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Re: Official Non-Nets Offseason Discussion 

Post#521 » by vincecarter4pres » Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:14 pm

624 wrote:Now that Jeremy Lamb is in OKC, I wonder how Durant and Westbrook will respond to being the 2nd and 3rd options.

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Re: Official Non-Nets Offseason Discussion 

Post#522 » by vincecarter4pres » Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:22 pm

therealbig3 wrote:BTW, someone made an interesting point earlier...what if Lamb does break out as a legitimate stud with All-Star potential? After his 3rd year, Westbrook/Durant/Ibaka are still going to be locked up in big deals, and he'll be in the exact same position as Harden contractually. Does OKC just do it all over again and trade away Lamb like they did Harden?

For a young franchise that made plenty of money and has great fan support, and not only has a great, championship-caliber core right now, but would have had one no doubt for the next 7+ years, it seems really weird to let a key piece of that core go to save a few bucks.

IDK, Harden being traded like that is still a surprise to me.

Someone on the GB said OKC made a $35 million profit last year, reputable poster who really never BS's either, forget who it was.

I also remember someone linking it earlier this offseason to like a Forbes article or something as well about the small handful of small market teams in the NBA who made a profit and OKC was one of the top few teams with 10's of millions in profit.

Amazing that over about $6 million over 4 years, even if we say triple that for tax, they would let him get away.

I still think this was done with a future move in mind. Stuff we as fans and even reporters don't know about so much right now.

Like a few years ago when others and I were saying it was blatantly obvious Chris Paul and Deron Williams would be traded. Real life general managers and team presidents probably actually had heard that either second hand or directly from vague initial exploratory talks with the Hornets and Jazz respectively.

There's probably a good chance they're hearing 3 or 4 names such as Josh Smith, LaMarcus Aldridge, Kevin Love and Cousins are in situations where if it doesn't go peachy keen this season, they'll be moved either at the deadline or the more likely of draft night.

Harden couldn't be moved on draft night and as attractive as it is to land him at the deadline and have him locked up as a RFA, any team trading one of those guys is more or less going into a nuclear blowup and wants to cut salary and really wins for the next 2 seasons in order to tank effectively and keep their core all in the same age range, so now Ibaka, PJ III, the Toronto pick, Lamb, the Dallas pick, their own picks, these all become very attractive assets, maybe over a player like Harden. Or again, if it's a draft night move, they would be stuck not even being able to trade Harden.
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Re: Official Non-Nets Offseason Discussion 

Post#523 » by deepblueday » Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:07 pm

strong feeling GG is going to step seamlessly into granger's role and show he's a better player than GW at this point
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Re: Official Non-Nets Offseason Discussion 

Post#524 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:58 pm

deepblueday wrote:strong feeling GG is going to step seamlessly into granger's role and show he's a better player than GW at this point

Whoa, breathe in, breathe out, it will all be OK haha.

Gerald Green is not even close to as good as you're thinking. I was sad to see him go as well, but come on man. :lol:
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Re: Official Non-Nets Offseason Discussion 

Post#525 » by 624 » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:33 pm

If Gerald Green wasn't such a sick highlight dunker no one would think twice about losing him.
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Re: Official Non-Nets Offseason Discussion 

Post#526 » by NyCeEvO » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:37 pm

624 wrote:If Gerald Green wasn't such a sick highlight dunker no one would think twice about losing him.
Exactly.

Great athleticism and now he hits the 3 at an acceptable clip, but we didn't lose an unbelievable overall talent.
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Re: Official Non-Nets Offseason Discussion 

Post#527 » by jeff1624 » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:43 pm

This teams lacks athleticism... he would actually fit a need since our most athletic player is arguably Kris Humphries.
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Post#528 » by deepblueday » Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:02 pm

if you think gerald wallace at this point is anything more than equal as a player to the GG that played for us last year, then you are vastly overrating the impact of his current floor game and defense, and probably underrating his general scrubiness on offense. i'm praying for improvement, because crash has looked like an apathetic scrub this preseason, can't make a shot, can't create anything, constantly doubled and sagged off. and he sucked for us last year too. i'll be generous and say he's an above average defender since coming to the nets, but it couldn't be more clear his days as a dominant defensive player are long gone.

i guess we'll see if GG can keep up his play from last year, and with increased minutes as well, but i'm not betting against him.
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Re: Official Non-Nets Offseason Discussion 

Post#529 » by Paradise » Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:04 pm

deepblueday wrote:if you think gerald wallace at this point is anything more than equal as a player to the GG that played for us last year, then you are vastly overrating the impact of his current floor game and defense, and probably underrating his general scrubiness on offense. i'm praying for improvement, because crash has looked like an apathetic scrub this preseason, can't make a shot, can't create anything, constantly doubled and sagged off. and he sucked for us last year too. i'll be generous and say he's an above average defender since coming to the nets, but it couldn't be more clear his days as a dominant defensive player are long gone.

i guess we'll see if GG can keep up his play from last year, and with increased minutes as well, but i'm not betting against him.

I think he's just getting in shape. He looked winded in every game.
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Re: Official Non-Nets Offseason Discussion 

Post#530 » by deepblueday » Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:06 pm

stop with the bull homerism. freak athlete, great shooter both stand still and off the dribble, good one on one scorer, gets himself dunks and fast break opportunities, solid on defense.

if we hadn't lost him no one here would be writing off the talent he displayed last season
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Re: Official Non-Nets Offseason Discussion 

Post#531 » by N Ireland Nets » Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:11 am

Btw I bet OKC are targeting a top Center in the draft with the raptors lotto bound pick. Look at it like this, if the raptors end up around 7-14 pick range, OKC will go all out for Rudy Gobert.

Then they will look to trade away Perkins or amnesty him because they are looking to keep space to sign players like Lamb or Goberts down the line that they couldn't do because of the Perkins deal.

The Thunder team will be nuts if Lamb turns into the player I believe he will be with players like Perry Jones III off the bench. Rudy Gobert would be a great Center for OKC.

Westbrook
Lamb
Durant
Ibaka
Gobert

Would be sick. All locked in long term as well with some room to make good signings.
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Re: Official Non-Nets Offseason Discussion 

Post#532 » by NyCeEvO » Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:23 am

NIN, so glad you can go to the game man! Hoping for the W!
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Re: Official Non-Nets Offseason Discussion 

Post#533 » by N Ireland Nets » Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:55 pm

NyCeEvO wrote:NIN, so glad you can go to the game man! Hoping for the W!


Thanks man!!!

I'm hoping for the win as well obviously but not to be corny or anything but its so much more than that for us. We're finally a big market team with financial clout to get players to force their way to us through trades etc with 1st class facilities.

It's basically a celebration of the Nets now that we should become the bullies with the other big name franchises rather than being bullied.

Can't wait to see the team play.
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Re: Official Non-Nets Offseason Discussion 

Post#534 » by NyCeEvO » Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:45 pm

Eric Gordon, out indefinitely with injured knee.

Man, talk about injury prone.

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