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Re: BUTKUS: Bears Destroy Titans PG Thread 

Post#41 » by Jake0890 » Tue Nov 6, 2012 8:12 pm

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BIGGIEsmalls 23 wrote:If we go by this, Atlanta has played an even weaker schedule. I feel that any team can beat another on 'Any Given Sunday', so I only focus on the records before the season. Everybody starts at a record of 0-0.

Our victories thus far have contributed to those teams having sub-par records & disastrous stats.

The Cowboys were considered SB contenders (like always) before the season. We routed them, while other supposed contenders have struggled with them. The Colts are in playoff contention. The Panthers have lost a lot of close games. The Lions are in contention. The Rams would have a winning record, if not for a couple of close losses.

If our O-Line & playcalling improves, we will be even better.


All the teams you mentioned are mediocre. Whether or not the Rams, olts, Panthers and Lions are contenders means nothing. Yheyre simply mediocre teams. Cowboys are so inconsistent, I'm not sure many people consider them a threat at this point. We've gotta beat good teams to be considered good, and we havent played a spectacular team (maybe the packers) up to this week.

You can only play who is in front of you.

It'd be one thing if the Bears lost those games against mediocre teams...But they haven't. They haven't even come close to losing them besides that Panther's game. So, we can say, with confidence, that the Bears are better than mediocre. And I think being better than mediocre is just a really not fancy way of saying they're good. So, we can probably go ahead and consider ourselves good. (You can also look at the success of the team when healthy the past 2 seasons to make this point as well).

The question is "How good?" We could be SB contenders or we could be just playoff fodder. We're not going to find out in these next 2 weeks when we actually do play good teams. Only time we will find out is when we get in the playoffs.


Yeah, we're definitely good. I have no doubt about that, my point was that we haven't proven to anyone yet that we can beat the best. We lost to the Packers, who were the best team on our schedule up to this point.
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Re: BUTKUS: Bears Destroy Titans PG Thread 

Post#42 » by sopclod » Thu Nov 8, 2012 7:26 pm

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Pong-Man83 wrote:Im with fleet. Play calling is bad because the offensive line is bad. They can't handle the plays we want to run.


I'm not buying that as an excuse. The offensive line is much better at run blocking than pass blocking. Our defense, special teams, and running game has been solid in every game this year, but we still throw hail-Mary passes every game. Yeah, I know that Jay completed one to Marshall, but what % is that?

Look at the Packers. They can't protect against the pass rush either, and they have one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. Instead of throwing hail-Mary passes Rodgers alternates between 3 yard passes, 5 yard passes, and 10 yard passes.

Know your personnel. Honestly, I don't see how the play-calling could not improve. Tice didn't get this far in his coaching career by knowing less about football than people who complain about the Bears on the internet. He has to know that we need to run the ball more and do more short passes. IMHO the game that had the worst play calling was the Packers game, and a lot of that had to do with abandoning the run after Forte got hurt. I can't imagine that the play calling will be as bad when we play the Packers again.


I really wish we would run more short passing plays, like 3 steps or less. Send Hester and/or Marshall down the field to give the DBs something to think about and then throw a short pass to Bennett or dump off to Forte is necessary. Too bad we don't have tight ends that can catch a pass.
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Re: BUTKUS: Bears Destroy Titans PG Thread 

Post#43 » by Jake0890 » Thu Nov 8, 2012 10:04 pm

^ Naaaah. Not at all. I think the way we pass the ball now is fine, it's just that we do it too often and in bad situations.

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