Trade Rumor: Gordon for Humphries

[Eoghan]

Bwahahaha! Mike Dunlap, is that you? Are you a fan of these idiotic 4-guard line-ups we trot out there? How would this possibly make us worse? You need some basketball fundamentals books if you think that addressing our massive, gaping hole of rebounding and defense at the expense of a guy we got for Bad Porn and a 1st rd pick will make us worse. Kemba, Hendo (now with a 3 pt shot), Sessions, Taylor, and even Reggie Williams can all cover most of Gordon's production and they'll get much better looks and not have to rely on circus shots as much (Gordon's specialty) b/c defenses will actually have to guard the paint.

You know why the Nets can trade Humphries? Because he can't break past Reggie Evans and Andray Blatche in the depth chart. Evans has more toes than points scored in his career. And Blatche is such an incredible player the Wizards amnestied him... the WIZARDS!! Being amnestied by the Wizards is like not making the cut in the spelling bee contest where the other contestants are zoo animals. And Humphries is behind that crew in the Nets line up.

Yes we need better front court players but to tie up 12 million per year in a guy that can't push aside Reggie Evans and Blatche? You've got to be kidding me.

He's paid less than Gordon, we'd save money on this deal. Blatche would be a top PF in the league if he wasn't a knucklehead but Washington was knucklehead capital of the NBA and now Blatche has to cut his crap out or he'll be out of a job. The only reason Reggie Evans plays more is b/c he fits PJ Carlesimo's ideal mold for a PF. Your grasp of context is sorely lacking.

[Eoghan]

Apparently Philly is shopping Evan Turner. Any interest?

I loved his game in college but I'm worried about his play in the NBA. Maybe Doug Collins is doing his best LB impression and stunting his growth or maybe he is too slowand shoots too poorly to play the wing.

[JMAC3]

Apparently Philly is shopping Evan Turner. Any interest?

I loved his game in college but I'm worried about his play in the NBA. Maybe Doug Collins is doing his best LB impression and stunting his growth or maybe he is too slowand shoots too poorly to play the wing.

MKG and him are too much in the same.

[catch20two]

I wouldn't mind acquiring Evan Turner but he's one of the most streakiest players in the NBA when it come to consistency. I guess the question is how much would the Sixers want in exchange for Turner? Probably more than we'd want to offer. Philly is just trying to dope somebody into trading them a 1st rounder since Miami will have their's if they miss the playoffs this year, which is beginning to look more and more likely.

[Nanogeek]

He's paid less than Gordon, we'd save money on this deal. Blatche would be a top PF in the league if he wasn't a knucklehead but Washington was knucklehead capital of the NBA and now Blatche has to cut his crap out or he'll be out of a job.

And yet Humphries can get ahead of him in the rotation.

The only reason Reggie Evans plays more is b/c he fits PJ Carlesimo's ideal mold for a PF. Your grasp of context is sorely lacking.

Evans is so good he managed to get paid essentially the vet min and yet Humphries (who is being sold on this board as a rebound fanatic) can't get ahead of Evans in the rotation.

If Humphries was making half his salary then sure - lets trade for him. But if I'm going to overpay for someone then I'll overpay for someone who can shoot the ball since that is a rarity on this team. We've got guys that have a TRB% of 15.5% and 14.7% and they make a fraction what Humphries makes. Humphries has a TRB% of 19% but earns $12 million per year. Your grasp of basketball and math is sorely lacking. I'd rather Jordan allocate 20% of our cap space in a single player in a better way than someone that is going to get us just 4% more TRB than what we currently have and score less (Mullens) or defend less (Biyombo) than what we have now.

[Nanogeek]

Humphries contract ends when Gordons done, so that in itself is a wash. He would also help this team immensely as far as rebounding goes, and would fit a need unlike Gordon.

Not sure how someone couldn't like this deal.

Humphries is only a 4% improvement in TRB over Mullens or Biyombo. No need to spend $12 million for that paltry improvement while also losing scoring/defense by replacing one of those guys with Humphries and losing Gordon's scoring. Not sure how someone could like this deal.

[JMAC3]

I understand where you are coming from, but it is not like Ben Gordon has that much value. Detroit had to throw in a future first rounder just for us to take him and all they got was Maggette. I think both players would excel in their new environments. Humphries is just a better basketball player then Warrick, Adrien, and Tyrus.

I could see him starting at the 4 and playing 30 minutes a night, averaging close to a double double. To me that is worth getting rid of Gordon, who shows up on occasion for a big game, but hardly ever is the reason we win. We can easily let MKG, Taylor, Sessions, and Hendo absorb the minutes we are losing from Gordon. Where as Humphries will absorb TT, Adrien, Warrick, and Haywoods minutes.

[thruthefire]

Since when did a four percent increase in total rebound percentage become insignificant? My goodness.

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Mullens being a better offensive player than Hump is also very misguided.

[MasterIchiro]

Fast forward to next year and Humphries is worth far more than Gordon as an expiring. Humphries will be a starter, big man averaging a double double and sitting atop the leaderboard for rebounds. Gordon will be a sixth man.

The value difference is why the trade is not done yet.

[thruthefire]

22 rebounds (11 offensive) for Lavoy Allen tonight.

[ccbballin]

Dont understand or really care for the trade aside from the rebounding KHump brings. BG looking like a PG as of late with the slick passing.

Humphries seems like a bit of a redneck he'd probably fit in well in Charlotte. Well maybe not Charlotte but Gastonia or Concord.
Would Dunlap play him though he seems to be stuck in a certain rotation? TT and Warrick muct be in the doghouse. They never get to play anymore.

[SWedd523]

Humphries is probably as close to being the opposite of a redneck as you can get

[Eoghan]

Humphries contract ends when Gordons done, so that in itself is a wash. He would also help this team immensely as far as rebounding goes, and would fit a need unlike Gordon.

Not sure how someone couldn't like this deal.

Humphries is only a 4% improvement in TRB over Mullens or Biyombo. No need to spend $12 million for that paltry improvement while also losing scoring/defense by replacing one of those guys with Humphries and losing Gordon's scoring. Not sure how someone could like this deal.

Lol, you think we'd lose defense in this trade. Ben Gordon and defense in the same paragraph, hilarious.

[Liver_Pooty]

Dont understand or really care for the trade aside from the rebounding KHump brings. BG looking like a PG as of late with the slick passing.

Humphries seems like a bit of a redneck he'd probably fit in well in Charlotte. Well maybe not Charlotte but Gastonia or Concord.
Would Dunlap play him though he seems to be stuck in a certain rotation? TT and Warrick muct be in the doghouse. They never get to play anymore.

Uh?

[Nanogeek]

Humphries contract ends when Gordons done, so that in itself is a wash. He would also help this team immensely as far as rebounding goes, and would fit a need unlike Gordon.

Not sure how someone couldn't like this deal.

Humphries is only a 4% improvement in TRB over Mullens or Biyombo. No need to spend $12 million for that paltry improvement while also losing scoring/defense by replacing one of those guys with Humphries and losing Gordon's scoring. Not sure how someone could like this deal.

Lol, you think we'd lose defense in this trade. Ben Gordon and defense in the same paragraph, hilarious.

I can't figure out whether you are being silly or you are just really that dumb. Do you actually think Gordon and Humphries play the same position? We'd lose defense if Humphries replaced Biyombo in the line-up. If you'd managed to read BOTH of the first two sentences you might have been able to piece that brain teaser together for yourself.

[BigSlam]

keep it civil please. no need for name calling.

[BobsBuddy]

I have been a BIG fan of bring Humphries to Charlotte for Months. In fact
I have put out 3 different trade checker Ideas to get him here.. Trade checker 6232740 gets it done and is a winner for both teams. And if we don't seem to be close to an extension with Hendo throw him in for Brooks. Both Brooks and Hump will be allot more productive with Cats and will make up for loss of points trading Gordon and Hendo.I see Brooks coming off Bench for 8-10 points and Hump increasing our paint points by 12-14 and boards by 6-8 every night whether he starts or not.

I agree with JMac3 that if one of these trades go down to Nets then another will follow shortly because we will have too many 4's. also still allot of guards? What/Who/Where NEXT only Cho knows.

[MasterIchiro]

Bobsbuddy,

Which 4 do you think is most likely to be dealt? I figure even though there's a logjam at PF you can use Biyombo as a backup at PF and at C. Same for Mullens. And Tyrus Thomas is unmovable. Adrien and Warrick will expire worthless.

What I want to see is a move for Danny Granger. Like Humphries, he will be a valuable expiring next year and since the commitment to Granger would be equally short, his temporary presence would not impede the long-term development of MKG. MKG is playing backup minutes anyways. One more season of backup minutes could benefit his progress.

We need a star here.

[Eoghan]

I can't figure out whether you are being silly or you are just really that dumb. Do you actually think Gordon and Humphries play the same position? We'd lose defense if Humphries replaced Biyombo in the line-up. If you'd managed to read BOTH of the first two sentences you might have been able to piece that brain teaser together for yourself.

Can't I be both? Is there a word for that? Dilly? Sumb? Dusillymb?

Why would Hump replace Biyombo in the line-up? Hump plays 4, Biz plays 5. Hump would probably come off the bench for Mully, the only reason Mully would start over him is b/c he has better range which spaces the floor for MKG, Hendo and Kemba. Sessions, Taylor, Williams, Hump and Driftwood is a better bench than Sessions, Gordon, Taylor, (insert any tire fire of a bench PF here) and Driftwood.

Besides, I'm starting to agree with ohara that this won't be the only trade Cho makes at the deadline. With better players being shopped around now, I could definitely see us getting in on a three way.

[MasterIchiro]

Bad news for fans of this proposal. The Nets are moving on Josh Smith and since they would need Humphries in a deal with ATL it would kill the Bobcats deal.

One silver lining is the Nets may need a third team for Josh Smith because the asking price is too steep for them. I'm not sure how we can leverage any advantage here but hopefully Cho can maneuver somehow and make it all work out in our favor.

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