Around the NBA part 3

Pharmcat · Post #1281 » by **Pharmcat** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:33 pm

21shumpshumpst wrote:So regular season games > than playoff performances? Ok duly noted.

appparently?

DeenNY31 · Post #1282 » by **DeenNY31** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:37 pm

j4remi wrote:
Galloisdaman wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:
he is not a robin...but can he be a #3 option? oh yea no doubt

Yet he is the best player on a team that has similar record as the Knicks in a much tougher conference.

How many teams have a #3 player that averages 17ppg and is 10th in the league in made free throws?

Your bashing of Gallo doesn't help Melo or the Knicks in anyway.

That's nice if you conveniently ignore the injuries the Knicks have dealt with. He's good, not great and I feel like Faried/Lawson are as important as Gallo if not more.

Faried is important yes but he can't create his own shot and is often benched at the end of the games due to being an offensive liability and a liability from the line

And Lawson has been even more streaky and inconsistent than gallo
He often has games where he doesn't show up, like last night (half his points came on free throws when the game was over) when he got abused by Lin

Galloisdaman · Post #1283 » by **Galloisdaman** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:39 pm

j4remi wrote:
Galloisdaman wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:
he is not a robin...but can he be a #3 option? oh yea no doubt

Yet he is the best player on a team that has similar record as the Knicks in a much tougher conference.

How many teams have a #3 player that averages 17ppg and is 10th in the league in made free throws?

Your bashing of Gallo doesn't help Melo or the Knicks in anyway.

That's nice if you conveniently ignore the injuries the Knicks have dealt with. He's good, not great and I feel like Faried/Lawson are as important as Gallo if not more.

Faried is important. So is Ty but neither one is as important as Gallo. Ty actually has been very inefficient and horrible on defense all season. Faried has been great. Teams have injuries. The Knicks best part of the season was with the injuries to Amare and Iman not the last month. Nice excuse.

Quick Kick · Post #1284 » by **Quick Kick** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:40 pm

Galloisdaman wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:
he is not a robin...but can he be a #3 option? oh yea no doubt

Yet he is the best player on a team that has similar record as the Knicks in a much tougher conference.

How many teams have a #3 player that averages 17ppg and is 10th in the league in made free throws?

Your bashing of Gallo doesn't help Melo or the Knicks in anyway.

the problem with Gallo is we've been down this road before.

He'll be hot for a week or two then completely disappear for the next week. He is the posterboy for inconsistency.

You say teams win titles, not individual players....which is true. But besides the 04 Pistons, every team in NBA history that has won a title had at least one bonafied superstar that could carry the team in its most desperate hour. Gallo is not that guy. Ironically, Denvers roster as constructed could make the Finals this year if Melo was added to that team. The one thing they lack is an alpha killer and theyte still searching for someone to replace Melos elite talent.

Galloisdaman · Post #1285 » by **Galloisdaman** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:41 pm

Pharmcat wrote:
yep ive always maintained lawson has been their engine

Spoken like a Gallo hater who doesnt watch Nuggets games. Ty has been not only inefficient but horrible on defense.

Galloisdaman · Post #1286 » by **Galloisdaman** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:44 pm

21shumpshumpst wrote:Best player? These guys (Denver fans think otherwise).
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1224286

But I am sure they are bias and you are not at all with a username of Galloisdaman.

You posted a link from a month ago where a few people said Gallo and a few people did not. That is hardly a consensus. That forum is dead. I may be biased but I also watch every game. Do you? If you did you would know that Ty is horrible on defense and that Gallo has been the best player along with Faried.

Leaguepass · Post #1287 » by **Leaguepass** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:45 pm

IMO there is a big difference between Chicago and our Knicks....the Bulls have a team full of solid basketball IQ guys, that defend,play withing themselves and know and accept their roles. We have a bunch of guys (Felton,Smith,at times Melo) that can go into chuck mode easily and just hoist up shot after shot. You can bet on Hinrich,Deng,Noah,Gibson playing terrific defense every single night. With us you just don't know...even Chandler has been careless on defense at times....I absolutely HATE to admit it but the Bulls with a healthy Rose must be clear favorites. In the beginning of the season I was pretty upbeat about our chances to take down everybody but Miami but our recent bad play,bad defense,bad offense and dumb play and chuckfest have made me pretty pessimistic.

Pharmcat · Post #1288 » by **Pharmcat** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:46 pm

Galloisdaman wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:
Galloisdaman wrote:Gallo started the season injured and it showed in his first month numbers. Since then he has averaged around 18-19 ppg. He is 24. Give the kid a break. Your hatred is not logical. This is a team game. Guys shouldn't be carrying teams. Teams win not individuals. If you watched last nights game Gallo was interviewed as the star of the game. Every time the interviewer made a big deal about Gallo as a individual all Gallo did was talk about the team not himself. As far as this nonsense goes that he is only a role player because he is at 17ppg how many hall of famers averaged 18ppg or less for their careers??? I can think of several off the top of my head starting with Clyde, James Worthy and Reggie Miller. Then there is Kevin Mchale and Chris Mullin. Gallo is the leading scorer on a team that has almost the same record as the Knicks despite having a horrible road schedule to start the season and playing in a much tougher conference.

no 1 hating, just stating opinions

btw, his flopping cost his team a PO game last year against the lakers, when his team was forced to play 4 on 5 in two critical situations

Do you only remember plays that do not go his way? I see you did not mention his 4 blocks last night. If you like I can make a list of many more plays that won games for the Nuggets. He has had several game winners this season alone. Maybe you feel as long as you are bashing Gallo for last years playoffs you can take your mind off the 1-8 playoff record Melo has had as a Knick.

oh yea, at least melo lead ny to the POs, gallo lead ny to the lotto

DeenNY31 · Post #1289 » by **DeenNY31** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:46 pm

Anyone who thinks Lawson is the nuggets' best player doesn't know what they're talking about and is just talking out of their a$$

Galloisdaman · Post #1290 » by **Galloisdaman** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:46 pm

Quick Kick wrote:
Galloisdaman wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:
he is not a robin...but can he be a #3 option? oh yea no doubt

Yet he is the best player on a team that has similar record as the Knicks in a much tougher conference.

How many teams have a #3 player that averages 17ppg and is 10th in the league in made free throws?

Your bashing of Gallo doesn't help Melo or the Knicks in anyway.

the problem with Gallo is we've been down this road before.

He'll be hot for a week or two then completely disappear for the next week. He is the posterboy for inconsistency.

You say teams win titles, not individual players....which is true. But besides the 04 Pistons, every team in NBA history that has won a title had at least one bonafied superstar that could carry the team in its most desperate hour. Gallo is not that guy. Ironically, Denvers roster as constructed could make the Finals this year if Melo was added to that team. The one thing they lack is an alpha killer and theyte still searching for someone to replace Melos elite talent.

Sorry you are making it clear you do not watch the Nuggets games. The Knicks roster has a lot more talent overall. The Nuggets do not have a Tyson Chandler. How many playoff games has Melo the superstar won as a Knick? How many has he lost. Gallo looks to be a team player not to be a hero at the rest of the teams expense.

Post #1291 » by **j4remi** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:47 pm

Galloisdaman wrote:
Faried is important. So is Ty but neither one is as important as Gallo. Ty actually has been very inefficient and horrible on defense all season. Faried has been great. Teams have injuries. The Knicks best part of the season was with the injuries to Amare and Iman not the last month. Nice excuse.

Call it an excuse then take a look at their record when Felton is in the line up compared to out of it and explain to me how there's not a relevant correlation to be drawn.

As far as Gallo vs Ty and Faried. They're a high motor team and Ty Lawson/Faried play huge roles in that. Gallo is key when they slow down to the half court for sure but I think the identity of the team is based more around Ty and Faried. Ty has definitely regressed though, he was hands down the best player last year...he was pretty awesome.

Galloisdaman · Post #1292 » by **Galloisdaman** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:48 pm

Pharmcat wrote:oh yea, at least melo lead ny to the POs, gallo lead ny to the lotto

Actually the Knicks record in the season of the trade was better with Gallo then with Melo. Your spin of a 1-8 playoff record is a fail.

Galloisdaman · Post #1293 » by **Galloisdaman** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:50 pm

j4remi wrote:
Galloisdaman wrote:
Faried is important. So is Ty but neither one is as important as Gallo. Ty actually has been very inefficient and horrible on defense all season. Faried has been great. Teams have injuries. The Knicks best part of the season was with the injuries to Amare and Iman not the last month. Nice excuse.

Call it an excuse then take a look at their record when Felton is in the line up compared to out of it and explain to me how there's not a relevant correlation to be drawn.

As far as Gallo vs Ty and Faried. They're a high motor team and Ty Lawson/Faried play huge roles in that. Gallo is key when they slow down to the half court for sure but I think the identity of the team is based more around Ty and Faried. Ty has definitely regressed though, he was hands down the best player last year...he was pretty awesome.

You are right about Ty regressing this year but Gallo gets points in both the full court and half court. Gallo has already taken defensive rebounds coast to coast for dunks multiple times this season.

Quick Kick · Post #1294 » by **Quick Kick** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:50 pm

Galloisdaman wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:oh yea, at least melo lead ny to the POs, gallo lead ny to the lotto

Actually the Knicks record in the season of the trade was better with Gallo then with Melo. Your spin of a 1-8 playoff record is a fail.

lies.

Amare and Billips were hurt in the first series and we had no backcourt against Miami. If youre gonna keep repeating that 1-8 bullshyt, dont be disingenuous about it.

Galloisdaman · Post #1295 » by **Galloisdaman** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:51 pm

DeenNY31 wrote:Anyone who thinks Lawson is the nuggets' best player doesn't know what they're talking about and is just talking out of their a$$

They just make it clear that they do not watch the Nuggets often. If Ty was a Knick they would be yelling that he makes Amare look like Bill Russell. His defense is that bad.

21shumpshumpst · Post #1296 » by **21shumpshumpst** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:52 pm

Galloisdaman wrote:
j4remi wrote:
Galloisdaman wrote:
Faried is important. So is Ty but neither one is as important as Gallo. Ty actually has been very inefficient and horrible on defense all season. Faried has been great. Teams have injuries. The Knicks best part of the season was with the injuries to Amare and Iman not the last month. Nice excuse.

Call it an excuse then take a look at their record when Felton is in the line up compared to out of it and explain to me how there's not a relevant correlation to be drawn.

As far as Gallo vs Ty and Faried. They're a high motor team and Ty Lawson/Faried play huge roles in that. Gallo is key when they slow down to the half court for sure but I think the identity of the team is based more around Ty and Faried. Ty has definitely regressed though, he was hands down the best player last year...he was pretty awesome.

You are right about Ty regressing this year but Gallo gets points in both the full court and half court. Gallo has already taken defensive rebounds coast to coast for dunks multiple times this season.

Why is anyone debating with this guy? Look at his username. Just point and laugh and move on like I did.

I mean the guy is defending a role player. A ROLE PLAYER!!!!! :lol:

Galloisdaman · Post #1297 » by **Galloisdaman** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:53 pm

Quick Kick wrote:
Galloisdaman wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:oh yea, at least melo lead ny to the POs, gallo lead ny to the lotto

Actually the Knicks record in the season of the trade was better with Gallo then with Melo. Your spin of a 1-8 playoff record is a fail.

lies.

Amare and Billips were hurt in the first series and we had no backcourt against Miami. If youre gonna keep repeating that 1-8 bullshyt, dont be disingenuous about it.

I'm lying?

The Knicks record in the 2010-2011 season was not better with Gallo then Melo?

The Knicks have not gone 1-8 in the playoffs with Melo?

Okay if you say so.

Post #1298 » by **j4remi** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:54 pm

Galloisdaman wrote:
j4remi wrote:
Galloisdaman wrote:
Faried is important. So is Ty but neither one is as important as Gallo. Ty actually has been very inefficient and horrible on defense all season. Faried has been great. Teams have injuries. The Knicks best part of the season was with the injuries to Amare and Iman not the last month. Nice excuse.

Call it an excuse then take a look at their record when Felton is in the line up compared to out of it and explain to me how there's not a relevant correlation to be drawn.

As far as Gallo vs Ty and Faried. They're a high motor team and Ty Lawson/Faried play huge roles in that. Gallo is key when they slow down to the half court for sure but I think the identity of the team is based more around Ty and Faried. Ty has definitely regressed though, he was hands down the best player last year...he was pretty awesome.

You are right about Ty regressing this year but Gallo gets points in both the full court and half court. Gallo has already taken defensive rebounds coast to coast for dunks multiple times this season.

Make no mistake, I'm not saying Gallo is bad. He's their most reliable for the last couple of months or so and he's had some great games...but I think that after last season, they made the move for Iguodala and built the roster with the idea that Ty would be the leader and the team looks incredible when he's hot. I don't think the team will go as far as Gallo takes them (though he'll be a key contributor), I think they'll go as far as Ty Lawson takes them because he's in a position to be the engine.

Galloisdaman · Post #1299 » by **Galloisdaman** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:55 pm

21shumpshumpst wrote:
Why is anyone debating with this guy? Look at his username. Just point and laugh and move on like I did.

I mean the guy is defending a role player. A ROLE PLAYER!!!!!

Anyone that has to resort to personal insults when faced with facts is the actual loser.

21shumpshumpst · Post #1300 » by **21shumpshumpst** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:58 pm

Galloisdaman wrote:
21shumpshumpst wrote:
Why is anyone debating with this guy? Look at his username. Just point and laugh and move on like I did.

I mean the guy is defending a role player. A ROLE PLAYER!!!!!

Anyone that has to resort to personal insults when faced with facts is the actual loser.

Playoff appeances as Knicks
Tony Douglas 1
Gallo 0
Tony Douglas > Gallo. Are those not facts? Omg this kid is too easy. :lol: