McJesus - The Josh McRoberts Thread

Post #41 » by **fatlever** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:02 pm

OR magic send us the better player so we win more games thus increasing their chances of ping pong balls.

vorbis · Post #42 » by **vorbis** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:05 pm

fatlever wrote:or maybe the magic just really wanted to see mcroberts get the chance to compete for a job but they werent interested in playing him over developing their youngsters so they agreed to send him somewhere that he could compete for minutes. magic being nice guys and eating some salary in the process.

most sensible reason i've heard yet. but even that is a bit thin. what a weird, pointless trade for orlando, otherwise.

Elden Payton · Post #43 » by **Elden Payton** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:13 pm

Maybe Hennigan being the new kid on the block has an itchy trigger finger?

Snidely FC · Post #44 » by **Snidely FC** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:18 pm

Doesn't this also help us by freeing up the 895k diff in their salaries to our cap? We were right at cap, now we should be below it by 895k, which we can use to try 10 day contracts and free agents with our final roster spot?

Elden Payton · Post #45 » by **Elden Payton** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:19 pm

Yeah it seems this trade only benefits us and costs them 4m for the privilege.

I'm not complaining but definitely scratching my head.

BobsBuddy · Post #46 » by **BobsBuddy** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:32 pm

WOW----I'm with Fats observation Looks like Orlando by waiving Warrick instead of Mc Roberts actually looses more $. Whats Mickey Smokin? :crazy:

Maybe they need a 2013 tax writeoff? I noticed both players have the same agent?
Anyway...Dunlap likes this type of player..Hope he plays against Denver this weekend..Who knows he may end up being the post player we have been looking for to backup Byron.
We got younger by 4 years also.

Post #47 » by **fatlever** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:43 pm

Snidely FC wrote:Doesn't this also help us by freeing up the 895k diff in their salaries to our cap? We were right at cap, now we should be below it by 895k, which we can use to try 10 day contracts and free agents with our final roster spot?

i dont think cap prevents you from signing guys on minimum deals. only number that would matter in that case would be lux tax number which we are well below.

but free money is free money.

doc.end · Post #48 » by **doc.end** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:45 pm

fatlever wrote:what is orlando's motivation for trading mcroberts for warrick? they took on more money for a player that is arguably worse or at least not any better at the same exact position.

Veteran presence maybe? And there is nothing wrong with them thinking he is better fit and/or slightly better. Or they were just outsmarted or they did it for Cho being a nice guy, who knows. 8-)

Elden Payton · Post #49 » by **Elden Payton** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:49 pm

doc.end wrote:
fatlever wrote:what is orlando's motivation for trading mcroberts for warrick? they took on more money for a player that is arguably worse or at least not any better at the same exact position.

Veteran presence maybe? And there is nothing wrong with them thinking he is better fit and/or slightly better. Or they were just outsmarted or they did it for Cho being a nice guy, who knows.

But they are going to waive him!

4m for the privilege of an empty seat...wtf?

Eoghan · Post #50 » by **Eoghan** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:01 pm

I've always liked McRoberts going back to Duke. I used to criticize Coach K for stifling McRobert's development by forcing him into traditional bigman role of only getting rebounds and never leaving the paint when McBob had serious perimeter skills and athleticism. Basically, if Josh was allowed to play like Ryan Kelly than Josh would've been a much higher draft pick and college player.

Cho-allejuh, we have a big that understands ball movement. He's not a strong rebounder, he's a streaky at best shooter but he's got good size, fluidity, moves faster than a glacier, and rarely makes boneheaded plays. BBIQ in the frontcourt got a big boost.

doc.end · Post #51 » by **doc.end** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:02 pm

Sik Infant wrote:
doc.end wrote:
fatlever wrote:what is orlando's motivation for trading mcroberts for warrick? they took on more money for a player that is arguably worse or at least not any better at the same exact position.

Veteran presence maybe? And there is nothing wrong with them thinking he is better fit and/or slightly better. Or they were just outsmarted or they did it for Cho being a nice guy, who knows.

But they are going to waive him!

4m for the privilege of an empty seat...wtf?

I was yet to catch up.

Gret albeit minor trade. Worst thing to happen is he won't impress and will be let walk - that's a no issue. I wonder if Henderson being on our roster was a factor, they were on the same college team, weren't they.

Elden Payton · Post #52 » by **Elden Payton** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:08 pm

I think he has found a home.

He averaged 7/5/2 in 22mpg for the Lakers last season.

Elden Payton · Post #53 » by **Elden Payton** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:09 pm

BrotherDave wrote:I've always liked McRoberts going back to Duke. I used to criticize Coach K for stifling McRobert's development by forcing him into traditional bigman role of only getting rebounds and never leaving the paint when McBob had serious perimeter skills and athleticism. Basically, if Josh was allowed to play like Ryan Kelly than Josh would've been a much higher draft pick and college player.

Cho-allejuh, we have a big that understands ball movement. He's not a strong rebounder, he's a streaky at best shooter but he's got good size, fluidity, moves faster than a glacier, and rarely makes boneheaded plays. BBIQ in the frontcourt got a big boost.

hotrod · Post #54 » by **hotrod** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:30 pm

@stevekylerNBA: Hearing Orlando used Ryan Anderson TPE to obtain Warrick which would have expired before Magic could use it... Gain TPE from McRoberts

ohara · Post #55 » by **ohara** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:12 pm

Just fine with this trade. Think he is a slight upgrade, a couple years younger, and saves us a few hundred thousand. Not complaining at all.

Post #56 » by **BigSlam** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:27 pm

GREAT!!!

So we traded for the white vesion of Tyrus Thomas!!

:lol:

Eoghan · Post #57 » by **Eoghan** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:04 am

BigSlam wrote:GREAT!!!

So we traded for the white vesion of Tyrus Thomas!!

Not really, gentle spring breezes won't knock McBob over.

HornetJail · Post #58 » by **HornetJail** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:34 am

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1235274

Decided to ask Magic fans what they thought about McBob. Answers ranged from horrible to Matt Barnes-esque. It seems to me that he is essentially what Warrick was to us, only stronger, sets picks, takes more threes.

Not the kind of player I want getting minutes. Pretty much sounds like Adrien with most of Tyrus's and Mullens's quirks.

Eoghan · Post #59 » by **Eoghan** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:37 am

Yeah, he hovers around Adrien in terms of productivity. I will say that a motivated McBob is a better player than Adrien but he certainly won't be any worse than Warrick.

Post #60 » by **Walt Cronkite** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:44 am

I liked both Adrien and McBobs in college and think they're both worth more of a shot than Warrick. Not an exciting trade, but we're staying the course and building the team the right way.