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Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0

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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#521 » by Dat2U » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:32 pm

Well his shooting mechanics are looking much better now. That's the key. Of course he's not keeping up the last 4 game stretch but no one right now gets more open quality looks than John Wall. If he's got open looks, he should make a very respectable % and once defenses really have to start respecting his jumper, he's getting to the rim and finishing at a solid rate plus drawing fouls.

The jump shot is everything. It's why his floor was once mentioned as Derrick Rose. He could potentially be a very efficient player, because there's not one person in the league that can stay in front of him if they aren't cheating off him. I think his attempts at the rim are slightly down because the lane is just so packed. The way he had been shooting, the times he's had to play without Beal, the plodding old school front court of Okafor/Nene... there's really been no room to drive.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#522 » by tontoz » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:57 pm

Nivek wrote:I take a look at Wall's transcendent week over at the blog, as well as update PPA for the full team. Wall's PPA went from 92 to 119 since the last update. Over the past 5 games, his PPA is 308. This year's leader for the season is Lebron: 271.



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NBA player of the week would be a nice feather in his cap. I can't imagine anyone would deserve it over him.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#523 » by Nivek » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:40 pm

John Wall -- Eastern Conference Player of the Week.

First Wizards player to win the honor since Antawn Jamison. In 2008.

Wall earned it.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#524 » by GhostsOfGil » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:45 pm

Nivek wrote:John Wall -- Eastern Conference Player of the Week.

First Wizards player to win the honor since Antawn Jamison. In 2008.

Wall earned it.


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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#525 » by nuposse04 » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:48 pm

For those who say Wall's level of competition was sub-par...isn't it more telling if he DIDN'T dominate them? Good teams, and moreover, good players burn bad teams...right? So while I don't necessarily think beating bottom dwellers is an astounding thing...the fact he simply dominated them is a good sign...right?

Or would the stats say that even marginal players go off on bad teams...
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#526 » by nate33 » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:54 pm

Nivek wrote:John Wall -- Eastern Conference Player of the Week.

First Wizards player to win the honor since Antawn Jamison. In 2008.

Wall earned it.

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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#527 » by Nivek » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:00 pm

nuposse04 wrote:For those who say Wall's level of competition was sub-par...isn't it more telling if he DIDN'T dominate them? Good teams, and moreover, good players burn bad teams...right? So while I don't necessarily think beating bottom dwellers is an astounding thing...the fact he simply dominated them is a good sign...right?

Or would the stats say that even marginal players go off on bad teams...


The competition was bad, but he totally dominated. It's a good sign. Now he has to continue playing well, and he needs to play well against top-shelf competition.

Lots of guys have a good game or two. Not many guys sustain this kind of play for very long.
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Post#528 » by deneem4 » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:20 pm

hands11 wrote:Combine Randy and Wall post game comments.

Randy
He is practicingt the same place every time. He was shooting it to many different ways. Some leaning. Some fading. etc etc. Wall practicing every day. We are telling him to shoot it the same way every time. At this stage of the game, you aren't going to change a player stroke a lot but what you can do is get them to shoot it the same way each time. Larry Bird didn't have perfect form, but he shot it the same way every time.

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I was shooting on the way up. Sometimes on the way down. Now I release it at the same point which is at the top of my shot.

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Glad to see he is fixing these things. And as I commented before, it doesn't look like he is trying to jump as high. The shot looks very relaxed and smooth. And to me, it looks like he has pulled his left hand back so its no longer on top or in front of the ball. I guess if you aren't holding the ball while jumping so high, there really isn't a need to grip. Now he can cradle it and let it fly.


Beal must've been playn 2k while he was injured...n showed wall how he need to release....cuz tht how u gotta shoot with him in the game
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#529 » by tontoz » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:57 pm

It has been a rough year for John in a lot of ways. Winning the POTW award has to feel really good.

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Post#530 » by blazinskillz » Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:11 pm

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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#531 » by FAH1223 » Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:14 pm

deneem4 wrote:
Beal must've been playn 2k while he was injured...n showed wall how he need to release....cuz tht how u gotta shoot with him in the game


Yeah, Wall and Beal must be working together a lot. I can sense they have good chemistry and its exciting that they will be pushing each other in the offseason to get better and take pieces of each other's games to incorporate it into their own.
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Post#532 » by Ruzious » Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:34 pm

And the winner in the West is the near 50 year old LaMarcus Aldridge.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#533 » by TheKingOfVa360 » Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:35 pm

Nivek wrote:John Wall -- Eastern Conference Player of the Week.

First Wizards player to win the honor since Antawn Jamison. In 2008.

Wall earned it.


Well deserved, Wall is on the way to becoming a superstar if he plays even half as good as that.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#534 » by BruceO » Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:14 pm

hope that shot remains, pacing, not forcing and only taking whats given, moving the defense around and having the same shot will change everything for him. work this offseason with payton on defense, continue to understand how to run a team, retain the jumper should be his offseason goals. Once the fundamentals are solid now he can improve the mid range and add the three point..
on another note i swear either our team record or players performance drastically improves post all star
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#535 » by Halcyon » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:00 pm

I hope it makes him hungrier and work even harder. It's great to see him get some recognition though.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#536 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:11 pm

If the POTW award is worth anything, it helps serve as a bit of enforcement to Wall that hard work can payoff.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#537 » by miller31time » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:14 pm

CntOutSmrtCrazy wrote:If the POTW award is worth anything, it helps serve as a bit of enforcement to Wall that hard work can payoff.


Good point. I said the same thing about Bradley Beal winning the Eastern Conference Rookie of the Month award a while back. Even though Beal didn't deserve the award, I thought that the positive reinforcement was a good thing and would get him more comfortable on the floor.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#538 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:41 pm

tontoz wrote:It has been a rough year for John in a lot of ways. Winning the POTW award has to feel really good.

:clap:


Even before his last two great games of that week, as of 3/12 I made a mental note to stop criticizing Wall and to go easy on any Wall trades. This John Wall is a max contract player when that time comes.

Best of all, he's stepping up like a leader. I'm impressed with his command more than the numbers.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#539 » by Dark Faze » Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:01 pm

Wall is even starting to speak english better, slower, with more intelligent things to say.

It's a complete change.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#540 » by truwizfan4evr » Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:48 pm

The Washington Wizards are expected to offer John Wall a max contract extension, according to CSN Washington ...
You Shouldn't Play For Money, But You Should Play Because You Have A Passion For It -- Bradley Beal

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