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Re: Romero to work on delivery in minor-league game 

Post#21 » by SharoneWright » Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:55 am

suntzuballin wrote:i think if he isnt at par after a few starts hes should be in the bullpen as long inning reliver for bit take pressure off him and build his confidence back


I agree, his confidence is zilch. I immediately got very worried when he was interviewed and tried to lump himself in with JJ saying they had discussed it and they were the best 4/5 combo in the major leagues... followed by a self-conscious little laugh. Seemed to me, he was just trying to tie his name to any rotation spot at that point and was using JJ to bolster his cred. (yes, my mind works in strange ways... lol)
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Re: Romero to work on delivery in minor-league game 

Post#22 » by suntzuballin » Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:59 am

SharoneWright wrote:
suntzuballin wrote:i think if he isnt at par after a few starts hes should be in the bullpen as long inning reliver for bit take pressure off him and build his confidence back


I agree, his confidence is zilch. I immediately got very worried when he was interviewed and tried to lump himself in with JJ saying they had discussed it and they were the best 4/5 combo in the major leagues... followed by a self-conscious little laugh. Seemed to me, he was just trying to tie his name to any rotation spot at that point and was using JJ to bolster his cred. (yes, my mind works in strange ways... lol)

no good read on him i get like that too its from poker lol
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Re: Romero to work on delivery in minor-league game 

Post#23 » by Relentless88 » Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:38 am

soulchild_07 wrote:Not that results matter but from the minor league game today : "Romero got 7 outs against Pirates Class A hitters today, 5H, 4R, 5BB, 0K, 64 pitches, 29 strikes while giving up a two run HR"
Starting to sound like Cecil's situation last year...been saying all the right things until they DL him and have him on a minor league rehab stint to sort through it...maybe not, pure speculation on my part.

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Re: Romero to work on delivery in minor-league game 

Post#24 » by CrymeTime » Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:23 pm

They should move him all the way over to 3rd base side of the pitching rubber.

Most of his pitches are outside to the righties, so this should help move it closer.
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Re: Romero to work on delivery in minor-league game 

Post#25 » by dagger » Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:49 pm

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soulchild_07 wrote:Not that results matter but from the minor league game today : "Romero got 7 outs against Pirates Class A hitters today, 5H, 4R, 5BB, 0K, 64 pitches, 29 strikes while giving up a two run HR"
Starting to sound like Cecil's situation last year...been saying all the right things until they DL him and have him on a minor league rehab stint to sort through it...maybe not, pure speculation on my part.

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Re: Romero to work on delivery in minor-league game 

Post#26 » by Mehar » Sat Mar 23, 2013 3:03 am

hyper316 wrote:Wilner is a mouthpiece for Rogers. Arrogant guy that often put down callers with negative opinion on the Jays, rightly or wrongly.


You mean Mike Shillner. Whenever Shillner comes on do to the post-game show, i always turn the radio off instead of listening to him spewing his crap. Shillner is going at it on twitter with some of the fans today about Romero vs. Happ. Glad to read people laying into him on his thoughts about Happ. Happ deserves the rotation spot. Let Ricky work out his issues in Buffalo and not the major leagues. Every win in April or May is the same as a win in September. No need for the Jays to take their chances in hoping Romero works out his problems in the big leagues.
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Re: Romero to work on delivery in minor-league game 

Post#27 » by Skin Blues » Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:12 am

soulchild_07 wrote:Not that results matter but from the minor league game today : "Romero got 7 outs against Pirates Class A hitters today, 5H, 4R, 5BB, 0K, 64 pitches, 29 strikes while giving up a two run HR"
Starting to sound like Cecil's situation last year...been saying all the right things until they DL him and have him on a minor league rehab stint to sort through it...maybe not, pure speculation on my part.

wow, that's ugly. Was he throwing right handed? If not, maybe he should start trying...
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Re: Romero to work on delivery in minor-league game 

Post#28 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:44 am

Fenris-77 wrote:I actually like Wilner, sort of, but he is a gigantic douche sometimes with the condescension that drips from his mike. Meh.

Makes for good radio at times. It's far better to have him than the common moron on that radio station that has no clue about the Jays whatsoever.
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Re: Romero to work on delivery in minor-league game 

Post#29 » by The_Hater » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:42 pm

There's no way that that can start the season with Romero in the rotation now, I have no desire to watch Josh Towers part deux as the Jays throw away a handful of early season wins. Send him down to start the season and see if he can get both his physical and his mental ironed out.
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Re: Romero to work on delivery in minor-league game 

Post#30 » by RalphWiggum » Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:10 pm

The_Hater wrote:There's no way that that can start the season with Romero in the rotation now, I have no desire to watch Josh Towers part deux as the Jays throw away a handful of early season wins. Send him down to start the season and see if he can get both his physical and his mental ironed out.

Totally agree. If he starts the season he will almost surely be given 3-4 starts regardless of how bad he is pitching unless he is just god awful in the first two starts (like 5-6 earned runs over 3-4 innings in those starts) in which case I'm sure they'd pull the plug earlier. Those 2-3 losses could easily be the difference between making the playoffs and just falling short. The way Happ has looked this spring it would be indefensible to to put Romero out there with the way he is throwing. If he was a little better and Happ was a little worse you can maybe make a case to give him a shot.

As it stands now the Jays would basically be throwing away potential wins in a season where they finally have a real chance to make the playoffs. This team doesn't need the negativity that will come with Romero getting rocked, a good start is essential to take the pressure off a little because we all know the pressure to win is going to be off the charts this year. The Jays don't need any controversies to start the season, send him down and see where he is in a month.
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Re: Romero to work on delivery in minor-league game 

Post#31 » by satyr9 » Sun Mar 24, 2013 2:21 pm

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soulchild_07 wrote:Not that results matter but from the minor league game today : "Romero got 7 outs against Pirates Class A hitters today, 5H, 4R, 5BB, 0K, 64 pitches, 29 strikes while giving up a two run HR"
Starting to sound like Cecil's situation last year...been saying all the right things until they DL him and have him on a minor league rehab stint to sort through it...maybe not, pure speculation on my part.

wow, that's ugly. Was he throwing right handed? If not, maybe he should start trying...


Well, I think the whole point of going down, even in ST, is to take any pressure off about trying to throw with old broken mechanics to get a fastball over when you need it. This way he's still trying to fix himself and isn't there yet, even when he's 3 balls and it hurts him in the stat line, but I actually take a little encouragement - not much since I didn't see it - that he stayed on message and focused and just doesn't have it right yet.

That may not be the case at all, but I'm not at all afraid of really terrible outings 'cause it means something fairly major is being rebuilt, which has felt necessary for quite a while. Whether they can fix him remains to be seen. I tend to think that the persistent knee issues may be something he never overcomes, but by all reports, the way he's been going he wasn't going to magically find "it" and now they're going to break him down and put him back together as best they can. That kind of effort should have some really ridiculous outing at the start, otherwise it wouldn't require such drastic measures, so think of it as a good first step forward rather than another backwards one. /glasshalffull
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Re: Romero to work on delivery in minor-league game 

Post#32 » by LittleOzzy » Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:14 pm

WHAT WILL THE CLUB DO WITH ROMERO?

So what do the Jays do about Romero?

TSN.ca's Scott MacArthur has been following the Jays all season and thinks Romero might need time to sort himself out.

He writes: "In the new Blue Jays' rotation, Romero doesn't have to be the guy who won 15 games and had a 2.92 ERA in 2011. Good thing, too, because he appears to be a shell of his former self.

I think the best thing for the organization and for Romero is to start him at Triple-A. He's owed at least $23.1-million over the remainder of his contract so the Blue Jays have to get this right. These "minor tweaks" to Romero's delivery provide the perfect excuse for the demotion, allowing both club and player to save face.

Heck, shorten his final spring start and whisper about Romero being bothered by the tendinitis in his knees. There are ways to publicly protect everyone involved.

The key for Romero is to effectively throw his power sinker -- he must throw it more often and he must keep it down in the zone.

The investment in Romero - a former first round pick, his development, his contract - is deep. J.A. Happ is a capable fifth starter and has had a good spring. He'd do the job just fine.

Romero may not see it this way but the best thing for him is to refine his delivery and clear his head away from the fishbowl Toronto's become for him. On potential alone he's got plenty left in the tank. This needs to be handled delicately but also correctly. Starting the season in Buffalo is the correct move.”

What do you think?


http://www.tsn.ca/mlb/story/?id=419066

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