Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edition)

HeartAndHustle · Post #1281 » by **HeartAndHustle** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:41 pm

mattyBoi wrote:Jameer will be the first jersey we ever retire.

BadMofoPimp · Post #1282 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:46 pm

Why not sign John Wall to a one year offer sheet so that Washington has to match and he becomes an unrestricted free agent the following year.

KingRobb02 · Post #1283 » by **KingRobb02** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:51 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:Why not sign John Wall to a one year offer sheet so that Washington has to match and he becomes an unrestricted free agent the following year.

Because Wall would never sign a 1 year deal. He wants the Max, not to just leave DC.

tiderulz · Post #1284 » by **tiderulz** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:13 pm

KingRobb02 wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:Why not sign John Wall to a one year offer sheet so that Washington has to match and he becomes an unrestricted free agent the following year.

Because Wall would never sign a 1 year deal. He wants the Max, not to just leave DC.

this.

Post #1285 » by **UCFJayBird** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:17 pm

KingRobb02 wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:Why not sign John Wall to a one year offer sheet so that Washington has to match and he becomes an unrestricted free agent the following year.

Because Wall would never sign a 1 year deal. He wants the Max, not to just leave DC.

A player will never risk a career ending injury that could cost him millions of dollars (and in Wall's case, a hundred million) just to get out of a city. There are other ways to leave if that's the way he really wants to go.

BadMofoPimp · Post #1286 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:01 pm

I got a Picture at home of Noel in a Magic uniform on the Bench with Ice on his knees and his head in his hands with the notes that states 132 games missed over 2 seasons. The caption says "Devos sells to Seattle Investment Group!"

G-Heel · Post #1287 » by **G-Heel** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:06 pm

mattyBoi wrote:
Cigamodnalro wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOhRqExIw9U[/youtube]

Jameer will be the first jersey we ever retire.

Jeez I hope not. We shouldn't retire a jersey just because.

KingRobb02 · Post #1288 » by **KingRobb02** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:07 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:I got a Picture at home of Noel in a Magic uniform on the Bench with Ice on his knees and his head in his hands with the notes that states 132 games missed over 2 seasons. The caption says "Devos sells to Seattle Investment Group!"

That would be so realistic if a 4 million dollar per year player bankrupted the DeVos family.

BadMofoPimp · Post #1289 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:19 pm

KingRobb02 wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:I got a Picture at home of Noel in a Magic uniform on the Bench with Ice on his knees and his head in his hands with the notes that states 132 games missed over 2 seasons. The caption says "Devos sells to Seattle Investment Group!"

That would be so realistic if a 4 million dollar per year player bankrupted the DeVos family.

The realistic part is the Magic became perrenial losers that lost too many fans and Devos got out while the movin was good.

MoMM · Post #1290 » by **MoMM** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:55 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:The realistic part is the Magic became perrenial losers that lost too many fans and Devos got out while the movin was good.

Maybe Amway was defined as a Ponzi scheme in this dream

Orlando Prodigy · Post #1291 » by **Orlando Prodigy** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:08 pm

For you doctors out there who hate on Nerlens and can predict his injury history,

Cigamodnalro · Post #1292 » by **Cigamodnalro** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:11 pm

http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2013/03/28 ... week-21/2/

Orlando Prodigy · Post #1293 » by **Orlando Prodigy** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:35 pm

Last ones just for fun...

Post #1294 » by **Bensational** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:49 pm

i always forget this one, but is it possible for players to sign an extension with a player option after 1 year? could Orlando offer Wall a max 4 year deal with player option after 1 year, so if Washington matches he walks after a year, and for his protection he's got a a long term deal if he's injured within that year?

rcklsscognition · Post #1295 » by **rcklsscognition** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:00 am

Bensational wrote:i always forget this one, but is it possible for players to sign an extension with a player option after 1 year? could Orlando offer Wall a max 4 year deal with player option after 1 year, so if Washington matches he walks after a year, and for his protection he's got a a long term deal if he's injured within that year?

I guess what you're saying is at that point, after year 1, he'd be able to get a new contract if he wasn't injured? Because if he was to go to a new team, he'd have to get rid of the last 3 years of the contract. If he was injured, he'd just stay on the Wizards for the next few years?

There's nothing in the books that says that's not possible as far as I can tell. But why would the Magic do it? Just to make him a free agent the next year?

Post #1296 » by **Bensational** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:59 am

rcklsscognition wrote:
Bensational wrote:i always forget this one, but is it possible for players to sign an extension with a player option after 1 year? could Orlando offer Wall a max 4 year deal with player option after 1 year, so if Washington matches he walks after a year, and for his protection he's got a a long term deal if he's injured within that year?

I guess what you're saying is at that point, after year 1, he'd be able to get a new contract if he wasn't injured? Because if he was to go to a new team, he'd have to get rid of the last 3 years of the contract. If he was injured, he'd just stay on the Wizards for the next few years?

There's nothing in the books that says that's not possible as far as I can tell. But why would the Magic do it? Just to make him a free agent the next year?

exactly. takes the incentive out of Washington matching. they figure "well, damn, he's got an opt out after 1 year anyway... we can match, but he'll most likely leave after a year. so we can match and try and trade him before the all star break, or we can negotiate a s&t now with the Magic".

it's the best of all worlds. Wall doesn't have to take a QO for a lesser amount, so he still gets paid, still gets the insurance of a big, long term deal, and has the freedom to get out and go to another team after that 1 year period.

tiderulz · Post #1297 » by **tiderulz** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:17 am

Bensational wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:
Bensational wrote:i always forget this one, but is it possible for players to sign an extension with a player option after 1 year? could Orlando offer Wall a max 4 year deal with player option after 1 year, so if Washington matches he walks after a year, and for his protection he's got a a long term deal if he's injured within that year?

I guess what you're saying is at that point, after year 1, he'd be able to get a new contract if he wasn't injured? Because if he was to go to a new team, he'd have to get rid of the last 3 years of the contract. If he was injured, he'd just stay on the Wizards for the next few years?

There's nothing in the books that says that's not possible as far as I can tell. But why would the Magic do it? Just to make him a free agent the next year?

exactly. takes the incentive out of Washington matching. they figure "well, damn, he's got an opt out after 1 year anyway... we can match, but he'll most likely leave after a year. so we can match and try and trade him before the all star break, or we can negotiate a s&t now with the Magic".

it's the best of all worlds. Wall doesn't have to take a QO for a lesser amount, so he still gets paid, still gets the insurance of a big, long term deal, and has the freedom to get out and go to another team after that 1 year period.

not sold on paying Wall max money just for a short good run right now. he hasnt blown the world up the past 3 years so far. Good numbers, but not max money numbers.

Cigamodnalro · Post #1298 » by **Cigamodnalro** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:53 am

tiderulz wrote:not sold on paying Wall max money just for a short good run right now. he hasnt blown the world up the past 3 years so far. Good numbers, but not max money numbers.

Which potential 2015 FAs do you like?

rcklsscognition · Post #1299 » by **rcklsscognition** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:51 am

Cigamodnalro wrote:
tiderulz wrote:not sold on paying Wall max money just for a short good run right now. he hasnt blown the world up the past 3 years so far. Good numbers, but not max money numbers.

Which potential 2015 FAs do you like?

I see Jameer Nelson and Ish Smith will be available.

WallabyPie · Post #1300 » by **WallabyPie** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:58 am

Bensational wrote:i always forget this one, but is it possible for players to sign an extension with a player option after 1 year? could Orlando offer Wall a max 4 year deal with player option after 1 year, so if Washington matches he walks after a year, and for his protection he's got a a long term deal if he's injured within that year?

Not possible. There can be only one option year per contract.