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Post#1 » by MGD24 » Sun Sep 30, 2012 11:58 pm

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Monday October 1st: 7:07 pm, Aaron Laffey (4-6, 4.52) Vs. Esmerling Vasquez (0-2, 5.88)
Tuesday September 25th: 7:05 pm, Carlos Villanueva (7-7, 4.16) Vs. Samuel Deduno (6-5, 4.44 ERA)
Wednesday September 26th: 7:05 pm, Brandon Morrow (9-7, 3.09) Vs. Scott Diamond (12-8, 3.54 ERA)
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Re: ST: Twins vs Jays - October 1-3, 2012 (Final series) 

Post#2 » by Ado05 » Mon Oct 1, 2012 7:28 pm

Is the blue jays section always so empty?
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Re: ST: Twins vs Jays - October 1-3, 2012 (Final series) 

Post#3 » by MGD24 » Mon Oct 1, 2012 7:34 pm

Adrian_05 wrote:Is the blue jays section always so empty?


Nope.
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Re: ST: Twins vs Jays - October 1-3, 2012 (Final series) 

Post#4 » by SharoneWright » Mon Oct 1, 2012 8:19 pm

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Re: ST: Twins vs Jays - October 1-3, 2012 (Final series) 

Post#5 » by BigLeagueChew » Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:16 pm

Lineup Oct. 1:

Davis 9
Rasmus 8
Lawrie 5
Lind 3
Escobar dh
Johnson 4
Hechavarria 6
Mathis 2
Gose 7
Laffey 1

no Edwin :(
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Re: ST: Twins vs Jays - October 1-3, 2012 (Final series) 

Post#6 » by Kaizen » Tue Oct 2, 2012 12:27 am

Jenkins is starting tomorrow instead of Villanueva.
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Re: ST: Twins vs Jays - October 1-3, 2012 (Final series) 

Post#7 » by zilby » Tue Oct 2, 2012 12:41 am

Finally done this misery? Whew. We can finally wake up from the nightmare.

Hopefully next season will be better. With a healthy squad, and hopefully some revamped talent, we can be competitive. Too bad we got really unlucky this season.
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Re: ST: Twins vs Jays - October 1-3, 2012 (Final series) 

Post#8 » by Santoki » Tue Oct 2, 2012 1:21 am

Realized that the home opener was against the Twins last year and they close out against them this year. That's about the only interesting thing I could find in this series. Baseball is brutally long.
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Re: ST: Twins vs Jays - October 1-3, 2012 (Final series) 

Post#9 » by Ian4 » Tue Oct 2, 2012 2:04 am

YAN Gomes!1!!

Jays in 4 :lol:
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Re: ST: Twins vs Jays - October 1-3, 2012 (Final series) 

Post#10 » by Ian4 » Tue Oct 2, 2012 2:20 am

Lol what a game we have here to bad it means nothing
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Re: ST: Twins vs Jays - October 1-3, 2012 (Final series) 

Post#11 » by Ian4 » Tue Oct 2, 2012 2:22 am

Good job Gose Jays win
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Re: ST: Twins vs Jays - October 1-3, 2012 (Final series) 

Post#12 » by NeverGoingToWin » Tue Oct 2, 2012 2:25 am

I want to lose these games but I am happy to see Gose had the winning hit and Hech had the winning run.
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Re: ST: Twins vs Jays - October 1-3, 2012 (Final series) 

Post#13 » by spykelee » Tue Oct 2, 2012 4:57 am

AirCanada_1515 wrote:I want to lose these games but I am happy to see Gose had the winning hit and Hech had the winning run.


Why, with three games remaining and nothing on the line do you want to lose? I was happy to see Gomes and Gose and Hech be the guys who came through for us at the end of the day.
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Re: ST: Twins vs Jays - October 1-3, 2012 (Final series) 

Post#14 » by BigLeagueChew » Tue Oct 2, 2012 5:22 am

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AirCanada_1515 wrote:I want to lose these games but I am happy to see Gose had the winning hit and Hech had the winning run.


Why, with three games remaining and nothing on the line do you want to lose? I was happy to see Gomes and Gose and Hech be the guys who came through for us at the end of the day.


People want to tank for a first round pick that might not sign or go to school instead.
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Re: ST: Twins vs Jays - October 1-3, 2012 (Final series) 

Post#15 » by satyr9 » Tue Oct 2, 2012 4:36 pm

BigLeagueChew wrote:
spykelee wrote:
AirCanada_1515 wrote:I want to lose these games but I am happy to see Gose had the winning hit and Hech had the winning run.


Why, with three games remaining and nothing on the line do you want to lose? I was happy to see Gomes and Gose and Hech be the guys who came through for us at the end of the day.


People want to tank for a first round pick that might not sign or go to school instead.


I was curious so I was looking at where we could finish (7th to 11th) for draft picks with 2 games to go. Looking at 03-07 ('cause the last 4 years at least are impossible to rate yet) there's really almost no discernible difference for where you pick in this range.

2007=Y.Alonso, G.Beckham, A.Crow, J.Castro, J.Smoak. So prospectwise your Smoak vs. Alonso thing was very tight for a very long time.
2006=C.Kershaw, D.Stubbs, B.Rowell, T.Lincecum, M.Scherzer. Okay Kershaw is easily best, but Lincecum at 10 instead? Hardly even a consolation prize.
2005=Tulowitzki, W.Townsend, M.Pelfrey, C.Maybin, A.McCutchen. Hard to say if I'd rather have Tulo or McCutchen, but these days it's probably McCutchen.
2004=H.Bailey, W.Townsend (doesn't bode well for Appel that he's here twice), C.Nelson, T.Diamond, N.Walker. Pretty crappy all around with Walker and Bailey as kind of late-bloomers.
2003=N.Markakis, P.Maholm, J.Danks, I.Stewart, M.Aubry.

Pretty good rate of return for hits and misses as far as making MLB goes. But there's pretty much no way to value 7th over 11th by any significant margin, especially as a non-professional scout. I'd be far happier winning the last two, avoiding 90 losses by the skin of their teeth, and drafting a couple spots lower. Last year would've been a bit different as finishing 16th instead of 15th is totally crap under the old compensation system, but I don't think any of that nonsense applies anymore.

So thankfully in baseball there is almost no time where tanking is worth jack squat.
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Re: ST: Twins vs Jays - October 1-3, 2012 (Final series) 

Post#16 » by NeverGoingToWin » Tue Oct 2, 2012 7:46 pm

Jays lineup:

Davis 7
Escobar 6
Lawrie 5
Lind 3
JPA 2
Johnson 0
Hech 4
Sierra 9
Gose 8

Jenkins 1 vs Swarzak 1
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Re: ST: Twins vs Jays - October 1-3, 2012 (Final series) 

Post#17 » by BigLeagueChew » Tue Oct 2, 2012 8:44 pm

Mauer has a chance to win the batting title still. Intentionally walk him 4 times :wink:
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Re: ST: Twins vs Jays - October 1-3, 2012 (Final series) 

Post#18 » by NeverGoingToWin » Tue Oct 2, 2012 9:22 pm

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/84501 ... inners-mlb

AL LVP (LEAST VALUBLE PLAYER): Yunel Escobar

It's now 27 months since the Blue Jays made the Braves' day by trading for the talented but troubled Yunel Escobar. Well, it seemed like a brilliant idea at the time. In fact, it even seemed like a brilliant idea as recently as 12 months ago, after Escobar had finished hitting .290 with a .782 OPS and the best on-base percentage (.369) of any shortstop in the whole darned American League. But that was last year. This year? Yikes.

Guess who has had the worst OPS (.644) of any qualifying AL shortstop? Right you are. Yunel Escobar. And guess who has had the fewest extra-base hits (32) and created the fewest runs in that group? Yep, same guy. But this is one LVP candidacy that's bigger and uglier than any numbers. Ask the people around this club who grumble that "Yunel Escobar finds a way to do something stupid every game." Ask the scouts who use words such as "disgusting" to describe his daily lack of focus and commitment. Ask the baseball man who says: "I think he actually enjoys ticking people off with the things he does. He knows he ticks them off, and he does it anyway." Or ask all the people he offended when he etched a homophobic slur into his eye black -- and then acted as if he hadn't done anything particularly offensive. So what we have here is a guy who has hit the LVP daily double: He's been a lousy baseball player -- and a worse act.

AL CY YUK: Ricky Romero

A year ago this time, if you could have bought stock in one young left-handed starter in the entire American League, there's a good chance you'd have invested in Ricky Romero, Inc. And what if you had? Ummmm, you'd be wishing about now that you'd bought Facebook. That's what.

Because a funny thing happened to Romero this year on his way to acehood: The league figured him out. It doesn't do much good to have one of the great changeups on earth if you never get ahead with any of your other stuff. And that's been the story of Romero's shockingly disastrous season. He owns the worst walk-to-strikeout ratio (105 walks, 124 whiffs) of any qualifying starter in baseball. (In fact, it's the third-worst ratio in the past 15 seasons among AL starters with 100 or more strikeouts.) He also owns the highest ERA (5.77) and WHIP (1.67) of any qualifying starter in baseball. And that wouldn't be good no matter what the heck was happening around him. But in Romero's case, what was happening was that about 46 other Blue Jays pitchers were heading for the disabled list.

And just when they needed him most, to keep the season from capsizing, he managed to go 15 consecutive starts without a win -- and couldn't even claim bad luck, considering he went 0-13 with a 7.42 ERA and .898 opponent OPS in that stretch. He lost 13 times in 14 trips to the mound at one point. And you want to know how tough that is? Only one other AL starter in the 52-season expansion era has ever done that (Mike Parrott, of the 1980 Mariners). So it ain't easy. With this guy's ability, he could easily get himself back on the CNBC "Buy" list by next year this time. And who knows? Maybe, after he wins his first Cy Young, he'll even attribute it to everything he learned from this horrifying outbreak of Cy Yukkiness.
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Re: ST: Twins vs Jays - October 1-3, 2012 (Final series) 

Post#19 » by BigLeagueChew » Wed Oct 3, 2012 12:33 am

Decent start by Jenkins, 4-2 Jays bottom of 6.
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Re: ST: Twins vs Jays - October 1-3, 2012 (Final series) 

Post#20 » by BigLeagueChew » Wed Oct 3, 2012 1:41 am

Janssen gets the save, jays finish 4th in the division and the Red Sox finish last for the first time since 1992.

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