, those opportunities seemed to have all dried up though. DeRo needs to attack more, he holds back to often looking for a better ball, but he has the skill to finish if he just pushes forward.

I agree about McKenna, he had two great chances and he should have buried one of them.


we had several chances, we just have zero finishers outside dero. the simeon jackson miss from 2 feet against honduras still hurts.
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Post#126 » by J-Mezzy » Sat Sep 8, 2012 11:11 am

KF10 wrote:Relatively easy game for Mexico after the first 10-15 minutes.

Yeah, Peralta-Hernandez duo wasn't as effective like I thought initially. I wouldn't object to the idea of Hernandez as a super-sub against tired legs in the final third of the game. Fabian takes Hernandez's spot.

Mexico will clinch first place of its group will advance to the Hex and if they defeat Costa Rica at the Azteca.

Get well Giovani! We need you soon.


I don't about Chicharo off the bench. I think that the Dos Santos/Salcido/Hernandez trio has been lethal for Mexico. Man, Mexico is truly enjoying a golden era of talent.
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Post#127 » by KF10 » Sat Sep 8, 2012 1:01 pm

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I don't about Chicharo off the bench. I think that the Dos Santos/Salcido/Hernandez trio has been lethal for Mexico. Man, Mexico is truly enjoying a golden era of talent.


Meh, Salcido isn't really much use for Mexico to be honest other than his experience (defense) and the occasional forward passes he does. Most of the time, I yell out his name in frustration at my tv screen when he lose balls i.e. makes horrible passes or does something stupid. Guys like Enriquez, Herrera and Jonas can easily replace him imo.

The thing about Hernandez is that he isn't producing with the NT as of late. Which is weird because he is a beast of a goal scorer in the NT-level. Unfortunately, he is in a rough patch currently (& with United too). I rather opt for Fabian/Peralta partnership right now due to their chemistry together during the Olympics.

That said, the best case scenario for me (attacking players) is:

------------------Hernandez---------------
---Guardado------Vela-------Giovani---

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Peralta
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Post#128 » by J-Mezzy » Sat Sep 8, 2012 4:06 pm

KF10 wrote:
J-Mezzy wrote:
I don't about Chicharo off the bench. I think that the Dos Santos/Salcido/Hernandez trio has been lethal for Mexico. Man, Mexico is truly enjoying a golden era of talent.


Meh, Salcido isn't really much use for Mexico to be honest other than his experience (defense) and the occasional forward passes he does. Most of the time, I yell out his name in frustration at my tv screen when he lose balls i.e. makes horrible passes or does something stupid. Guys like Enriquez, Herrera and Jonas can easily replace him imo.

The thing about Hernandez is that he isn't producing with the NT as of late. Which is weird because he is a beast of a goal scorer in the NT-level. Unfortunately, he is in a rough patch currently (& with United too). I rather opt for Fabian/Peralta partnership right now due to their chemistry together during the Olympics.

That said, the best case scenario for me (attacking players) is:

------------------Hernandez---------------
---Guardado------Vela-------Giovani---

Subs:

Peralta
Fabian
De Nigris



I meant Guardado not Salcido, my bad lol
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Post#129 » by baulderdash77 » Sat Sep 8, 2012 6:11 pm

Mattd97 wrote:
we had several chances, we just have zero finishers outside dero. the simeon jackson miss from 2 feet against honduras still hurts.


Occean is a great finisher, but with just the 1 central player they were blanketing him in deep.

The 4-5-1 (or defensive 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1 if you like) we've been playing is responsible for all the clean sheets we've been getting but it also does limit you offensively.

We had 5 good scoring chances and converted 1 and they only had 2 good scoring chances. This style of play of suffocating defense will serve us well in the Hex but we have to make it there. The conversion rate of our scoring chances has to improve to win more consistently.
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Post#130 » by ForeverTFC » Sun Sep 9, 2012 3:20 pm

I don't think it's necessarily a lack of chances for us. The style which we play does not allow for attack mode - chance after chance - football. We are having a real problem taking advantage of our opportunities. Everyone is aware of our inability to convert chances right now, but at times we just can't put through that decisive final pass either.

Still, 5 clean sheets in a row? :clap:
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Post#131 » by J-Mezzy » Sun Sep 9, 2012 6:26 pm

Chile vs Colombia
Uruguay vs Ecuador
Paraguay vs Venezuela
Peru vs Argentina
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Post#132 » by J-Mezzy » Sun Sep 9, 2012 10:50 pm

I'll take Colombia (homer pick), Uruguay, Paraguay, and Argentina
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Post#133 » by LittleOzzy » Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:40 pm

This is tense. We have been hurt by the fact that none of the games between Honduras/Panama/Cuba have resulted in draws.

So. Cuba are virtually eliminated (there is a scenario where they could win all their games, and everyone else draws in all other games, that gets them through, but it's farfetched). I am assuming Cuba will lose out. I am certainly sure Honduras will beat Cuba Tuesday.

If we win Tuesday: we are on 10 points, and a win against Cuba would put us through, as both Honduras and Panama cannot reach 13 points.

If we draw Tuesday: Canada would be on 8 points, and Panama and Honduras would be on 7 points, with 2 games to go. If Canada then beats Cuba, we are on 11, with Honduras and Panama playing the same night. If there were a result in the Panama-Honduras game, leaving one team on 7 points, we would be through. In the event of a draw in the Panama-Honduras game, there would be the chance of a 3 way tie on 11 points (if Panama beat Cuba and Honduras beat Canada on the last day). This scenario is not so farfetched, and the head-to-head records would be identical (with everybody having beaten Cuba twice). So goal differential would come into it. We need to keep an eye on this, we may need goals in the Cuba game.

If we lose Tuesday, we will wake up in third place (Panama 9, Honduras 7, Canada 7 but behind Honduras on goal differential), and will therefore, even if we beat Cuba at home, almost certainly need a result in Honduras (at least a draw, and possibly a win, depending on goal differential)

To recap: with a win Tuesday, we definitely can clinch against Cuba. With a draw, we have a decent chance of clinching against Cuba. With a loss, we will probably need to both beat Cuba and get a draw or better in Honduras.

Tuesday's game is for all the marbles.
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Post#134 » by LittleOzzy » Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:09 am

Boisterous Panama fans greet Canadian soccer team on eve of critical match

If the Canadian men's soccer team was hoping for a good night's sleep Monday, here's hoping the players packed some ear plugs.

Noisy Panamanian supporters planned to camp outside the Canadians' hotel for the second consecutive night Monday to throw off the opposition ahead of Tuesday's important World Cup qualifier.

"We'll see what happens," said captain Kevin McKenna. "I'm sure there were police there so we'll see."

Canada is first in its group halfway through the stage following Friday's 1-0 victory over Panama at Toronto's BMO Field. Gaining four points from its remaining three games would allow Canada to advance to the final round for the first time since 1998.

Panama is pulling out all the stops to avenge Canada's win. On Sunday night, more than 100 Panamanian supporters stood outside the Canadian hotel banging drums, setting off fireworks and inviting passing motorists to honk their horns.

"I've got three kids at home. I'm conditioned," coach Stephen Hart joked when asked how he slept. "It's normal."

Sunday's antics may have been just the warm-up act as local radio shows and newspapers encouraged fans to show up at the hotel with car stereos blaring.

Cars did their best to delay the Canadian team's bus en route to the stadium for training.

A capacity crowd of 31,000 fans is expected for Tuesday's game at the Estadio Rommel Fernandez in what could be the first truly hostile crowd of Canada's World Cup qualifying run. Previous gatherings in Puerto Rico, St. Lucia, St. Kitts and Cuba were far from overwhelming.


http://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/story/2 ... kenna.html

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Post#135 » by edfmx86 » Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:46 am

Been following this thing on Twitter. The Panamanian Soccer Federation sent out a tweet with the hotel address. Sounds like things are getting crazy over there. Crazy ass fans
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Post#136 » by Santoki » Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:41 pm

Canada has to get at least a point in this match. It's going to be Panama controlling most of the game with Canada just making sure they keep it tight at the back. 0-0 is the aim and then clinch at home against Cuba. Anything less than a point makes things very, very difficult. The result of this game will decide the group winner, imo.
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Post#137 » by LittleOzzy » Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:00 am

Canada Soccer should be happy that tonight's game is on CityTV.

Should draw a big audience.
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Post#138 » by J-Mezzy » Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:22 am

Colombia beat Chile 3-1 in Chile. Colombia is on a roll. We are going to the world cup for sure unless we suck on the second half of the qualifiers
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Post#139 » by Santoki » Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:56 am

J-Mezzy wrote:Colombia beat Chile 3-1 in Chile. Colombia is on a roll. We are going to the world cup for sure unless we suck on the second half of the qualifiers


Be nice to see Colombia back at the World Cup with Falcao anchoring the team. With the right draw, they could pull off similar to what Uruguay did in 2010. They have the potential just need the consistency now.
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Post#140 » by SirHuey » Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:59 am

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