Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic?

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Re: Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic? 

Post#281 » by Paradise » Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:03 pm

Trader_Joe wrote:
Rockice_24 wrote:
Nets own the tie breakers and probably will at seasons end, have the easier schedule (yeah they a few tough road games but overall slightly easier), Nets aren't 100% healthy but the Knicks are getting hammered right now, and the Nets best player is playing like his old self while the Knicks is getting crushed for quitting.

The only thing the Nets got going against them is being down 3 in the loss column.

The only thing?
That's kind of a big deal.

The Nets have 17 games left.

11 of those are on the road where we are a .500 team and have to face:
DAL
LAC
POR
DEN
UTA
BOS
IND
Most of those will be losses IMO.

We also have
@TOR
@CLE
@PHO
@DET


The home games are:
ATL
CHI
CHA
PHI
WAS
DET



Basically, if NY goes .500 in their 20 remaining games (10-10) we have to go 10-7.
I guess it's doable, but I don't think the odds are in our favor.


NY's schedule post road trip is just as hard.

What gives the Nets an advantage is the first three games (ATL, @DET, @DAL) are games they can steal before meeting LA, Portland, Denver, Utah which are later then Cleveland.

Knicks will have Orlando, Toronto x2, Memphis, Boston around that time.

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Re: Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic? 

Post#282 » by PetroNet » Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:27 pm

Trader_Joe wrote:
Basically, if NY goes .500 in their 20 remaining games (10-10) we have to go 10-7.
I guess it's doable, but I don't think the odds are in our favor.


i dont think the knicks will go 10-10, i see 7-13.

i dont think the nets will go 10-7, i see 11-6 or 12-5
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Re: Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic? 

Post#283 » by seren » Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:36 pm

Interesting that this thread comes back again and again. I don't think Celtics have enough to make up the difference. When it comes to Newark Nets, it is more likely they will go down to 8th spot than winning the division.
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Post#284 » by PetroNet » Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:39 pm

seren wrote:Interesting that this thread comes back again and again. I don't think Celtics have enough to make up the difference. When it comes to Newark Nets, it is more likely they will go down to 8th spot than winning the division.


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Re: Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic? 

Post#285 » by NYK_89 » Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:41 pm

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Trader_Joe wrote:
Basically, if NY goes .500 in their 20 remaining games (10-10) we have to go 10-7.
I guess it's doable, but I don't think the odds are in our favor.


i dont think the knicks will go 10-10, i see 7-13.

i dont think the nets will go 10-7, i see 11-6 or 12-5

You have like 7 games that you SHOULD lose then a bunch of other games... 12-5 11-6?.... Seriously?

The nets are not exactly immune to let downs and have actully a worse record over the last 10 games , im not going to sit here and say its impossible like some of these knicks fans but we are still a fairly heavy favorite
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Post#286 » by seren » Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:44 pm

Newark last 10 games: 5-5.

Losses to Houston, Memphis, and Dallas at home. Chicago and Philly on the road.

Certainly gives you the confidence they will go 11-6 with the remaining schedule.

NOT.
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Post#287 » by PetroNet » Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:49 pm

seren wrote:Newark last 10 games: 5-5.

Losses to Houston, Memphis, and Dallas at home. Chicago and Philly on the road.

Certainly gives you the confidence they will go 11-6 with the remaining schedule.

NOT.


well fortunetly, we very likely wont have to in order to win the division.
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Post#288 » by seren » Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:52 pm

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seren wrote:Newark last 10 games: 5-5.

Losses to Houston, Memphis, and Dallas at home. Chicago and Philly on the road.

Certainly gives you the confidence they will go 11-6 with the remaining schedule.

NOT.


well fortunetly, we very likely wont have to in order to win the division.


Both teams have the same exact number of road games. Unless your team suddenly decides to show up on the road, against western teams neverthless, this thing ain't happening.

As I said, Boston has a chance, but I doubt they have enough time.
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Re: Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic? 

Post#289 » by Trader_Joe » Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:54 pm

seren wrote:Newark last 10 games: 5-5.

Losses to Houston, Memphis, and Dallas at home. Chicago and Philly on the road.

Certainly gives you the confidence they will go 11-6 with the remaining schedule.

NOT.

BK since December 27th (when PJ was hired)... 24-13 (1-0 vs. NY)
NY over that same time span.... 17-16. (0-1 vs. BK)

I also don't think the Nets overtake the Knicks but it should be interesting with how poorly NY has been playing and their plethora of injuries.
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Post#290 » by NYK_89 » Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:54 pm

Not to mention that the Knicks still games against Tor 2x ORL CHA 2x CLE and WAS those are all very easy wins, that is 7 games alone there... that means you think we will go 0-13 against Boston twice Chicago Indiana(at MSG) Atlanta twice Trailblazers and bucks..... OKC at LA Heat and at JAZZ are probably losses but really you don't think we will win ONE of those games where we are on equal or greater footing in almost every one...
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Re: Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic? 

Post#291 » by Trader_Joe » Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:58 pm

seren wrote:
PetroNet wrote:
seren wrote:Newark last 10 games: 5-5.

Losses to Houston, Memphis, and Dallas at home. Chicago and Philly on the road.

Certainly gives you the confidence they will go 11-6 with the remaining schedule.

NOT.


well fortunetly, we very likely wont have to in order to win the division.


Both teams have the same exact number of road games. Unless your team suddenly decides to show up on the road, against western teams neverthless, this thing ain't happening.

As I said, Boston has a chance, but I doubt they have enough time.

Fortunately we have a winning record on the road.. same as you..... 16-14.
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Re: Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic? 

Post#292 » by NYK_89 » Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:58 pm

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seren wrote:Newark last 10 games: 5-5.

Losses to Houston, Memphis, and Dallas at home. Chicago and Philly on the road.

Certainly gives you the confidence they will go 11-6 with the remaining schedule.

NOT.

BK since December 27th (when PJ was hired)... 24-13 (1-0 vs. NY)
NY over that same time span.... 17-16. (0-1 vs. BK)

I also don't think the Nets overtake the Knicks but it should be interesting with how poorly NY has been playing and their plethora of injuries.

Yeah but after the "new coach afterglow" ran out you are 12-10 (Knicks 11-9 over same time period) I don't see a reason to without bias predict the Nets to go 11-6 and the knicks to not win a single game against any play off team from here on out while only beating the low lottery teams for their 6 wins...
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Re: Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic? 

Post#293 » by Inevitable » Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:59 pm

NYK_89 wrote:Not to mention that the Knicks still games against Tor 2x


Raptors have played NY tough this year, winning 2-0. Don't know how they will be easy wins.
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Post#294 » by NYK_89 » Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:00 pm

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NYK_89 wrote:Not to mention that the Knicks still games against Tor 2x


Raptors have played NY tough this year, winning 2-0. Don't know how they will be easy wins.

We played them at the one time they were hot this year and we were playing like garbage. The knicks are extremely heavy favorites in that game like it or not.
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Re: Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic? 

Post#295 » by seren » Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:02 pm

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seren wrote:Newark last 10 games: 5-5.

Losses to Houston, Memphis, and Dallas at home. Chicago and Philly on the road.

Certainly gives you the confidence they will go 11-6 with the remaining schedule.

NOT.

BK since December 27th (when PJ was hired)... 24-13 (1-0 vs. NY)
NY over that same time span.... 17-16. (0-1 vs. BK)

I also don't think the Nets overtake the Knicks but it should be interesting with how poorly NY has been playing and their plethora of injuries.


We did these "SINCE" stuff for a while. You guys have been playing .500 ball recently. Not any better than the Knicks. Last ten games Knicks:6-4, Nets: 5-5.
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Re: Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic? 

Post#296 » by Trader_Joe » Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:02 pm

NYK_89 wrote:Yeah but after the "new coach afterglow" ran out you are 12-10 (Knicks 11-9 over same time period) I don't see a reason to without bias predict the Nets to go 11-6 and the knicks to not win a single game against any play off team from here on out while only beating the low lottery teams for their 6 wins...

Neither do I .. which is why I have said many times in this thread and I think another one today, I don't the Nets do catch up but I think it will be close.
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Re: Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic? 

Post#297 » by Trader_Joe » Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:04 pm

seren wrote:We did these "SINCE" stuff for a while. You guys have been playing .500 ball recently. Not any better than the Knicks. Last ten games Knicks:6-4, Nets: 5-5.

This is fun....

Nets: 4-1 in last 5 (since PJ announced he was tightening his rotation and playing Teletovic more)
Knicks: 2-3 in last 5 with the last 2 blowouts
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Re: Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic? 

Post#298 » by NYK_89 » Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:05 pm

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NYK_89 wrote:Yeah but after the "new coach afterglow" ran out you are 12-10 (Knicks 11-9 over same time period) I don't see a reason to without bias predict the Nets to go 11-6 and the knicks to not win a single game against any play off team from here on out while only beating the low lottery teams for their 6 wins...

Neither do I .. which is why I have said many times in this thread and I think another one today, I don't the Nets do catch up but I think it will be close.

Yeah was more responding to Petros claims which i am not too stupid to take seriously but anyways...

This will be a fun race and i could totally see the nets winning on even ground from here on out be we aren't on even ground, dunno unless we somehow match up in the first round i will be rooting for you guys anyways it just seems a little absurd to bump this thing every few days like as if the gap is shrinking by the day when in reality i believe the Knicks have picked up ground in the Atlantic over the last month :lol:
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Re: Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic? 

Post#299 » by seren » Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:06 pm

Trader_Joe wrote:
seren wrote:We did these "SINCE" stuff for a while. You guys have been playing .500 ball recently. Not any better than the Knicks. Last ten games Knicks:6-4, Nets: 5-5.

This is fun....

Nets: 4-1 in last 5
Knicks: 2-3 in last 5 with the last 2 blowouts


Well exactly my point.

Fact is both team blows right now and results will heavily depend on who the opponent is. Nets' schedule is not easier enough to make up 3 extra losses. That is all I am saying.

Now Boston might make a play for it, but I don't think they are making up 5 losses either.
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Re: Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic? 

Post#300 » by NYK_89 » Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:08 pm

Trader_Joe wrote:
seren wrote:We did these "SINCE" stuff for a while. You guys have been playing .500 ball recently. Not any better than the Knicks. Last ten games Knicks:6-4, Nets: 5-5.

This is fun....

Nets: 4-1 in last 5 (since PJ announced he was tightening his rotation and playing Teletovic more)
Knicks: 2-3 in last 5 with the last 2 blowouts

Are we really bragging about wins over the Hornets Wizards Hawks and Bobcats and attributing them to the shortening of the rotation.... Anything less then 4-1 in your last 5 would have been terrible.

Although they were awful in the last 2 games their last losses are blown games against the Thunder and Heat and blowouts against the Nuggets who have won 10 in a row and the Warriors who are a 6 seed in the west..

You guys act like it wasn't all doom and gloom for us about a month ago and we raked off a 6-2 stretch with losses in very very close games to the Heat and Thunder. And yes those losses to the Raptors twice Clippers and Indiana were just as concerning as this stretch..

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