2013 Sleepers

[ManualRam]

I'm not a big fan of him personally, but I think CJ Fair can end up in the top 20-25 picks. Seems like draft is usually kind to players like him

i like him. i think he projects to be a good role player because he can defend (with the 'cuse caveat of course), rebound for his position and can be productive without having any plays called for him. he's got a knack for sliding into open spaces, really knows how to move without the ball (esp running the baseline) has a sweet mid-range jumper with flashes of extended range. he also has the body strength and athleticism to play though contact.

[UGA Hayes]

^ Plus he has some nice craftiness around the basket and has done a good job of getting to the line from what I have seen. Amazingly consistent too. His per minute numbers are almost identical in all three years of college.

[UGA Hayes]

^ Plus he has some nice craftiness around the basket and has done a good job of getting to the line from what I have seen. Amazingly consistent too. His per minute numbers are almost identical in all three years of college.

[jman3134]

I'm not a big fan of him personally, but I think CJ Fair can end up in the top 20-25 picks. Seems like draft is usually kind to players like him

You mean small forwards who can't shoot?

[ManualRam]

I'm not a big fan of him personally, but I think CJ Fair can end up in the top 20-25 picks. Seems like draft is usually kind to players like him

You mean small forwards who can't shoot?

fair can't shoot?

[jman3134]

I'm not a big fan of him personally, but I think CJ Fair can end up in the top 20-25 picks. Seems like draft is usually kind to players like him

You mean small forwards who can't shoot?

fair can't shoot?

That's truly amazing and a first. I've seen him play like 10 times this season and his three point shooting has always been off (in each game). I was expecting significant improvements in the preseason in this respect. Apparently he's shooting 40%! I'm shocked. Still, not sure 1.2 attempts per game is a large enough sample size to conclude that he will be able to stretch teams at the next level. What do you think?

[ManualRam]

You mean small forwards who can't shoot?

fair can't shoot?

That's truly amazing and a first. I've seen him play like 10 times this season and his three point shooting has always been off (in each game). I was expecting significant improvements in the preseason in this respect. Apparently he's shooting 40%! I'm shocked. Still, not sure 1.2 attempts per game is a large enough sample size to conclude that he will be able to stretch teams at the next level. What do you think?

i wouldn't consider him a non-shooter. he has a nice stroke, with touch and an easy motion. he's more of a mid-range shooter at this point than a shooter from all distances, but he's obviously made an effort to expand his range. 83% from the line is a good indication of how good his stroke is too. i wouldn't rule out him ever developing NBA 3 pt range. until then i could see him being utilized as a baseline runner a la ronnie brewer. as i mentioned, he's really good at flashing into open spaces for his jumper and floaters so he could also be used coming off of tight curls and flex cuts.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Victor Oladipo for me. He's got a ton of ability. He plays the game with an energy similar to a Russell Westbrook. Obviously, Oladipo is a pure SG/SF through and through, but just the way he plays reminds me of Westbrook.

[ManualRam]

Victor Oladipo for me. He's got a ton of ability. He plays the game with an energy similar to a Russell Westbrook. Obviously, Oladipo is a pure SG/SF through and through, but just the way he plays reminds me of Westbrook.

DX just moved him to #9 in the 2013 draft.
he's bypassed sleeper status i think.

[Dr Positivity]

He's also 10th on ESPN. Oladipo is a sleeper... to go top 5

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Well, I guess I wasn't the only one watching the Indiana/Ohio St. game yesterday lol.

[jman3134]

i wouldn't consider him a non-shooter. he has a nice stroke, with touch and an easy motion. he's more of a mid-range shooter at this point than a shooter from all distances, but he's obviously made an effort to expand his range. 83% from the line is a good indication of how good his stroke is too. i wouldn't rule out him ever developing NBA 3 pt range. until then i could see him being utilized as a baseline runner a la ronnie brewer. as i mentioned, he's really good at flashing into open spaces for his jumper and floaters so he could also be used coming off of tight curls and flex cuts.

Yeah, I'm not overly impressed with his stroke. The form is alright, although I feel like balance can be an issue at times. Yes, he is certainly better from mid range and this has historically been stronger than his 3 pter for sure.

I just don't see him being a three point threat in the league, but if Ronnie Brewer can develop a stroke, it certainly is possible. You are spot on with how he could be used at the next level. I think he will be a good man defender in the NBA in spite of the zone. He does a nice job deflecting passes.

Do you think he will still be a strong offensive rebounder at the next level? This is one of his more important strengths imo.

[jman3134]

Victor Oladipo for me. He's got a ton of ability. He plays the game with an energy similar to a Russell Westbrook. Obviously, Oladipo is a pure SG/SF through and through, but just the way he plays reminds me of Westbrook.

DX just moved him to #9 in the 2013 draft.
he's bypassed sleeper status i think.

What's funny is that they didn't even identify him as a prospect last year. They're late on a lot of prospects.

[ManualRam]

i wouldn't consider him a non-shooter. he has a nice stroke, with touch and an easy motion. he's more of a mid-range shooter at this point than a shooter from all distances, but he's obviously made an effort to expand his range. 83% from the line is a good indication of how good his stroke is too. i wouldn't rule out him ever developing NBA 3 pt range. until then i could see him being utilized as a baseline runner a la ronnie brewer. as i mentioned, he's really good at flashing into open spaces for his jumper and floaters so he could also be used coming off of tight curls and flex cuts.

Yeah, I'm not overly impressed with his stroke. The form is alright, although I feel like balance can be an issue at times. Yes, he is certainly better from mid range and this has historically been stronger than his 3 pter for sure.

I just don't see him being a three point threat in the league, but if Ronnie Brewer can develop a stroke, it certainly is possible. You are spot on with how he could be used at the next level. I think he will be a good man defender in the NBA in spite of the zone. He does a nice job deflecting passes.

Do you think he will still be a strong offensive rebounder at the next level? This is one of his more important strengths imo.

i don't see anything in his stroke that would lead me to believe that he can't improve as a shooter. his shot set up is a little long from deep, but outside of that his stroke is smooth and balanced. he goes straight up and down and he shoots a soft ball.

if he's utilized in a similar role as brewer or marion i don't see why he couldn't sneak his share of o-boards. he's a very slippery player with good athleticism and a nose for the ball.

[Ruzious]

Speaking of shooters - I probably mentioned him before in this thread, but there's got to be a place for Seth Curry in the NBA. He's not his brother, but he's got the same shooting gene. And his jab step - step back 3 is a thing of beauty, and he can create shots off the dribble - not just be a catch and shoot guy. Granted, he's got to play with a PG big enough to defend 2's, but as a 4th or 5th guard, he's a nice weapon.

[KUYJ]

I couldnt really find any tape of Mitchell but from what ive read it sounds like hes sort of a tweener. With Brandon Knight not really being a true point i was thinking Andersons playmaking would be a nice fit, but he does look slow.

[dandrews]

I kind of like CJ McCollum as a sleeper, although I'm not sure how much of a sleeper he is. I think Damian Lillard's success is going to translate into McCollum being drafted kind of high.

[Ruzious]

I kind of like CJ McCollum as a sleeper, although I'm not sure how much of a sleeper he is. I think Damian Lillard's success is going to translate into McCollum being drafted kind of high.

I think he's had a good shot at late lotto, so I wouldn't think of him as a sleeper. Good player, but I don't consider him to be the prospect that Lillard was - and I've seen people compare the 2.

[Ruzious]

Well, the best senior on Duke might not be Plumlee or Curry. It might be a guy who's not even listed as a 2nd rounder by draftexpress and is listed as the last guy in the draft by nbadraft.net - Ryan Kelly. I think he just convinced a lot of NBA folks he's a 1st round pick. 14 shots taken, 36 points against the 5th ranked team in the country can do that. He's basically a young poor man's Ryan Anderson (though Anderson was and is a much better rebounder). Very quick release on his 3's for a PF - classic face 4. And he plays tough - he's not soft like Kyle Wiltjer - who's somewhat similar physically and skill-wise. Wiltjer won't make it in the NBA, imo - while Kelly will. His quick release will make him a prolific 3 shooter in the NBA. Defensively, he's no star, but he's aware out there, and he gives a good effort. Put a little more weight on him, and get him to hit the defensive boards harder, and he comes closer to Anderson's level. If he's there for San Antonio and Miami, one of them takes him.

[EddieJonesFan]

What do you guys think of Nate Wolters?