Kemba Walker

[Scout Taron]

You realize kemba could have even better assist numbers except he spends 30 mins on the floor with another pg thats also much better than knight in ramon sessions right

You were making a valid point until the bolded part. Its uncalled for really.

That said, we can agree everyone on the Pistons roster is better than Biyombo.

Sessions is actually a lot better than Knight is.

[ComboGuardCity]

You realize kemba could have even better assist numbers except he spends 30 mins on the floor with another pg thats also much better than knight in ramon sessions right

You were making a valid point until the bolded part. Its uncalled for really.

That said, we can agree everyone on the Pistons roster is better than Biyombo.

Sessions is actually a lot better than Knight is.

Jesus did Knight kill your puppy? Ramon Sessions and Knight should even be a comparison in this thread as his ability vs Knight's is irrelevant to the discussion.

[Scout Taron]

You were making a valid point until the bolded part. Its uncalled for really.

That said, we can agree everyone on the Pistons roster is better than Biyombo.

Sessions is actually a lot better than Knight is.

Jesus did Knight kill your puppy? Ramon Sessions and Knight should even be a comparison in this thread as his ability vs Knight's is irrelevant to the discussion.

Well you said, that his point about Kemba was legitimate until he said that Knight was better than Sessions. So clearly, Sessions' ability is very important to this discussion in your eyes, as it validates or devalidates his point.

But yeah, Sessions has never had a season as bad as Knight had last year. He's definitely better.

[MrBigShot]

Sessions is a better PG. Not sure if he's a better player though. Sucks at D, can't really shoot...

Not the point though. I think Kemba is ahead of Knight as a PG imo...despite what the assist numbers say.

[ComboGuardCity]

Well you said, that his point about Kemba was legitimate until he said that Knight was better than Sessions. So clearly, Sessions' ability is very important to this discussion in your eyes, as it validates or devalidates his point.

But yeah, Sessions has never had a season as bad as Knight had last year. He's definitely better.

The Sessions comment was meant to troll on his part. I was not questioning the validity of the statement rather WHY he said it.

[Goldtop]

That's actually 100% inaccurate. Considering that prior to his "breakout season", Kemba was considered a mid-late 1st round pick as a pass-first point guard.

Actually what was innaccurate was obviuosly that scouting report, considering he has not been a pass-first PG at all in the league, which is what the debate is about. Not which one was better in college.

[Blkbrd671]

But yeah, Sessions has never had a season as bad as Knight had last year. He's definitely better.

Totally disagree with your reasoning, I see Sessions as on par with Knight.

[Scout Taron]

That's actually 100% inaccurate. Considering that prior to his "breakout season", Kemba was considered a mid-late 1st round pick as a pass-first point guard.

Actually what was innaccurate was obviuosly that scouting report, considering he has not been a pass-first PG at all in the league, which is what the debate is about. Not which one was better in college.

I don't understand how Knight has demonstrated being a pass-first point any more than Kemba has. Both Knight and Kemba have spent almost all their time in two point guard offenses (Stuckey for Knight and Augustin/Sessions for Kemba). Kemba was a better passer last year despite playing less minutes, although I would say Knight was overall better due to being a more effecient scorer (but still below average). And now this year, Kemba is significantly outplaying Knight in general.

Nothing either has shown has given them an "advantage" of developing into a pass-first point.

[ComboGuardCity]

sick buzzer beater by Kemba though. He has been very impressive early on.

[Scout Taron]

But yeah, Sessions has never had a season as bad as Knight had last year. He's definitely better.

Totally disagree with your reasoning, I see Sessions as on par with Knight.

Meh. I tend to think Knight being our "point guard of the future" has blinded people to how terrible he has been the past two seasons.

[Goldtop]

That's actually 100% inaccurate. Considering that prior to his "breakout season", Kemba was considered a mid-late 1st round pick as a pass-first point guard.

Actually what was innaccurate was obviuosly that scouting report, considering he has not been a pass-first PG at all in the league, which is what the debate is about. Not which one was better in college.

I don't understand how Knight has demonstrated being a pass-first point any more than Kemba has. Both Knight and Kemba have spent almost all their time in two point guard offenses (Stuckey for Knight and Augustin/Sessions for Kemba). Kemba was a better passer last year despite playing less minutes, although I would say Knight was overall better due to being a more effecient scorer (but still below average). And now this year, Kemba is significantly outplaying Knight in general.

Nothing either has shown has given them an "advantage" of developing into a pass-first point.

I don't spend time watching CHA play, so I haven't seen him much this year, but the times I have seen him, he didn't look any more pass-first this year then any other time I've seen him, when he reminded me of Bynum, which he still does.

I have watched Knight play every game this year though, and he clearly has been a pass-first PG this year. So thats what I'm basing my opinion on.

If you want to look at stats. Kemba takes 16 FGA/gm and avg 5 asts. Knight takes 11 FGA/gm and avg 7 asts. I'm not sure what you are basing your opinion on, but it can't be the stats, as they clearly show Knight being more pass-first.

Looking at the stats of both this year, I don't see at all how he is "significantly outplaying Knight in general". He's got advantages in a couple areas, and Knight has advantages in a couple areas, because they have different games. Kemba being a shoot-first PG, and Knight being more pass-first. idk how you can look at Knight avg 7 asts and only taking 11 FGA's a game and not say he's showing the ability to be a pass-first PG. Forget the stats, just watch him play this year and he clearly is playing pass-first basketball. You hate him so much its preventing you from seeing it maybe.

[Scout Taron]

Meh. It's hard to call Knight a pass-first PG when he barely runs the offense

[Mr Peanut]

Well you said, that his point about Kemba was legitimate until he said that Knight was better than Sessions. So clearly, Sessions' ability is very important to this discussion in your eyes, as it validates or devalidates his point.

But yeah, Sessions has never had a season as bad as Knight had last year. He's definitely better.

You mean the season where Knight made the All-Rookie First Team?

[Scout Taron]

Well you said, that his point about Kemba was legitimate until he said that Knight was better than Sessions. So clearly, Sessions' ability is very important to this discussion in your eyes, as it validates or devalidates his point.

But yeah, Sessions has never had a season as bad as Knight had last year. He's definitely better.

You mean the season where Knight made the All-Rookie First Team?

lol. Having the 7th best rookie year (which is questionable) in a terrible draft class must mean he is a great player. Of course.

[Blkbrd671]

You make it seem as if sessions is a great player

[KembaWalker]

You make it seem as if sessions is a great player

16/3.5/4.6 in 27 minutes 20.7 PER

[DetroitDon15]

Kemba is playing well but he is an undersized 2 and not a true PG. I'm holding out on this discussion till after another year or two.

[Scout Taron]

Kemba is playing well but he is an undersized 2 and not a true PG. I'm holding out on this discussion till after another year or two.

So, Kemba is at his best when playing off the ball? That doesn't sound like him

[Scout Taron]

You make it seem as if sessions is a great player

So far on the year, he has. But over his career, he's been solid and conducive to winning

[Mr. Krabs]

They are both extremely bad for a starting PG, not much difference besides that.